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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 12:19 AM
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Is this vin # from a real 87 vert??

VIN:[1G1FP21H9HL108321]


Car is in need of some body repair, Supposedly run's good!

Seller's Info= RICK, it's a 305 4-bar. automatic !!!! i'm not the original owner !!!! i bought this car for the vert parts, but decided to try & sell it whole !!! it's 100% complete !!!! it has am-fm cassette, full power, steering, brakes, locks, windows, air works, but blows warm !!!! 78,000 original never garaged miles !!!! MEL

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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 07:23 AM
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Here are the results for your query on: 1G1FP21H9HL108321
Made in: United States
Manufacturer: General Motors
Make: Chevrolet
Carline Code: F-Body
Carline Series: Camaro (all models)
Body Type: 2 door coupe (hatchback)
Restraint System: Manual belts
Engine Code: 305 ci V8 LG4 (1987)
9 is the CHECK DIGIT
Model Year: 1987
Assembly Plant: Van Nuys
Production Sequence: 108321

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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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Question about the info above.

What is the production Sequence Number?
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 12:03 PM
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Re: Vert Vin #

Originally posted by RicksRedNomad
Is this vin # from a real 87 vert??

VIN:[1G1FP21H9HL108321]


Car is in need of some body repair, Supposedly run's good!

Seller's Info= RICK, it's a 305 4-bar. automatic !!!! i'm not the original owner !!!! i bought this car for the vert parts, but decided to try & sell it whole !!! it's 100% complete !!!! it has am-fm cassette, full power, steering, brakes, locks, windows, air works, but blows warm !!!! 78,000 original never garaged miles !!!! MEL

i believe you want the 6th letter over to be a 3... yours is a 2... either thats a mistype or you have a coupe.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Thanks for your reply to this, This was the vin # supplied to me & a Car-fax report came up with same thing about a coupe. Made me a little suspicious of the car, Does look pretty good from the e-mail pic's that i received from current owner. Personally i am more of a Iroc T-Top person but my daughter has a 1991 Lebaron vert & i enjoy driving this at time's, i think i will still go look at the car as it's within a couple hundred mile's of me.

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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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Looks like ASC did the conversion, if thats the car.

The Camaros are all supposed to have the right VIN, as far as I know... but I can tell you that ASC converted cars that dont have the 'correct' VIN.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 11:22 PM
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Looks like ASC did the conversion, if thats the car.
Thanks for your reply on the subject, i just recieved a e-mail from owner tonight stating that it was one of the ASC conversion's & that car still has all original sticker's on it stating it was . Make's it look even better now knowing it's not rigged up somebody!
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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It does look like an ASC conversion.

Question, does being an early ASC conversion make it more valuable?
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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That really has no bearing on my decision, i was just concerned that it was not some hack job. I have been looking for t-top Iroc & stumbled across this car, now my problem is that i have found this car that i like & would probably be a good investment & have found a t-top roc also. Of course i want both but wife has a problem with that so i better figure out how i'm gonna handle this?????
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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Let the wife make the decision on which you get if you want both equally. You'll probably score big brownee points and she may not complain so much about the investment in fixup/restoration...

I am a bachelor. I am perfectly qualified to give marital advice...

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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Speedgraphic Let the wife make the decision on which you get if you want both equally. You'll probably score big brownee points and she may not complain so much about the investment in fixup/restoration...
That sound's like a good plan! Since this was aftermarket conversion job so to speak are these also counted in total production of Camaro vert's for the year? Would not having the ASC documentation hurt value of the car? Back to your original Question on value, are they in fact worth more? was 87 the 1st year for production of vert's? I can say that at 1st i was skeptical of this car & so have other people & they just walked away from it rather than do any investigation .

Sorry if i am being a pest to you, you seem to know a lot about these car's & i value your advise, i just feel that a car like this deserve's a 2nd chance at life rather that being parted out or hacked up!!!

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Let the wife make the decision on which you get if you want both equally. You'll probably score big brownee points and she may not complain so much about the investment in fixup/restoration...
That sound's like a good plan! Since this was aftermarket conversion job so to speak are these also counted in total production of Camaro vert's for the year? Would not having the ASC documentation hurt value of the car? Back to your original Question on value, are they in fact worth more? was 87 the 1st year for production of vert's? I can say that at 1st i was skeptical of this car & so have other people & they just walked away from it rather than do any investigation .

