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He told me they would be shipped out on a friday, after I didn't hear anything I emailed him back. He said that the person that was supposed to ship them didn't have the address. I gave him the address again. He then emailed me a couple days later saying they were shipped out and I would be getting them soon. After a week I asked him how they were shipped because I still haven't recieved them. He replied by saying that they were misplaced, he lost his job and was going to refund my money.
Now I see this post, very interesting!!!
Now I see this post, very interesting!!!
Email conversations (kind of long)
After rereading the email I may have misunderstood it, but it still sounds fishy.
Here are the emails from the begining you guys tell me what you think:
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
im getting a money order tommorw,
im sorry for all this crap i put you thorw, i really wanted to sell these too!
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
How quick can I expect a refund???
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
they got missed placed at work, and im pissed.... btw i got fired last tursday....
so can i cant ship them out for 5 bucks now , so im going to send all your money back to you....this sucks ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
How were these heads shipped? (UPS, USPS, FedEx)
I haven't recieved them yet just curious?
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi jon, they haven been sent out, you should be getting them soon
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey whats going on with these heads???
Got me wondering.
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
hey Jon, this isn't working to well, i just got back from vacation, i went into work and saw your boxes still sitting there, haha dude wow im losing my mind i was getting all ready for this last weekend and i forgot to put on the address (slaps head) so they didnt ship them, ah its been one of those weeks rushing to get things done before we left, anyway if i could have your address again, i feel like stuck a dick im really sorry about all this, i well get them out ASAP!!! once i get your address, again im really sorry and i apologize for the delay....
Tony
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Did those heads make it out?
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
hey jon, looks like they get shipped this friday, i needed more packing and i dont work till friday
so like i said i well still let you kno.... but just thot id update you...
Tony
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
sounds good
thanks,
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
hi Jon
it well be tuseday when there ship, but i well still let you kno exaily when they are shipped,
ttyl
Tony
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
That should be it, Could you let me know when you ship the heads out so I can start watching for them.
Thanks,
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
i just got it today, i think, i havent opened it yet but i had to go to the post office to sign for it....
im sure its yours....
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
I sent the money order on Tues. could you let me know when you get it?
Thanks,
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well i cant find the sheet, but they have been boiled, magnafluxed and checked for cracks,
new valve springs, 3 angle valve job
that's all i can remember right now, the've been on my table in my garage for about 2 years now, it well be 10 dollars in shipping (5 for each package) and 165
so the total well be $175.00 i would send them out right away but iv been screwed one to many times before so you'll have to wait till the check clears
send the payment to:
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tony,
I think the only other way to do this is by a personal check, I don't want to send a money order, I seem to have bad luck with them. I am not in a rush to get the heads. I have been looking for a nice set for a while. I am looking at building a 350 to replace my 305. I want more power. Could you give me a little history on these heads? Give me a total and I will get the check out to you, if that is ok?
Thanks,
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey man what's up, unfortunately i don't have paypal so i don't know how you want to do this?
anyway my company wants 3 dollars for each package (to heavy to ship in one box)
so they will be ship in two different box's if that's ok? you well be very happy with these heads,
i would used them my self but kinda pointless to lower the compression on my 305,
well i guess just email me back with what ya want to do, i would take a personnel check but im sure we both don't want to wait 2 weeks, anyways get back to me
Talk to you later,
Tony
Here are the emails from the begining you guys tell me what you think:
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
im getting a money order tommorw,
im sorry for all this crap i put you thorw, i really wanted to sell these too!
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
How quick can I expect a refund???
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
they got missed placed at work, and im pissed.... btw i got fired last tursday....so can i cant ship them out for 5 bucks now , so im going to send all your money back to you....this sucks ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
How were these heads shipped? (UPS, USPS, FedEx)
I haven't recieved them yet just curious?
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi jon, they haven been sent out, you should be getting them soon

Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey whats going on with these heads???
Got me wondering.
