Air silenser
MAF screen is the mesh screen that is in front of your MAF which protects it from small debrie (spelling?) damaging it .
Don't remove it . Many people remove and have rough idle problems .Or they damage the maf in the process of doing it .I know I have it removed , but I got lucky when I removed mine and did not have any problems .But its really better to leave it in there .
Don't remove it . Many people remove and have rough idle problems .Or they damage the maf in the process of doing it .I know I have it removed , but I got lucky when I removed mine and did not have any problems .But its really better to leave it in there .
Originally posted by rpmdrw
I beg to differ i know what he is talking about now, I did now the screens were called an air silenser, I do now and I have removed them about 2 years ago.:hail:
I beg to differ i know what he is talking about now, I did now the screens were called an air silenser, I do now and I have removed them about 2 years ago.:hail:
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If your talking about the air box there is a plastic peice that kinda comes around and goes doen to about a inch its plastic if you just pry it off youll have a big 3 inch hole and have more air flow. It gies it a different sound form the irbox and a little better throtle response
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I know I right
If we could all reffer to our hayes repair manual and look on page 6-2 we will all see taht the 3.1 liter engine did come with a MAF sensor located in the air box on the bottom picute Fig. no. 7 but I guess that hayes is wrong and you are right! SO WHO IS THE MORON NOW!:lala:
I should have changed that in my sig along time ago . At the time I did my sig I thought , it wasn't a silencer but still wasn't sure . Sometimes I still call it a silencer but I know its really not that .Its the MAF screen . lol
Originally posted by Drew
HayNes manuals are the most worthless, garbage, pos, manuals on the market.
Thirdgens don't really have air silencers unless you consider the ducting as silencers.
HayNes manuals are the most worthless, garbage, pos, manuals on the market.
Thirdgens don't really have air silencers unless you consider the ducting as silencers.
I've got the old school thirdgen camaro chiltons with the cartoon yellow Iroc on the front, and its even better than any of the haynes manuals.
To give you an idea of how bad the haynes manuals are... I've got the 82-92 Camaro manual, the 82-92 Firebird manual, the 93-97 Firebird manual, and the 93-97 Camaro manual, all of which were given to me cause they suck so badly. Anymore I use the chiltons total car care manuals or the helms manuals.
To give you an idea of how bad the haynes manuals are... I've got the 82-92 Camaro manual, the 82-92 Firebird manual, the 93-97 Firebird manual, and the 93-97 Camaro manual, all of which were given to me cause they suck so badly. Anymore I use the chiltons total car care manuals or the helms manuals.
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Re: I know I right
Odd; I prefer the Haynes books... but I never bought a Chilton's "total care" book. I just flipped thru those little Chilton's that are the size of a small paperback book. Those are worthless... but maybe I'll hunt down one of these "total care" books. Aren't they the big hardcover suckers? (I still prefer my Helms manual, though!
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RPMDRW, I don't recall EVER seeing any 3.1 picture with a MAF in the TB. You sure you're not talking about the 4th gen 3.4l SFI F-bodies?? Your computer uses the speed density (MAP sensor) to measure incoming air flow, so why the heck would your TB have a MAF sensor built in??? Did someone before you swap some funky parts in? The SD system was on all 90-92 3.1 F-bodies, PERIOD. If you have something else, it did not come that way from the factory.
3.4L SFI motors, in the '93-'94 F-bodies, used a MAF sensor in the TB. Did someone do a MPFI-3.1 to SFI-3.4 swap in your car?? If so, you might want to ask about 3.4 questions, not 3.1 questions.
Oh- and...
If you don't want our help/knowledge, that's fine.
)RPMDRW, I don't recall EVER seeing any 3.1 picture with a MAF in the TB. You sure you're not talking about the 4th gen 3.4l SFI F-bodies?? Your computer uses the speed density (MAP sensor) to measure incoming air flow, so why the heck would your TB have a MAF sensor built in??? Did someone before you swap some funky parts in? The SD system was on all 90-92 3.1 F-bodies, PERIOD. If you have something else, it did not come that way from the factory.
3.4L SFI motors, in the '93-'94 F-bodies, used a MAF sensor in the TB. Did someone do a MPFI-3.1 to SFI-3.4 swap in your car?? If so, you might want to ask about 3.4 questions, not 3.1 questions.