Sorry if i am being a pest to you, you seem to know a lot about these car's & i value your advise, i just feel that a car like this deserve's a 2nd chance at life rather that being parted out or hacked up!!!

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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Let me do a little poking around -I've got a couple of books that should have info on this...

I'd rather give you a factually correct answer than give you somthing I almost remember...
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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What I found...

I was unable to find any numbers on convertibles other than those ordered from GM as convertibles. The following was c/p from another post on TGO:

Camaro convertible was introduced for the first time since 1969 as a regular production option. The convertible was available on the Sport Coupe, Sport Coupe LT, Z28, and IROC-Z. The new 350 TPI motor was not available in the convertible however. The convertible conversion was performed on t-top equipped (t-top models have extra bracing) Camaros by ASC. Only 1,007 convertibles were produced this first year of production. 1987 was the 20th anniversary of the Camaro and the convertibles were considered the anniversary editions and were signified by a special dash badge that read `20th Anniversary Commemorative Edition'. Also specific to the 87 convertibles were the one year only third brake light and fairings extending a few inches onto the top edge of the doors.

The photo you posted above shows the "fairings" extended "a few inches onto the top edge of the doors." When you look at the car look inside on the passenger side and see if you see the 20th anniversary edition emblem. You probably won't with the "Coupe" VIN.

I stole the following from a web page you might want to visit. It has quite a lot of info on the 1987 Camaro Vert



From T-Top to Chopped Top:
Since GM was only making coupes, cars that were ordered as convertibles had to begin their lives as T-Top [CC1] coupes, because the T-Top cars had additional chassis stiffening built-in from the factory. This was done since cutting the top off a car greatly reduces the overall chassis strength, which can effect crash safety as well as ride quality and handling. GM then sent the cars -- minus items like the t-tops and the rear hatch that would not be needed on a convertible -- to ASC for the actual conversion process.

"Factory" Convertible or Not:
To recognize whether a third-gen ragtop is a "factory" or an aftermarket job, the best thing to do is to check VIN number. If the sixth digit is a number 2, that indicates a factory coupe and a later aftermarket conversion. If it was ordered as a convertible, the digit will be a number 3. Another clue is to look at the RPO code sticker that is located on the inside of the center console glove box (if the cover is original). Factory ragtops will have a code CC1 (T-top coupe) as well as the code Z08 ("Model Conversion, Convertible").


The same webpage asserts that ASC Sport Coupe Convertible production numbers between 220 and 300. This would make the Sport coupe conversion the rarest convertible in the line. Of course that number is for Converted VIN numbered verts. I would hazard that the case could be made that the vert that you pictured was even more rare as it would be among the few '87's not produced for GM in 1987...

It makes you wonder about the whole story. This car started it's life as a Sport Coupe and it was produced in the same year when GM began offering the convertible as a production model. The owner of the car had it converted by the same company as was making the production GM convertible.

What I'm imagining is that someone tight with a dollar (LIKE ME!) realized that it was possible to purchase the Sport Coupe and have it converted at a lower cost than purchasing a "production" vert from GM. It is probable that the price of these cars were hiked as they were special 20'th anniv editions... Maybe someone on this board knows if that was the case...

I had done a bit of looking around at ASC sites in the past. The company still exists and still produces Convertible conversions and products. As far as their web propaganda goes they donot even acknowledge having produced the Camaro Vert. I did copy their contact information in case you want to give them a call and see if anyone can give you any information on production numbers. Who knows you might get lucky!


ASC:If you find that you have additional questions, or are in need of more in-depth information, please contact ASC at 734.246.2772 or by fax at 734.246.0501 between 8:00 a.m. and 5:00 p.m. Eastern Time.

Another idea: Have you thought of running this VIN on Carfax to see what it brings up. If Carfax brings back info on an ASC Conversion I would think that would be as good as any other ASC documentation you might want for authentication for a potential buyer in the future...

Just courious, What is the asking price on this car? The photo looks pretty good. I agree, the car does deserve a second chance at life. A good owner that will give it the TLC it needs could get a lot of pleasure from fixing up and driving a machine like that.