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
hey Jon, this isn't working to well, i just got back from vacation, i went into work and saw your boxes still sitting there, haha dude wow im losing my mind i was getting all ready for this last weekend and i forgot to put on the address (slaps head) so they didnt ship them, ah its been one of those weeks rushing to get things done before we left, anyway if i could have your address again, i feel like stuck a dick im really sorry about all this, i well get them out ASAP!!! once i get your address, again im really sorry and i apologize for the delay....
Tony
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Did those heads make it out?
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
hey jon, looks like they get shipped this friday, i needed more packing and i dont work till friday
so like i said i well still let you kno.... but just thot id update you...
Tony
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
sounds good
thanks,
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
hi Jon
it well be tuseday when there ship, but i well still let you kno exaily when they are shipped,
ttyl
Tony
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
That should be it, Could you let me know when you ship the heads out so I can start watching for them.
Thanks,
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
i just got it today, i think, i havent opened it yet but i had to go to the post office to sign for it....
im sure its yours....
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
I sent the money order on Tues. could you let me know when you get it?
Thanks,
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well i cant find the sheet, but they have been boiled, magnafluxed and checked for cracks,
new valve springs, 3 angle valve job
that's all i can remember right now, the've been on my table in my garage for about 2 years now, it well be 10 dollars in shipping (5 for each package) and 165
so the total well be $175.00 i would send them out right away but iv been screwed one to many times before so you'll have to wait till the check clears
send the payment to:
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Tony,
I think the only other way to do this is by a personal check, I don't want to send a money order, I seem to have bad luck with them. I am not in a rush to get the heads. I have been looking for a nice set for a while. I am looking at building a 350 to replace my 305. I want more power. Could you give me a little history on these heads? Give me a total and I will get the check out to you, if that is ok?
Thanks,
Jon
chin leinlow <tpi350d@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hey man what's up, unfortunately i don't have paypal so i don't know how you want to do this?
anyway my company wants 3 dollars for each package (to heavy to ship in one box)
so they will be ship in two different box's if that's ok? you well be very happy with these heads,
i would used them my self but kinda pointless to lower the compression on my 305,
well i guess just email me back with what ya want to do, i would take a personnel check but im sure we both don't want to wait 2 weeks, anyways get back to me
Talk to you later,
Tony
dude your money orders coming, i got fired they lost the heads i got them back.... now i want to sell them agine, i lost my discounted now that i was fired.... i just want to sell these damn things.... im not screwing you over! becuz i have been so many times
and it sucks ***.... i figed id just send your maoney back rather then slip you in the face with another 50 bucks to get them shiped to you...... thats all.... PM and all give you my number if you want to talk more about it..... im having really bad times life really sucks right now.....
and it sucks ***.... i figed id just send your maoney back rather then slip you in the face with another 50 bucks to get them shiped to you...... thats all.... PM and all give you my number if you want to talk more about it..... im having really bad times life really sucks right now..... Junior Member
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I hope you don't really think you'll see your money? I can't believe he actually had the ***** to relist these knowing you might see them. He's either a genius or ?????. Stuff like this has to stop. It makes all the legitimate sellers look bad.
It is crazy the guy has over 2000 posts so you figure he might be an alright guy, but I guess post count doesn't mean sh*t. I did a search on him before hand to see if this guy has dicked some one before but didn't find anything so I assumed it safe.
***-U-ME d!!!
***-U-ME d!!!
Originally posted by IROCZ1990
Stuff like this has to stop. It makes all the legitimate sellers look bad.
Stuff like this has to stop. It makes all the legitimate sellers look bad.
The Lord Works in Mysterious Ways
Oh this is sweet!!!
I found out today that I will be going to St. Paul. My company is starting up a new division there and I will be going to assist on the start up. I will be leaving in three weeks.
Just for the hell of it I map quested this dudes address and damn he lives close to St. Paul. I couldn't believe my luck.
If I don't have my money order before I go....
Sh*t is going to fly!!!
I love it, just because you live far from someone you think you can get away with ripping someone off. The world is a rather small place and things have a way of working out.
I found out today that I will be going to St. Paul. My company is starting up a new division there and I will be going to assist on the start up. I will be leaving in three weeks.
