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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 04:36 PM
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Can focus boy beat me

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there is a guy that works with me that has a 2001 ford focus that has a muffler and a reactive air filter on his car and no other mods.it is a five speed. he thinks he can beat my1992 camaro rs 3.1 v6 automatic. my mods are a 3:73 rear end,k&n air filter,flowmaster exhuast,pulleys,jet stage 2 chip,shift kit, crane ignition. his best time after running 11 times is a 16.2. do you think i can take him.
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 07:08 PM
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You will kill him i raced one they are slow and ugly. Have you seen pontiacs version of the focus i cant remeber what its called
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 07:25 PM
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You will kill him i raced one they are slow and ugly. Have you seen pontiacs version of the focus i cant remeber what its called
My big toe is prettier than those cars ! They look like a turd on wheels !
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 07:32 PM
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The pontiac version is the Vibe. Kind of weird if you ask me!
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 08:44 PM
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Its an unbelieveably disgusting car, why did they make em?
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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Hey 85sportcoupto89rs , how is the work on the car coming ?
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Old Feb 26, 2002 | 08:52 PM
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The Vibe is a Toyota Matrix it a POS if you ask me, Pontiac gave up the firebird for a POS ***** s.h.i.t.
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 12:16 AM
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The Firebird will once again return! :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 09:21 AM
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the focus is made by ford and the vibe is made by pontiac so how can it be the pontiac verison?
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 09:37 AM
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Hey redrs.....did you notice a pretty big difference when you went to the 3:73 rearend? i'm thinking of doing that myself.....
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 11:33 AM
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by Bluerocket
the focus is made by ford and the vibe is made by pontiac so how can it be the pontiac verison?
I think he meant , its competitor . ..like camaro/mustang .
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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hey guys im racing him saturday night about 10. he thinks he can beat me so we are going for it and he wont shut up about it because he thinks his car can so i will tell you the news on who wins or loses
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 07:43 PM
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You're gonna lose. Don't put any money on it. Sorry to break it to you, but if he's pulled a 16.2, you're dead. You're probably sittin at a 16.7 or 16.8 right now....if that.
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 08:06 PM
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hmmmmmm i dont know

the other nite comming home, me and my friend time my 0-60

my best time was 10 seconds flat with me and another lite kid in the car

this time was 9.5 seconds with me, Big Rob (250 lbs.) and Paul (200 lbs.) PLUS my toolbox (50 lbs.)

so thats 500 extra pounds of weight

and my mods got me down to 9.5 from 10

so its probably more like a 8.5-9 second 0-60 in reality

soooooooo................run lite!!!!!! and with your mods you MIGHT have a chance
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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freakin'. . . .ford focus's look like someone took a crap, formed the poop with their bare hands, made it into a car, and called it the ford focus.

Are you guys serious?? Could this POS really beat you? Could it in any stock 3rd gen? Next pay check. . . . NOS.
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by JMBoriss
freakin'. . . .ford focus's look like someone took a crap, formed the poop with their bare hands, made it into a car, and called it the ford focus.

Are you guys serious?? Could this POS really beat you? Could it in any stock 3rd gen? Next pay check. . . . NOS.
I don't know , but that car is too damn ugly for me to pull next to it !
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Old Feb 27, 2002 | 10:12 PM
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Originally posted by WaynesRS


I don't know , but that car is too damn ugly for me to pull next to it !
Haha. Oh crap that's funny.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 12:20 AM
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I say he got nuthin on you. Hes gonna be wishin he bought a GM, ha hes drivin a ford POS!! NO worries, the only thing is he may have an advantage on the hole shot, but def wont beat u. Hes drivin an economical car. Good luck!!!

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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No...I'm telling you, you're going to lose. No offense. The focus has anywhere from 110-170 HP depending upon the engine. Most have the 130HP engine, only 10 shy of what yours came with stock. On top of that, it's a fresh engine, the car's lighter, has FWD so traction's not a huge problem, and he has a 5 speed.

IF you're not makind up the 16.2, I have no doubt in my mind, he's going to take you unless he misses a shift.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:31 AM
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Okay,

First run with as little gas in the car as you can.

Over inflate the front tires and lower the PSI in the rear

Adjust hte TV cable before you do it

Remove all floor mats from the car and stereo crap including CD's

Run in D not OD and Drop it at about 2000RPM or as high as you can hold it without moving.