I love my VERT! It is supposed to be in the mid sixties here this weekend. I am planning to go topless to a drive in of FBody owners in Tallahassee FL (About 90 mi away).

Let us know what you find when you go look at the car. I'm curious!

Speedy

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 11:10 PM
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If you do a search around here, you'll find that ASC only did conversions for the manufacturer or through GM channels. Everyone I have talked to is pretty much in agreement that normal people couldnt take their car there to be converted.
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by madmax
If you do a search around here, you'll find that ASC only did conversions for the manufacturer or through GM channels. Everyone I have talked to is pretty much in agreement that normal people couldnt take their car there to be converted.
I'll start by admitting that I don't know everything. Although I have no means of proving it, I am pretty sure you are wrong on that. My understanding is that ASC made the vert conversion for about two years before GM decided to offer it as a "production" option in 1987. This would explain ASC convertibles that still have the "2" (Coupe) VIN number.

I wasn't in the market for one of these cars at that time so I have no first hand knowledge. It might have been that you had to go through a dealer to get your car to ASC. Although it is probably useless information I would be interested in knowing, as a fact, how this was done...
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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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I contacted ASC

I spoke with someone at ASC. She had no knowledge of whether or not an individual could have brought their own car to ASC for conversion. I emailed her the VIN number from above. She is going to check their records and email me any information she can find on that car...

I'll post whatever she finds as soon as I get it.

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Old Feb 27, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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I sure am glad to have posted my question on this board, i had originally posted on another board that i have been a member of for quite some time and got like a couple of reply's. I must state that 3rd gen is not strong forum of that site so i decided to come here, You guy's have been GREAT at helping out someone that just posted to your board . you can count on me staying a member here!!!!

On the subject of car i left a message for him that i was ready to make connection to buy the car, maybe i can get it this weekend.
I did get a car fax on this car and it came up clean as a whistle but nothing to indicate about it being a ASC car, it was basically a one owner car so i may be able to find out some more detail's from the original owner. I will post as i know anything and again i say THANK"S FOR SUCH A GREAT WELCOME AND ALL THE HELP!!!!!!
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Old Mar 1, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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ASC's Response

I contacted ASC to see if they could give me any information on the VIN Number at the top of this thread. Briefly, the VIN was on a Vert but it had a "2" Sixth digit which denotes a Coupe. A sixth digit of "3" would show up in the VIN of a "factory" conversion.

The persion I spoke with seemed to want to help and I believe she did all she could. She finally got back with me today and said that ASC did not keep any records on the cars they did and that there was nothing she could tell me about the car.

In short - no new news.
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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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Thank's for checking that out for me Speedgraphic , I have bought the car and will be getting it this Saturday. You can count on hearing more from me as i get this car back in the shape that it deserve's , I used the rpo decoder here and was able to determine what option's car has and was wondering if i should post them??

I have sent in for the restoration packet and also the original sticker from info. i was able to find at this site, Next step is try to get hold of original owner for more assistance. All the guy i got from knew was that the original owner supposedly seen the car in showroom and had it sent off for the conversion.

Of course this is all word of mouth at this time, the car has traded hand's a couple of time's since original owner w/out any other owner's having the title changed over. more info will be added as soon as i get any update's.

Thank's Again for all the help!!!!!!

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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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C O N G R A T S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You are going to LOVE that car. I just got back from a business trip in mine. A co-worker and I had to go to Valdosta GA to work on computer equip down there. We dropped the top about lunch and took the back way down there 77degrees with blue sky and puffy white clouds!

Keep us posted about the car and what your plans and accomplishments are!

Good Luck
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 11:09 PM
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I once had a copy of the application for getting your bird converted to a convertible. I recently lost all the stuff on my computer but I'm looking to see if I had it backed up. The only thing I remember it saying is that the car had to be a t-top to be converted.
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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 11:19 PM
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Thanks for your reply on this, acording to the rpo code's this car was a t-top. If you find that info please post it here as i'm sure several people other than myself would be interested in the info.,
Welcome to the forum and i hope you enjoy it as much as i have.