Just for the hell of it I map quested this dudes address and damn he lives close to St. Paul. I couldn't believe my luck.
If I don't have my money order before I go....
Sh*t is going to fly!!!
I love it, just because you live far from someone you think you can get away with ripping someone off. The world is a rather small place and things have a way of working out.
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Re: The Lord Works in Mysterious Ways
Originally posted by jonarotz
...The world is a rather small place and things have a way of working out.
...The world is a rather small place and things have a way of working out.

NEED... fix it, we don't want to hear anymore
, just fix it.Oh... and would you ship those heads C.O.D.?
The sh*t keeps getting deeper
It is amazing how fast someone gets back to you when they realize their busted!!!
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote: How is that money order coming???
I understand you are having hard times it happens to everyone at some point in time. I hope you don't take what I said the wrong way, but I don't know you personally and I have been screwed too many times. I am a little concerned because the shipping of the heads sounded fishy. You would tell me they shipped then tell me they didn't, try to understand where I am coming from.
Jon
Heres his response,
ya life is hard, ya last week i tryed to get around to going to the bank, but been really busy, it should have been on my things to do list instade i put it on the back burner, i just got a few of your emails to day, my computer cashed a week back, ya lifes been depressing.... i promiss you you'll get your money back, i know how it feels to be screwd
lost over a grand to some ****ing clown on ebay.... you'll just have to trust me when i say you'll get it back i know its been sometime now and im sorry,
im just a thirdgener and seems that having 2 of them makes me feel like im at rock bottem sometimes.......
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok,
it looks obvious that you are trying to dick me.
Well I have got some bad news for you. My company is starting up new division in St. Paul. I have been chosen to go along and assist with the start up. I looked to see how close you were to St. Paul and you are pretty damn close. If I don't have my money before I go you will have me knocking at your door along with the local law enforcement. I have tried to be pacient but it looks like you are up to no good. Like I said before I understand hard times but you are just ignoring me now so your intentions are obvious.
Jon
His Response again,
im not dicking you around, you'll get your money im not ****ing you over, even tho it seems like it look... if i have my dad get to the bank tommorw! yes tommorw! and send you your $175 back to you are you going to be at the same address? **** if your really coming to St. pual and yu still want these i'll give you 10 bucks back and you can have the heads and what ever else i have laying arounf that i dont need..... i dunno email me back and as soon as i kno what you want to do then all do it....
Tony
I love the part where he still asks what I want to do!!!
Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote: How is that money order coming???
I understand you are having hard times it happens to everyone at some point in time. I hope you don't take what I said the wrong way, but I don't know you personally and I have been screwed too many times. I am a little concerned because the shipping of the heads sounded fishy. You would tell me they shipped then tell me they didn't, try to understand where I am coming from.
Jon
Heres his response,
ya life is hard, ya last week i tryed to get around to going to the bank, but been really busy, it should have been on my things to do list instade i put it on the back burner, i just got a few of your emails to day, my computer cashed a week back, ya lifes been depressing.... i promiss you you'll get your money back, i know how it feels to be screwd
lost over a grand to some ****ing clown on ebay.... you'll just have to trust me when i say you'll get it back i know its been sometime now and im sorry,
im just a thirdgener and seems that having 2 of them makes me feel like im at rock bottem sometimes.......Jon Arotzarena <jonarotz@yahoo.com> wrote:
Ok,
it looks obvious that you are trying to dick me.
Well I have got some bad news for you. My company is starting up new division in St. Paul. I have been chosen to go along and assist with the start up. I looked to see how close you were to St. Paul and you are pretty damn close. If I don't have my money before I go you will have me knocking at your door along with the local law enforcement. I have tried to be pacient but it looks like you are up to no good. Like I said before I understand hard times but you are just ignoring me now so your intentions are obvious.
Jon
His Response again,
im not dicking you around, you'll get your money im not ****ing you over, even tho it seems like it look... if i have my dad get to the bank tommorw! yes tommorw! and send you your $175 back to you are you going to be at the same address? **** if your really coming to St. pual and yu still want these i'll give you 10 bucks back and you can have the heads and what ever else i have laying arounf that i dont need..... i dunno email me back and as soon as i kno what you want to do then all do it....
