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Old 09-06-2016, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ktthecarguy View Post
The car runs, but takes a while to start first time when cold. After that, it runs ok, but gets horrible mileage. Might be unrelated though.


Right now at the shop, just waiting for a call back.
Hi, I just wondered what they checked before putting a new ecm in it, like thats the very last thing id do ! Unless I had one sitting here to try . Using too much fuel id say the pumps prob ok .
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Hi zs&tas,
They checked the ECM, and said it is okay. And the fuel pump circuit is turning on. And the pump is priming. Getting 40PSI at the fuel rail when running, 45PSI when primed.


they are resetting the codes, then testing again. Gotta wait until morning.
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Hi zs&tas,
They checked the ECM, and said it is okay. And the fuel pump circuit is turning on. And the pump is priming. Getting 40PSI at the fuel rail when running, 45PSI when primed.


they are resetting the codes, then testing again. Gotta wait until morning.
Sounds like everythings good but its throwing a code. The oil pressure switch needs to be checked too, other than that a bad conection somewhere ? If it wasnt throwing that code id be looking at other stuff for the horrid millage .
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I think one big culprit is the exhaust. The other day I found the down pipe loose, about 1/2 inch gap between the exhaust manifold and the down pipe. Big air leak, possibly throwing off the O2 sensor readout. Loud too.
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Well, ECM and fuel pump tested out great. New code is 14 (I think) O2 sensor error. So I need to fix the exhaust downpipe. One side is loose with a BIG air gap, the other side is held together with a muffler clamp. Yes, a muffler clamp! Will I ever be done fixing all the sh*tty half-azzed "fixes" this kid did?


Still working on the front suspension and steering. It's all worn out, so I am replacing it all. Took me one month to do one front control arm. Hopefully the other one goes faster!
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helicoiled all the rocker stud holes in the 3400 heads , hopefully ill get the car back together soon
finally got the motor together yesterday , and instead of taking i easy on the car for a few days to make sure no isues , took it on a 300 mile drive

only issue that has poped up is i have a missfire at idle , but i belive its just the egr leaking so ill look into that today


turbo goes on after i find out whats causing the missfire , the missfire is only there below 900 rpms
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I did something less positive with my v6 today. Found a damn gasket spraying coolant I think. Not the water pump, but behind that I assume is the timing cover? It's spraying between the block and the timing cover. FML
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well i found out its nly missfiring once the engine gets hot ( normal op temp ) which seems odd to me , maybe a failing coil pack? or would it be the coil pack base plate which is also the moudle iirc
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well i found out its nly missfiring once the engine gets hot ( normal op temp ) which seems odd to me , maybe a failing coil pack? or would it be the coil pack base plate which is also the moudle iirc
Yea the base is the Icm on that dis set up. Could be that. Although I've never had a flacky one like I've had many times on the old dizzy set up on our cars stock.
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Yes, a muffler clamp! Will I ever be done fixing all the sh*tty half-azzed "fixes" this kid did?

haha, i know that feeling ! keep at it mate

ive got the firebird pop up light issue, factory grease poo pooed, doing the rubber hose inside the gear fix. so far so good, one side done...... fitting new bulbs while im there too, i would do headlights but its all money aint it... it never stops !
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Well last week my heater valve went out after only a year and a half so i went and bought another. took my car from memphis to mid illinois and back and next morning heater valve was leaking so i went and exchanged it and bought new heater hose and replaced the 3 hoses attached to it. After this i started the car to a horrible squeel, and thought...crap it's the barrings in the water pump i just replaced in Jan. FML !..... but then i noticed that all of the pullies were filthy and hit them with a wire wheel and no more squeek....So thankful, but am loosing my voice from cussing so much....Overall....productive day.
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Well last week my heater valve went out after only a year and a half so i went and bought another. took my car from memphis to mid illinois and back and next morning heater valve was leaking so i went and exchanged it and bought new heater hose and replaced the 3 hoses attached to it. After this i started the car to a horrible squeel, and thought...crap it's the barrings in the water pump i just replaced in Jan. FML !..... but then i noticed that all of the pullies were filthy and hit them with a wire wheel and no more squeek....So thankful, but am loosing my voice from cussing so much....Overall....productive day.
Sounds like me when I was trying to pull my harmonic balancer off to fix the gasket behind my timing chain cover. Went through all cuss words and probably even came up with some new ones.
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trying to figure out were the water in my oil is comming from , took the rossover pipe off and its all comming from the rear head , so now i need to pull the head and see why. i.e bad gasket , cracked or warpped head , or cracked block