GREAT PEOPLE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 06:22 AM
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lol. Well that's probably where I got it in the first place. I wasted a lot of time looking for that stuff. Thanks madmax

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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 10:12 AM
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BTW, that doesnt mean any normal Joe could have gone and taken their car to ASC to be converted. Everyone I have talked to (besides ASC a long long long time ago) says it wasnt possible. I actually called them in 1989 about converting my 85, and they told me they could. I never did it though, so who knows if that was possible or not. I will say I have never seen one that appeared to be a 'customers' car that was later converted. Well... thats besides the TTA vert. But I dont think that counts, it was basically GM's car.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 11:35 AM
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Re: C O N G R A T S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Speedgraphic
We dropped the top about lunch and took the back way down there 77degrees with blue sky and puffy white clouds!

[/QUOTE

Ahhh Speedy....ya know, i was almost liking ya...right up until ya posted that. Cuz I'm sitting here after the lousiest winter we've had in 5 years....got a hint of spring the other day...and now its cold and rainy again.

77...blue sky...puffy clouds...grrrr.... (hey..do we have a jealous smilie on here? lol)
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 11:54 AM
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Re: Re: C O N G R A T S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Deemax
Originally posted by Speedgraphic
We dropped the top about lunch and took the back way down there 77degrees with blue sky and puffy white clouds!

[/QUOTE

Ahhh Speedy....ya know, i was almost liking ya...right up until ya posted that. Cuz I'm sitting here after the lousiest winter we've had in 5 years....got a hint of spring the other day...and now its cold and rainy again.

77...blue sky...puffy clouds...grrrr.... (hey..do we have a jealous smilie on here? lol)
its 80 somthing degrees out here right now. it was 81 yesterday.

nice.
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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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81 degrees here today. I went topless at lunch!

Oh well, We'll be paying for it come summer. You guys who are stuck in th cold will be in the 80's and we will be at 98degrees and 90% relative humidity.

Of course some people call that hot. I call it wonderful. I HATE cold weather!

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Old Mar 4, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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Did it look anything like this???



Here is a list of code's for the Vert, What do u think of the option's on this car?

Here are your results:
AM9 : SEAT, RR, SPLIT, BACK, FLDG
AR9 : SEAT, FRT BKT, EUROPEAN STYLE, PASS A DRIVER RECL
AU3 : LOCK CONTROL, SIDE DR, ELEC
A01 : WINDOW, TINTED, ALL SHADED, W/S
A31 : WINDOW, POWER OPERATED, SIDE
A90 : LOCK CONTROL, RR COMPT LID, REM CONT ELEC RELEASE
BS1 : INSULATION, ACOUSTICAL PKG
B18 : ORNAMENTATION, INTR, DELUX
B34 : COVERING, FRT FLOOR MATS CARPETED INSERT
B35 : COVERING, REAR, FLOOR MATS CARPETED INSERT
B84 : ORNAMENTATION, EXTR MLDG, B0DY SIDE
CC1 : ROOF HATCH, REMOVABLE PANELS, GLASS
CD4 : WIPER SYSTEM WINDSHIELD, PULSE
Unable to locate code C4A in our database!
C60 : HVAC SYSTEM, AIR CONDITIONER FRT MAN CONTROLS
D35 : MIRROR, OUTSIDE REAR VIEW
D42 : SHADE, RR COMPT SECURITY
Unable to locate code D60 in our database!
D80 : SPOILER, RR END PNL
D86 : PAINT, TWO-TONE, DELUXE
D98 : STRIPE, ACCENT
E52 : DOOR RR, 83 INCH, WRAP AROUND
E72 : BODY LENGTH, INCR I8 INCH
E9Z : SPEEDOMETER KEY (DELETE)
GU2 : AXLE REAR, 2.73 RATIO
J42 : BRAKE SYSTEM, PWR. FRT DISC, RR DRUM, ALUMINUM
J50 : BRAKE SYSTEM, POWER
K34 : CRUISE CONTROL, AUT0MATIC, ELECTRONIC
K60 : GENERATOR, 100 AMP
LG4 : ENGINE, GAS, 8 CYL, 5.0L, 4BBL
M08 : TRANSMISSION, MAN 4 SPD, BORG WARNER, 77MM, 3.50
MXO : MERCHANDISED, TRANS, AUTO PROVISIONS, O/D
NA5 : EMISSION SYSTEM, FEDERAL, TIER O
NK3 : STEERING WHEEL, SPORT, SOFT RIM, SIMULATED LEATHER
N33 : STEERING COLUMN, TILT TYPE
PC5 : WHEEL, 15 X 7, STEEL, STYLE
P06 : TRIM DISCS, WHEEL
P20 : HUBCAPS, WHEEL, STYLED
QYH : TIRE ALL, P215/65R15/N WOL R/PE ST TL HWY
TR9 : LAMP, GROUP
TT4 : HEADLAMPS, HALOGEN, 4
UM6 : RADIO, AM/FM STEREO, SEEK/SCAN, AUTO REV CASS,
UQ1 : RADIO PROVISIONS, FOR STEREO
U21 : CLUSTER, INST, OIL, COOL TEMP, VOLTS, TACH
U25 : LAMP, INTR, RR COMPT, COURTESY
U26 : LAMP, INTR, ENG COMPT, COURTESY
U29 : LAMP, INTR I/P, COURTESY
U75 : ANTENNA, POWER, RADIO
U79 : SPEAKER SYSTEM, 4, DUAL FRT COAX, DUAL EXT RGE PKG
Unable to locate code UAN in our database!
UK3 : ELECTRONIC SYSTEM, ACCESSORY CONT
U73 : ANTENNA, FIXED, RADIO
YR1 : SEAT,FRT CUSTOM
YS1 : SEAT,RR CUST
YT1 : BUILD UP DR & QTR
YT9 : OPTION PACKAGE, FISHER FURNISHED PARTS
07A : STRIPE COLOR, ACCENT, TWO TONE, WHITE/MED BEECHWOOD**
1AY : 1AY: Stock Orders Processing Option (DEALER ORDERED CAR)
1SD : OPTION PACKAGE 04
19C : TRIM COMBINATION, CLOTH, BLACK (C) (91)
19Q : MOLDING COLOR (BLACK)
19I : INTERIOR TRIM, BLACK (I) (91)
199 : SEAT BELT COLOR, BLACK (91)
Y11 : RING GEAR, 10.50 IN., DANA (S.P.O )
6XW : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, LEFT HAND
7XW : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, RIGHT HAND
8UX : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, LEFT HAND
81U : PRIMARY COLOR, EXTERIOR, BRIGHT RED (91)
9UX : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, RIGHT HAND