Tony
I love the part where he still asks what I want to do!!!
Here is my response
I am surprised that you still have to ask what it is I want to do!!!
I want my ****in money back!!!
I don't want to deal with you in any way what so ever. Just give me my money back and everything will be set straight. I am tired of haveing to go round and round with you what is so damn hard about getting my money back from you. I shipped them, I am getting your money order tommorrow, I will have my dad get one tommorrow, this all sounds like a load of ****!!! If you were really as honest as you say you are, when you told me you shipped the heads you really did or when you were getting a money order you really did!! It looks like you are just full of **** and in my case I am not!!
Here is my address and yes it is the same.
Now I am expecting to hear that you sent the money but it must of gotten lost in the mail!!! Send it with signiture confrimation!!! I think you have an entire book of ****ty excuses so lets see what happens next.
I want my ****in money back!!!
I don't want to deal with you in any way what so ever. Just give me my money back and everything will be set straight. I am tired of haveing to go round and round with you what is so damn hard about getting my money back from you. I shipped them, I am getting your money order tommorrow, I will have my dad get one tommorrow, this all sounds like a load of ****!!! If you were really as honest as you say you are, when you told me you shipped the heads you really did or when you were getting a money order you really did!! It looks like you are just full of **** and in my case I am not!!
Here is my address and yes it is the same.
Now I am expecting to hear that you sent the money but it must of gotten lost in the mail!!! Send it with signiture confrimation!!! I think you have an entire book of ****ty excuses so lets see what happens next.
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If you check out the Auto Detailing board he is in the process of getting his car painted. Since it's your money he's painting his car with did he give you a choice of color?? You need to ask him about that in his thread. He just keeps living life like nothing happened. You need to post in the Classified Feedback board so no one else gets scammed. I don't think anyone else wants to donate to his project!
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Consider this your warning, Cadillac.
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wow...I hope everything works out...crazy
Oh and. You guys know that PAYPAL is instant right???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Oh and. You guys know that PAYPAL is instant right???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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I can't remember what I said in the post that was edited. If it was bad (or immature) I am sorry. However, I do not think it was.
I guess this is why TGO is a free forum.
I guess this is why TGO is a free forum.
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[quote]Heres his response,
ya life is hard, ya last week i tryed to get around to going to the bank, but been really busy, it should have been on my things to do list instade i put it on the back burner, i just got a few of your emails to day, my computer cashed a week back, ya lifes been depressing.... i promiss you you'll get your money back, i know how it feels to be screwd lost over a grand to some ****ing clown on ebay.... you'll just have to trust me when i say you'll get it back i know its been sometime now and im sorry, im just a thirdgener and seems that having 2 of them makes me feel like im at rock bottem sometimes.......
[/qoute]
tell me in here where he is trying to be a dick....
ya life is hard, ya last week i tryed to get around to going to the bank, but been really busy, it should have been on my things to do list instade i put it on the back burner, i just got a few of your emails to day, my computer cashed a week back, ya lifes been depressing.... i promiss you you'll get your money back, i know how it feels to be screwd lost over a grand to some ****ing clown on ebay.... you'll just have to trust me when i say you'll get it back i know its been sometime now and im sorry, im just a thirdgener and seems that having 2 of them makes me feel like im at rock bottem sometimes.......
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tell me in here where he is trying to be a dick....
Last edited by mw66nova; Jul 13, 2005 at 01:03 AM.
I never said he was!!!
I said he was DICKING me over.
He gave me an excuse for everything. He had so many excuses it was insane. I had no idea what to beleive.
Like I said before I understand that times are tough, we all have tough times.
This guy would say one thing and a week later tell me something entirely different.
What would you have done???
I said he was DICKING me over.
He gave me an excuse for everything. He had so many excuses it was insane. I had no idea what to beleive.
Like I said before I understand that times are tough, we all have tough times.
This guy would say one thing and a week later tell me something entirely different.
What would you have done???
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