V6 Discussion and questions about the base carbureted or MPFI V6's and the rare SFI Turbo V6.

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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 08:51 PM
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new gm owner here

ive never really messed with gms so im going out of my comfort zone with a third gen firebird with a 2.8l im not a huge v8 fan (i own an S4 myself) i would like to stay classy with a v6 but im not sure where to start with this one i originally wanted a grand national swap but im finding those few and far between i need a 5 speed and i was reading about a 5 speed in the 5.0 birds but would that bolt up to my 2.8 also iam definatley adding a turbo and was wondering what i was looking forward to as far as an engine build
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 09:17 PM
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Car: 89 RS 89 iroc 87 firebird
Engine: 3.1 Turbo/ 355 twin turbo
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Re: new gm owner here

what year 2.8?

u can do a turbo system for around 800 bucks to start , if u want big power u will spend around 1200

can u weld and do ur own fab work?
what condition is the engine in now ?
btw a 5 speed behind a turbo v6 will require an exspensive clutch to take the power even at low boost
cclutch will run around 250-400 bucks depending on how much power u want
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 09:20 PM
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Re: new gm owner here

its a 82 i want to run under 10 psi the engine runs i wouldnt say it runs well but theres no problems it just has a little mileage on it i can weld and all would the stock automatic trans be able to handle it and could i bolt up a 5 speed
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 09:22 PM
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Car: 89 RS 89 iroc 87 firebird
Engine: 3.1 Turbo/ 355 twin turbo
Transmission: a4 w/ 4500 stall/ a4 / t5
Axle/Gears: strange s60 /w 3:42's
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dont do a turbo system on that car , that has the carbed engine which has crappy small valve heads and small crank journals. those engines are known to break the small cranks even bone stock

wat u would want to do is get a 3.1 or 3.4 engine , and swap in the ecm from a 90-92 car , and then turbocharge that
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 09:23 PM
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Car: 89 RS 89 iroc 87 firebird
Engine: 3.1 Turbo/ 355 twin turbo
Transmission: a4 w/ 4500 stall/ a4 / t5
Axle/Gears: strange s60 /w 3:42's
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that car doesnt have a the 4 pseed auto does it?
i belive the early cars had 3 speed auto th250c or th300 or something similar those transmissions will not hold up
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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Re: new gm owner here

word. thanks
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 04:58 AM
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Re: new gm owner here

Originally Posted by project89
dont do a turbo system on that car , that has the carbed engine which has crappy small valve heads and small crank journals. those engines are known to break the small cranks even bone stock

wat u would want to do is get a 3.1 or 3.4 engine , and swap in the ecm from a 90-92 car , and then turbocharge that
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 07:47 AM
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Car: 1987 T/A WS6 T-Tops/92 RS
Engine: LB9/3.1
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Welcome to the site and listen to what Porject 89 and fasteddi say-they know their stuff very well. They are right the 82 should have the 3-speed auto in it and it's not very good at all. I take it you have a 82 Sport Coupe? got any pix?
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 11:35 PM
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Re: new gm owner here

If you're looking for a 5-speed get one out of a 3rd or 4th gen V6 car and it should bolt up. Crossmember may be different but you can use one from a 5-speed 3rd gen. I'm not sure if the driveshaft will work from a 3-speed, but any 700r4/4L60E or 5/6-speed 3rd or 4th gen driveshaft should work; best to get an aluminum one since they're usually pretty cheap anyway.

A V8 5-speed is more-or-less the same transmission with IIRC different gearing but you would need a V6 bellhousing anyway because it's different.

I put a 6-speed behind my V6 but it's probably the most expensive transmission option.
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Old Mar 7, 2013 | 11:40 PM
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if u want to do a turbo down the road get a 4 speed auto or swap in a th350
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