If not cool to post something like this please let me know?????

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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 01:00 AM
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Car: 1989 Formy droptop/88 Deville
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Looking at the Redbook for Firebird, although not a great source, I admit...the 6th digit was used for year and then body style, 8 being coupe in 1987 and newer. I didn't use online Vin decoders myself however... someone helped with that for me.
As for ASC, the tonneau cover is specific as far as I know for them, they should also be badged on driver's door jam as well.
Another bit I mentioned before, prior ownership of an 84 Biarritz Eldorado, I inquired about factory weatherstrip for the sunroof and tried to get info on American Sunroof Corp, which as it turns out is tied to Automotive Specialty Corp, one owning the other I think, both one in the same.

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Old Apr 10, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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I found out from Willie that my vert is a Sport Coupe and not a LT as i was led to believe, Have found that i will need to do quite a bit of body replacement panels on the car.

Currently stripping down to determine total extent of the rust and have decided that when i put back together i will use a 86 Iroc-Z that i have and make a cross breed out of it. The Iroc-Z has some mod's and 4-wheel disc brakes with a 323 posi rear.

Had it been an actual Lt i would leave it stock...........
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 12:12 AM
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Originally posted by RicksRedNomad
Thanks for your reply to this, This was the vin # supplied to me & a Car-fax report came up with same thing about a coupe. Made me a little suspicious of the car, Does look pretty good from the e-mail pic's that i received from current owner. Personally i am more of a Iroc T-Top person but my daughter has a 1991 Lebaron vert & i enjoy driving this at time's, i think i will still go look at the car as it's within a couple hundred mile's of me.

Is the black one in the picture for sale?
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Cmeb4ubuy I e-mailed the owner tonight and yes it is for sale.

It is a 89 Iroc-Z from Calif. and has 78000 miles on it now
has a 305 TPI and Paxton supercharger with a 5 speed, Look's to be a really nice car from the pic's and is located in Elgin Il.