what im going to do since it fills the cyl with water when the engine is off and the cooling system is presurized is. first get the motor warm so theres presure in the cooling system , then give it time to fill the cyl before draining the radiator , then ill quickly get it torn down so i can get the rear head off and see which cyl is full of water to narrow down the area of the gasket and which cyl i need to inspect
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trying to figure out were the water in my oil is comming from , took the rossover pipe off and its all comming from the rear head , so now i need to pull the head and see why. i.e bad gasket , cracked or warpped head , or cracked block

what im going to do since it fills the cyl with water when the engine is off and the cooling system is presurized is. first get the motor warm so theres presure in the cooling system , then give it time to fill the cyl before draining the radiator , then ill quickly get it torn down so i can get the rear head off and see which cyl is full of water to narrow down the area of the gasket and which cyl i need to inspect
Going to take a guess on that as a bad gasket... Just a guess.
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Going to take a guess on that as a bad gasket... Just a guess.
brand new gaskets , thinking the head is warpped as i didnt check it before i put it on this time , the first time i checked it it was a lil out but it sealed, i had to pull the head the 2nd time to fix a rocker stud that had pulled out .

instead of just repairing the one on the motor i decided to pull the head and do all 6 studs with helicoils

probably would have been better off just helicoiling the one stud without removing the head
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So yeah getting mad because my belt stared squeeling again while i am sitting at a light i hear a clunk and the squeeling stops. So a block later i pull up to her work and pop the hood to this. Thhis car just doesn't stop breaking.
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So yeah getting mad because my belt stared squeeling again while i am sitting at a light i hear a clunk and the squeeling stops. So a block later i pull up to her work and pop the hood to this. Thhis car just doesn't stop breaking.
Holy ****!
First thing I'd do if I were you, replace the bracket and replace all of those bolts in the front end including timing chain cover bolts, waterpump bolts, etc with all new ones and torque to proper spec with some anti-seize or oil. whichever you prefer.



That broken head may have been the reason it did that. Could be wrong as I am in no means a master.

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Primed the rear quarters and roof #gettingthere
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Yes i agree that may have caused it but the funny part as you can see i have just replaced the waterpump, timing cover and all bolts those were new lol....good thing i have spares, and good parts guys!!


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Holy ****!
First thing I'd do if I were you, replace the bracket and replace all of those bolts in the front end including timing chain cover bolts, waterpump bolts, etc with all new ones and torque to proper spec with some anti-seize or oil. whichever you prefer.



That broken head may have been the reason it did that. Could be wrong as I am in no means a master.
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trying to figure out were the water in my oil is comming from , took the rossover pipe off and its all comming from the rear head , so now i need to pull the head and see why. i.e bad gasket , cracked or warpped head , or cracked block

what im going to do since it fills the cyl with water when the engine is off and the cooling system is presurized is. first get the motor warm so theres presure in the cooling system , then give it time to fill the cyl before draining the radiator , then ill quickly get it torn down so i can get the rear head off and see which cyl is full of water to narrow down the area of the gasket and which cyl i need to inspect

Also it may be visibly obvious if one of the combustion chambers is cleaner then other from being steam cleaned or one of the runner/s is cleaner then the others.
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Also it may be visibly obvious if one of the combustion chambers is cleaner then other from being steam cleaned or one of the runner/s is cleaner then the others.

center rear cyl , head was warped .016, i shoulda checked the head before bolting it back on, piston is nice and clean now i gota take the time to clean the other 5 before i put it back together , which also means having to spend the time to port another set of heads , since i cant get the current heads cut due to lack of machine shops
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i got lucky and was able to pull a favor at one of the old machine shops in the next town over, they only work on diesel stuff now but they cut the heads for me .

just waiting on gaskets and headbolts to come in so i can reassemble it
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I finally got my ptc converter from lane in the mail yesterday. I'm beyond excited to see how this converter responds. It's a nissian core billet 9.5 inch converter. Custom to my engine and specs. Hopefully right arround 4500-5000rpm stall. I never thought I'd have a 1k dollar custom converter but they are the best in the business and their name speaks for themselfs.

