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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

So i just installed new 17x9.5 zr1 wheels.

It is now rubbing on the right hand front side on some sort of ball joint.

Any idea why this is?

ONLY on the right side. Ican upload pics if necessary
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Old Oct 13, 2011 | 09:11 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

Tie rod is rubbing on the passenger side only
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

you have spacers, are they the same? measure and make sure

any other suspension work?

its possible the steering arm is bent, but i really doubt it.
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 04:36 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

I just put on the Hawks third gen wheel spacers.

theyre designed for this application.

Ive always noticed that when making right turns, say into a parking lot, the front end kind of hops.

Maybe thats a sign?

I dont know, its kind of beyond me!
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

car is stock otherwise
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 04:44 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

so are the wheels rubbing, grinding the wheel, or is the front end just hopping when turning tight and slow, because thats normal.
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Old Oct 14, 2011 | 07:13 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

That the scrub effect of our cars that is designed into the front suspension (kind of a flaw, really). The wider the wheels get, the worse it will scrub. There are ways to 'fix' this but that requires a ton of adjustable pieces and fiddling with SAI and IA at an alignment shop for hours for such a minimal thing.
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 03:05 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

thats suckish -___- lol..i was just gonna post up about that..never knew
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 04:57 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

Got that info from Dean back when he posted in his thread "Ultimate Suspension" ..
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 06:29 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

Ahah thanks guys,

I cant get my head around it though.

It only rubs on one side.

Really killin me here!
the wheels look so good, but i cant drive it!
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

what's your total wheel backspacing (wheel + spacer)? if it's more than, say appx five-and-a-quarter inch (5-1/4"), then IMHO, you're in the danger zone with the C4 ZR1 17x9.5" wheels.

I presume your pass side wheel rubbing is occurring only on steering wheel all-the-way-over right turns?
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Old Oct 15, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

Originally Posted by zz's z28
Ahah thanks guys,

I cant get my head around it though.

It only rubs on one side.

Really killin me here!
the wheels look so good, but i cant drive it!
if its rubbing, something is wrong with the wheel or the spacer.


take the wheels off, and swap the spacers to the opposite side, see if that helps.

while its apart, measure the thickness of the spacer and the backspacing of the wheel and see what they are. If something is different between the two, it will become apparent.

If they all measure the same, you would have a bent steering arm, if thats what rubbing, but you seem to have some contradicting info here.

take a picture of the tie rod to tire clearance if you can. And while you are down there, how much room do you have to the tie rod on the side that does not rub?
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Old Oct 16, 2011 | 07:12 AM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

My son put some wide spacers and 4th gen camaro/corvetter type 17" wheels/tires on his 91 RS. The left fron wheel barely rubbed that lip that sticks out from the strut (about 1/4 to 3/8" up from the lip of the wheel). A couple of passes with an angle grinder took a 1/4" off that lip and no more rubbing.
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Old Oct 18, 2011 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

Thanks for all the help everyone!

Got it all to workout, ended up putting the wrong spacers on the front...

Anyway, It worked out and heres a video of what it looks like now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRQltJ4gaFM

I think its a good look, still getting used to the handling aspect
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Old Oct 19, 2011 | 01:00 AM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

where in md?
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Old Oct 20, 2011 | 10:43 PM
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Re: Right front wheel rubbing after 4th gen wheel install

i had the same problem. i had switched out the right tie rod end and the replacement was quite a bit thicker on than the original. my ZR1's were rubbing/grinding pretty bad on it. i used the little spacer used for the rear tires on the front. problem solved...
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