The owner e-mailed me some pic's and a car fax on it , if you are interested send me a pm and i will forward to you rather than discussing it in the forum.................
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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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Car: 1989 Formy droptop/88 Deville
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Is the black one a drop top? Looks to be, but not quite sure.
My comment on the red Camaro is to consider new rims, not that those are bad, but they look 'base', just not all that fancy. Nice wheels really hi-light a ride.
Bill

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Old Apr 12, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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The black Iroc-Z is a drop top also, Thank's for the input on the rim's. I have a set of the gold Iroc-Z rim's on my wrecked 86 that i will be putting on the car along with the 305 TPI motor and most of the drivetrain...........
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Old May 4, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Car: 1992 Camaro RS Convertible & 1983 P
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"The RPO L98 350-cid, 245-hp V8 engine could not be ordered with 1992 Camaro convertibles from Chevrolet dealers. However, ASC did build convertibles for customer-owned Camaro's (also true in 1986, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990 & 1991) and some 1992 350ci Camaro convertibles were definitely built. The 6th digit will NEVER be "3" (convertible) in this case. It will ALWAYS be "2" (coupe) as it started off as a coupe with the optional L98 350-cid engine. This applies to ALL 3rd Gen Convertibles."

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Old May 28, 2004 | 02:00 AM
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His & Her's, 87 Vert & 87 Iroc-Z

When i first come across the vert i was looking for a T-Top Iroc-Z,
As luck would have it i recently also found what i was originally after. I used the logic of a His & Her's car's on my wife to persuade her to let me buy the Iroc-z (Thanks to Speedy) for the previous advise on how to handle situation......

Both car's will be identical in look's once i get the vert cross bred with the 86 Iroc-Z part's car that i have, Thanks to a great forum for all the help!!!!!!!!!!!!!



This is the RPO listing for the Iroc-Z................