Change your oil that day, I am serious

Drain you washer fluid

Clean your plenum


Then you might really win...
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:56 AM
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ok his car has 130hp when he went to baytown it was at sea level and it was cold that night thats why he ran a 16.2. when he got there his first run was a 17 tell me how the hell this car is going to beat me because i dont think he can because i have more power and torque then his. he is only pushing about 110 at the wheels.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 01:12 PM
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I think I'm with Overclock on this one... it's a lightweight little tin-can with thin little tires (less road friction than yours) and a decent motor. Plus, who knows what kind of gears are in that thing! His "rear gear equivilant" could be a 4.15, compared to your 3.08! Yeah you might spank him in a race for top speed, but he might be 200 feet further than you in the 1/4 mile when the green drops.

Of course, make sure you rub this in his face if he wins. Plus, like you said, his car looks foul.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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NEW engine vs. Tired engine....gee I wonder.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 01:41 PM
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I can only say that mine has beat a focus, and a sunfire was a real close one. Not sure who won that one was so close...
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 02:16 PM
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Camaro_hunter_d what are your mods on the v6 and how bad did you beat the focus because i think i can beat him. this is all bull**** untill i race him beacause some people think i will win and some people think i will loose. i was supposed to race him this weekend but it is going to rain and it is kind of pointless racing him because all i will be doing is donuts at the start.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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TomP this focus does not have little tires.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 02:26 PM
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TomP my dose not have a 3.08 in it anymore it has a 3.73 in it now
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by redRS92
i was supposed to race him this weekend but it is going to rain and it is kind of pointless racing him because all i will be doing is donuts at the start.
No offense, but if you can't control a car in a straight line in the rain anyways I don't have a very high opinion of your driving abilities. I do know that our cars have traction problems. Hell, my 92 would break loose at 45MPH if I punched it and the roads were slick, and this was with 235/60's on it. From a stop, I was able to spin all the way into OD, but I kept it in a straight line the entire time.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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tell me how the hell this car is going to beat me because i dont think he can because i have more power and torque then his. he is only pushing about 110 at the wheels.
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then damn you must really be able to kick my ***

stock for me is 146hp@7000rpms/138lbs/ft@3800 rpms
and stock for me could get me high 15 's
so that prolly puts you at what, mid to low 15's then

just b/c you have more power and torque means ****. he drives a little light car. he has more gear then you. he does NOT need to have the power you need to move your car.
think about this
under 300hp will get my car into the 12's will it do that to your car?
it is all in the weight and the gearing


I fully agree with o'clock on this one
your motor is old, and prolly has seen better days. he has quite a few things on you

race and have fun. but dont put money on it unless he will miss a shift
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 04:44 PM
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Camaro_hunter_d what are your mods on the v6 and how bad did you beat the focus because i think i can beat him. this is all bull**** untill i race him beacause some people think i will win and some people think i will loose. i was supposed to race him this weekend but it is going to rain and it is kind of pointless racing him because all i will be doing is donuts at the start.
At that time I have the ported/polished intake, K&N and smaller Diam tires. I also had a brand new clutch.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 04:46 PM
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NO worries, the only thing is he may have an advantage on the hole shot, but def wont beat u. Hes drivin an economical car. Good luck!!!

DJ
would like to see you race a integra GS-R
it is kinda like an econobox. or maybe even a civic si.
looks like quite a few econobox cars are doing better then the times I see listed here

now dont get me wrong I am not saying a V6 car sux, but just cause you drive a camaro/firebird with more power then some of these guys doesn't mean you are going to kick everyones ***
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 08:00 PM
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I gotta say its a coin flip. Anyone can have a good or bad race.
And as for the guy who races in the rain hope your insurance is paid up
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 08:29 PM
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I didn't say that I race in the rain, nor am I endorsing stupid activities like that. I just said that if he can't keep his car in a straight line in the rain, that's pretty sad.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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Ford Focus is not going to be made anymore.
Slow sales.
It can really be possibly that quick?
That Vibe thing is just a different Aztek POS ugly thing.
Thank G0D Bob Lutz is at GM now.
Hopefully we will see the return of the Camaro/Firebird, GTO, Chevelle, El Camino, Buick GS-GN-GNX
I'll bet that Focus has a real poor shifter. Ford shifters were NEVER good feeling. Nor clutch pedal feel.
I wonder what Graeme would say about that statement?
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 10:54 PM
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You know, I never see Graeme or Kyle F anymore. Does anyone know what happened to them? I know Graeme got a different car, can't remember if it was a nova or a maverick and kyle f was trying to get rid of his tta last I heard.
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:04 PM
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i work for a rental car company.. and i havent driven the stick version .. but ive done the best "manual shifting" i could do.. and them **** boxes dont move for nothing... i got a 91 3.1 and i defenitly dont think it would beat mine... smoke the dumass...
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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Thank G0D Bob Lutz is at GM now.
Hopefully we will see the return of the Camaro/Firebird, GTO, Chevelle, El Camino, Buick GS-GN-GNX