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Another close call as i was stopping right pass front brake line popped and no brakes...fixed it. Now i just have to fix the drivers door from sagging. Bottom pin needs replaced.
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It was slow @ work so I pulled in the camaro
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I looked at her and asked why she's still playing the "Won't Start" game
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Finished the waterpump install. added coolant. noticed it look like someone went dookie after letting the car run a few minutes. use rag to absorb mystery car dookie. let the car run without rad cap off while i went in to pee. watched old faithful go off about the time i got back to the car. shut car off. tried straightening hood while engine cooled. broke the body hammer. shut hood and went inside.
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Finally have the bird back on the road today. Replaced the trans mount with an ES poly, and replaced the output shaft seal.I'll post a pic of the new mount tomorrow. Now i have no stress.
Before the new ES Trans mount and output seal



Also Noticed this which i will be doing next...smh



Lifed the car up with a chain hoist...Don't try this at home!



Set my stands and lowered car



How my mount was



Totally shot!

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So i was back under the car again today and replaced the rear sway bar end links with ES links to match the front tie rod ends and the trans mount.....slowly pice by pice it's getting new Es suspention. The both were fused so bad they broke off and was still a pita to get off.
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At it again! Today i took my drivers door off and repaired the uper and lower hinge pins. No more saggy door!
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Think winters getting over, weather was alright, fitted some trim, new rear view mirror (shut the door once and it smashed onto the gear stick)
Checked t top rubber and cleaned up a bit. Goes for a test tmrw so fingers crossed, not been running two months not been driven 4 years..........
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Shes being let free........
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Shes being let free........

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WOOHOO!
yeah ! Drove her to the test and the long way back, drove alright with old dirty fuel. It failed, im working on her now , nothing too major though. Bits of steering link and stuff, ive got all the parts just spending the money to get her legal on road first then in a few months ill put her in for a front end overhaul.
This car drives completely different to my 92 auto. Its so light it bounces down the road and with the ridiculously obnoxious exhaust everyone jumps outa the way , kinda of like driving a wasp !
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New idler arm fiitted, tough getting old one off. Rear brakes checked, cleaned and free'd up, new indicator relay to be wired up.
need a set of plastic wheel nut covers, expensive here though. Can anyone post a set from a scrapie to the uk ?

Also noticied some slight rear wheel movement horizontally in and out of axle. How much is normal ? Acceptable ?
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Retested today and passed , all legal and on the road ! Pretty cool drive home , found a crown vic police car cruising down the road - rare in the uk , hung with him for a bit.
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So i am at it again....replaced the drivers door handle about a month or so ago...go to get in it today and door won't open. So i go to the other side unlock and try to open from inside and the damn handle snapped.....this car really knows how to throw a fit....and that's why i call her Christine. What a b*tch.....
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Christine lol that sucks man. I drove mine to work today then filled up just outside work and only one light would come up. Poop. Something else to look at .......
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Been driving her around, the suspensions loosening up a bit now, still got a lean we cant work out but whatever .
checked the timing today, dam thing was at 4 , got it at nr 11 on the side of ten though. Drives much smoother and more responsive.
Well when i first got her she wouldnt rev past 4200rpm and she now goes up to 5200rpm which im happy with , progress ! ive gradually managed to get higher and higher over the years.
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Fixed headlight issues, took off the duke style Dixie horns as they arnt working.
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Drove it to work, much smoother and quieter on new timing.
Really need to give the brakes attention they are BAD.
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Ok, drove to school to pick up my kid and outside it was not idling right and sound like it was struggling missing, then drove 30 mile round trip with me paronoid but it seems to have cleared. Idled fine out side my house, best check codes ? No idea what was going on lol
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Code 34. Maf or ecm connection issue, pretty sure its the maf as I've moved it a little and the cable needs sitting nicer.
Took my lad to the American diner, guess you guys just call it a diner lol.
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Maf conector is a bit greened up, ive got contact cleaner on it, been looking at fitting some lights underneath just in front of the skirt, like gumbys. Really cant see they are even there until you walk away from the car, think theyl look awesome, ill post pics when im done. Also i have a nicier plate on the car now

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Worked on mine for a short while the other day. Got the accesories on there, nitrous stuff, radiator and hose, and braided trans lines. Hopefully within a few hrs i can start it up and break in the new engine.

Then i just have all the wiring inside, and the swing outs on the cage to finish up.




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Code 34. Maf or ecm connection issue, pretty sure its the maf as I've moved it a little and the cable needs sitting nicer.
Took my lad to the American diner, guess you guys just call it a diner lol.


lol yeah, and in China, they just call it "food". That's a cute diner. Good going, take your boy everywhere, and he will grow up to be a gearhead. And have nice memories of the two of you together! Win-win.
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