Here are the results for your query on: 1G1FP21F4HN149796
Made in: United States
Manufacturer: General Motors
Make: Chevrolet
Carline Code: F-Body
Carline Series: Camaro (all models)
Body Type: 2 door coupe (hatchback)
Restraint System: Manual belts
Engine Code: 305 ci V8 LB9 (1987-1992)
4 is the CHECK DIGIT
Model Year: 1987
Assembly Plant: Norwood
Production Sequence: 149796
Here are your results:
AC3 : ADJUSTER, FRT ST, POWER, 6 WAY, BKT, DRIVER
AG9 : ADJUSTER, SEAT, POWER, 6 WAY
AM9 : SEAT, RR, SPLIT, BACK, FLDG
AR9 : SEAT, FRT BKT, EUROPEAN STYLE, PASS A DRIVER RECL
AU3 : LOCK CONTROL, SIDE DR, ELEC
A07 : WINDOW, BODY
A31 : WINDOW, POWER OPERATED, SIDE
A90 : LOCK CONTROL, RR COMPT LID, REM CONT ELEC RELEASE
B18 : ORNAMENTATION, INTR, DELUX
B34 : COVERING, FRT FLOOR MATS CARPETED INSERT
B35 : COVERING, REAR, FLOOR MATS CARPETED INSERT
B42 : COVERING, FLOOR MAT, LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT FITTED
B48 : TRIM EQUIPMENT, LUGGAGE COMPARTMENT
B91 : ORNAMENTATION, EXTR MLDG DR EDGE GUARD, COLORED
B94 : ORNAMENTATION, EXTR EMBLEM, BODY, VAR I
B97 : ORNAMENTATION, EXTR MLDG, LOWER ACCENT
CC1 : ROOF HATCH, REMOVABLE PANELS, GLASS
CD4 : WIPER SYSTEM WINDSHIELD, PULSE
C49 : DEFOGGER, RR WINDOW, ELECTRIC
C60 : HVAC SYSTEM, AIR CONDITIONER FRT MAN CONTROLS
DD8 : MIRROR I/S, R/V, LT SENSITIVE
DG7 : MIRROR 0/S, LH & RH, REM CONT, ELEC, PAINTED
DK6 : CONSOLE ROOF, INTERIOR
D08 : PAINT, HIGH GLOSS FINISH
D34 : MIRROR, VISOR VANITY
D42 : SHADE, RR COMPT SECURITY
D6E : GEAR, SPEEDO DRIVEN
D80 : SPOILER, RR END PNL
D88 : DECAL, STRIPE, SPORT
E5Z : SPEEDOMETER ADAPTER (DELETE)
E72 : BODY LENGTH, INCR I8 INCH
E9Z : SPEEDOMETER KEY (DELETE)
FE2 : SUSPENSION SYSTEM, RIDE HANDLING
GU2 : AXLE REAR, 2.73 RATIO
G80 : AXLE POSITRACTION, LIMITED SLIP
J42 : BRAKE SYSTEM, PWR. FRT DISC, RR DRUM, ALUMINUM
J50 : BRAKE SYSTEM, POWER
K34 : CRUISE CONTROL, AUT0MATIC, ELECTRONIC
K68 : GENERATOR,105 AMP
LB9 : ENGINE, GAS, 8 CYL, 5.0L, TPI, HO
MD8 : TRANSMISSION, AUTO 4 SPD, THM 700 R4
MXO : MERCHANDISED, TRANS, AUTO PROVISIONS, O/D
NA5 : EMISSION SYSTEM, FEDERAL, TIER O
NOD : ASSEMBLY PLANT, NORWOOD, OHIO
NP5 : STEERING WHEEL, LEATHER WRAPPED
N33 : STEERING COLUMN, TILT TYPE
N64 : WHEEL & TIRE,SPARE, SPACE SAVER, ALUMINUM
N96 : WHEEL, 16 X 8, CAST ALUMINUM
PB4 : LOCK CONTROL, WHEEL
P20 : HUBCAPS, WHEEL, STYLED
QDZ : TIRE ALL, P245/50VR16/N BL R/PE ST TL HW4
TR9 : LAMP, GROUP
TT4 : HEADLAMPS, HALOGEN, 4
T93 : LAMP, TAIL & STOP, SPECIAL
T96 : LAMP, FOG
UA1 : BATTERY, HEAVY DUTY
UX1 : RADIO, AM/FM STEREO CASSETTE EQUALIZER
UZ1 : TELEPHONE, PROVISIONS FOR INTEGRATED M08ILE
U25 : LAMP, INTR, RR COMPT, COURTESY
U26 : LAMP, INTR, ENG COMPT, COURTESY
U29 : LAMP, INTR I/P, COURTESY
U75 : ANTENNA, POWER, RADIO
U79 : SPEAKER SYSTEM, 4, DUAL FRT COAX, DUAL EXT RGE PKG
VK3 : LICENSE PLATE, FRT MOUNTING PKG
V73 : ANTENNA, FIXED
YR1 : SEAT,FRT CUSTOM
YS1 : SEAT,RR CUST
YT1 : BUILD UP DR & QTR
YT9 : OPTION PACKAGE, FISHER FURNISHED PARTS
Z28 : MERCHANDISED PKG, SPECIAL PERFORMANCE
1AY : 1AY: Stock Orders Processing Option (DEALER ORDERED CAR)
Unable to locate code 1HV in our database!
1SC : PACKAGE, OPTION 03
15P : WHEEL COLOR SILVER METALLIC (91)
6ZX : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, LEFT HAND
7ZX : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, FRONT, RIGHT HAND
8NL : COMPUTER SELECTED REAR LEFTHAND SPRING
81Q : MOLDING COLOR, BRIGHT RED (91)
81U : PRIMARY COLOR, EXTERIOR, BRIGHT RED (91)
82C : TRIM COMBINATION, CLOTH, MED DK GRAY (C) (91)
82I : INTERIOR TRIM, MED DK GRAY (91)
829 : SEAT BELT COLOR, MED DK GRAY (91)
86A : STRIPE COLOR, ACCENT, TWO TONE RED/GUNMETAL (91)
9NL : SPRING, COMPUTER SELECTED, REAR, RIGHT HAND

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Old May 28, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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Too Cool...

RicksRedNomad,

Rick,
Congrats on successfully negotating the deals on TWO Camaros...

Maybe we should send you to N. Korea to talk to Kim Jong Il?

Seriously, having his and hers identical (except top) cars is going to be neat as hell...

Be sure to send pics as you progress... I'm sure other vert owners will be interested.

That IROC looks GREAT!

Speedy
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