Oh- and...
Originally posted by rpmdrw
I guess that hayes is wrong and you are right! SO WHO IS THE MORON NOW!:lala:
I guess that hayes is wrong and you are right! SO WHO IS THE MORON NOW!:lala:
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are you talking about your IAT TOm i know its not the right name for us but thats what i lernt
Originally posted by FAST RS
are you talking about your IAT TOm i know its not the right name for us but thats what i lernt
are you talking about your IAT TOm i know its not the right name for us but thats what i lernt
And MAF screen removal CAN BE A PERFORMANCE LOSS. It does not always make power. It is there because of the factory intlet tubing having all the bends. The screen "Staightens" out the aire flow over the sensor so it can read correctly and help the airflow INTO the manifold. NOW if your ducting is pretty straight, then yes removing the MAF(If its on your car) COULD be a power gain.
Last edited by Camaro_hunter_d; Apr 8, 2002 at 07:15 PM.
Chilton and Haynes instructions:
To fix car do the following steps:
1. Remove the part which contains the broken piece.
2. Replace the broken piece
3. Install is the reverse of removel.
They are really helpful, uhhhhh no.
Can't we all just get along! Don't be so quick to flame and don't be too defensive. Gee, I hope everything is spelled correctly.
To fix car do the following steps:
1. Remove the part which contains the broken piece.
2. Replace the broken piece
3. Install is the reverse of removel.
They are really helpful, uhhhhh no.
Can't we all just get along! Don't be so quick to flame and don't be too defensive. Gee, I hope everything is spelled correctly.
Re: I know I right
Originally posted by rpmdrw
If we could all reffer to our hayes repair manual and look on page 6-2 we will all see taht the 3.1 liter engine did come with a MAF sensor located in the air box on the bottom picute Fig. no. 7 but I guess that hayes is wrong and you are right! SO WHO IS THE MORON NOW!:lala:
If we could all reffer to our hayes repair manual and look on page 6-2 we will all see taht the 3.1 liter engine did come with a MAF sensor located in the air box on the bottom picute Fig. no. 7 but I guess that hayes is wrong and you are right! SO WHO IS THE MORON NOW!:lala:
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Originally posted by Camaro_hunter_d
NO it IS AN IAT. For INLET AIR TEMP. It's NOT MANIFOLD AIR TEMP. Manifold Air temp would be 1 too hard to measure cause anything you tried to put in will eventually measure the metal temp of the manifold, NOT the actual air temp. THATS why it was moved to the AIR BOX.
NO it IS AN IAT. For INLET AIR TEMP. It's NOT MANIFOLD AIR TEMP. Manifold Air temp would be 1 too hard to measure cause anything you tried to put in will eventually measure the metal temp of the manifold, NOT the actual air temp. THATS why it was moved to the AIR BOX.
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This if for both Camaro Hunter D and Tom P,
You two are both talking about two entirely different engines with two very different intake systems you are both right for your respective year and engine but with diffrent names for a part that essentially does the same thing
You two are both talking about two entirely different engines with two very different intake systems you are both right for your respective year and engine but with diffrent names for a part that essentially does the same thing
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This if for both Camaro Hunter D and Tom P,
You two are both talking about two entirely different engines with two very different intake systems you are both right for your respective year and engine but with diffrent names for a part that essentially does the same thing
You two are both talking about two entirely different engines with two very different intake systems you are both right for your respective year and engine but with diffrent names for a part that essentially does the same thing
I cant see how this is still being talked about. Its simple. A MAF is a big circle that air goes through. If you know ANYTHING about cars then you will know what this is. Dont be a dumb ***. ANYWAYS on a side note I just hit 12's!!!!!!
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Originally posted by badandy247
This if for both Camaro Hunter D and Tom P,
You two are both talking about two entirely different engines with two very different intake systems you are both right for your respective year and engine but with diffrent names for a part that essentially does the same thing
This if for both Camaro Hunter D and Tom P,
You two are both talking about two entirely different engines with two very different intake systems you are both right for your respective year and engine but with diffrent names for a part that essentially does the same thing
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