:hail: :hail: :hail:

GM LIVES ON !!!

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Bob Lutz

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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:07 PM
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Doe's he have the ZST focus ?
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:26 PM
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Kyle F was banned...dunno about Grames now
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Old Feb 28, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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off topic:
this sounds like me comparing my cars:
85 Firebird 2.8 ( soon, hopefully, to have the 3.4 & turbo later)
76 bonneville 400 (nitrous when the bird is done)

the bonnie came factory w/ 180hp & 320trq, the best stock I did was 17.1 (so far I now have a minitach so I can abause it a little more @ the track)

the boat has a more powerful engine, but also weighs about 1200 pounds more (est 4700 race weight).

from what I've read, that's about what the stock birds did. would make a good bracket race.


on topic:
get a fresh rebuiltengine w/mods, then trash his ****. I think he would take you, by being newer & lighter.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 07:41 AM
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I know both of these cars The focus boy in question is already on the second shifter assembly in his car at 6k trashed the first one powershifting. On the night he ran the 16.2 he was running against a 99 civic dx with type r drive train a car he has never beaten b4 and has run 15 flat at the track he won 10 of 11 runs including a 17.5

Either way Camaro's Rule!!!!!
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 10:53 AM
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Well if you get a 10 180 Termo that may help, take out the spare tire, make a CAI with a KN if possible. Plus with a V6 we dont get real traction problems like the big V8s do. All I can say other than that is put the pedal to the metal ANd remeber its a POS ford,and the firebirds are probly more aero dynamic.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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guess what guys i raced the focus last night and ripped him a new *******
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 03:43 PM
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guess what guys i raced the focus last night and ripped him a new *******
I've looked in my car mags , the slowcus ZXT or ZST whatever it is , i mean focus runs 16.90 the ZST is the faster one . I think he is full of $hit saying he runs 16.2 , or maybe he ran that in his dreams

ZST could be a little faster , thats prabably a 5spd but then again I have to agree with Karl about the crappy shifters they have , I have heard that from people also .

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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 03:48 PM
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i also have to agree with Karl , on the shifters they have are crappy , I have heard that from other people to .
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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guess what guys i raced the focus last night and ripped him a new *******
Cool! Glad to hear it! Did you guys go to the track or was it a street race? It'd be funny to beat him at the track- if he races again.

My friend's old mazda had the equivilant of a 4.29 rear gear... that thing was insanely quick. But then again, it wasn't a focus econobox, either.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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it was a street race
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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guess what guys i raced the focus last night and ripped him a new *******
:sillylol: HaH HaH HaH I love It!!!!
What did the guy forget to feed the hamsters in the cage under the hood of that fucus WHEEEEEEEEEEWWWWW I love it.
Sometimes we under estimate our V6 f-bodies.
GOOD JOB.

The other night my wife ( and she can race a car) and I drag raced I was in the 89 2.8 firebird, She was in the 97 3.1 Lumina.
She pulled me from the start by a car length , At 50 I caught back up and we were side by side . At 85 she was barely inching away.
I have absolutely no mods. I just keep it tuned . I am going to make a CAI set up ,install a K&N , and a 2030 cam in the very near future.
I believe If I had more cam the Lumina wouldnt have a chance.
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Old Mar 1, 2002 | 11:55 PM
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I think people forget in the 80's a V6 with over 125 horse was pretty strong compared to other most other V6's. Well the Fbodys with sixers in them from the factory ran pretty strong with 135RW-HP. I think the 2.8's-3.1 are faster than expected on a Fbody. THe 3d gen V6s from the factory are about as quick as the 4th gen 6's coming from the factory. I think its mainly cause the 4gens are heavier. So a 3.4 Engine in a 3rd gen fbody equals "Watch your *** Mustangs and rice bodies"
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