got two rockford fosgate punch one series subs in a sealed box....i jus saw a 1200 watt sony xploid amp for less then 200 bux...will this be enough to power these two subs..im new to sound systems...well subs at least...so i was wonderin if this will be enough to power the subs....any help is appreciated....Alex

 

Find out what the amp is truly rated at. What % THD, frequancy response, load. A 1200 watt amp for less then $200, don't think so! In other words, 1200 watts are not 1200 watts in real life.

 

its probably only gonna put out somewhere around 200 w/rms per channel if that. I have the 1000 watt. It doesnt do bad at all but if the speakers can handle and are rated for something different youll probably get the best results looking for whats recommended. yes it will be enough but are you just looking for enough.

 

its garbage. i've got an actual 1200 watt (RMS not max) amp im trying to sell. also thats at 12.5 volts, at 14.4 it puts out close to 1400. 250 shipped if you're interested, i've got plenty of pics.
http://edesignaudio.com/product.php?cid=4&pid=6&cur=USD

heres the link if you want to check it out. its a pretty serious amp, and mine is in brand new condition, was in my car for a few months but there isnt a scratch on it.

 

i have one pushing 2 infinity kappa perfect 10 inch subs. it sounds good to me but im no audio guy this is the first system ive done. it puts out 200 rms to 2 channels and 500 rms to one channel. i have pics of it on my cardomain if you want to check it out.

 

perfects are nice woofers, they'd really come alive with a more potent amp.

 

Specs link.

200 watts RMS x 2 at 4 ohms
250 watts RMS x 2 at 2 ohms
500 watts RMS x 1 at 4 ohms

It's not stable bridged below 4 ohms.

Don't worry about THD because odds are you're not going to be able to hear it unless it's completely horrible especially for a subwoofer amp.

 

gummie what do you think? xplod vs nine.1?

 

NINe.1 hands down. I was in best buy the other day for a CD and I decided to take a walk through their car audio department. It's amazing how much they sell some of that crap for.

 

Search for Sony in this forum. Sony=Crap.

 

I'm going to venture to say something. Sony amps are not necessarily crap. Sure, they are marketed with maximum output but they’re still a decent amp for the money. $179 for a 500x1 amp isn’t that bad in today’s retail world (it is a pretty bad deal when considering buying stuff online). Unlike their speakers/heads, I haven’t heard any stories of a Sony amp dying.

 

I see them all the time. Biggest problem is just bad build quality. Bad solder connections are VARY common, not just at the input jacks but all over the PCB. Keep in mind, and I've warned before, all I see all day is broken crap, makes me a little jaded towards the units I see a lot more of. And I see way to many Sonys.....

 

sony is garbage...i had a 1000 2 channel from them and i hated it. it truly only put out about 165 rms per channel which is complete sh*t. sony is decent "entry level" or low price equipment, but if your looking for good sound go out and spend the money for an audiobahn, kicker, or even kenwood. in the end it will be much more worth it

 

you say it's garbage, then you say it's decent. make up your mind, and no it isn't decent entry level stuff. It's just plain indecent. Sony should appear as ****

 

i KNOW he did not just say to go to audiobahn for good sound....

 

whats wrong with audiobahn? I dont think i have ever heard anything bad about them and my friend had a real nice audiobahn setup. im not saying your wrong just want to know your opinion in why.

 

i have made up my mind.....for my type of use or my interest it GARBAGE...but for someone looking for a starter system its decent...........and I DID say AUDIOBAHN, i have been using it for the past two years as well as a few friends of mine and it sounds great. A friend of mine is currently running two 15" linear compressions with a 1800 watt amp, Diamond audio and kicker midrange with JL amps and it sounds better than any setup i have heard.....Many shops around hear will tell you audiobahn is one of the best selling brands.

 

why? because they sound like ***. the immortals can get sort of loud, but the sound quality still sucks. the amps for the most part dont do their rated power, look stupid, and have a rather high thd (not that you hear much difference in THD with a sub amp)

one of the best selling brands at a local shop, i can buy that. lot of people think bling bling, chrome and flames = teh deebees

if its the best you've heard, you need to hear more

 

so it goes from tryin to help me find a amp...to a little girl fight...can we find me a amp...for like 200 bux...to run these two punch one's...thanx...

 

800 watt orion $165
400 watt PG $180
600 watt PG $166

for starters. I need more info on the subs to be able to more accuratly suggest amps. I need coil count (I think your subs are single voice coil) and coil raiting (ie 2 or 4 ohms).

 

it def wasnt the best ive heard. I just didnt think that they were that bad of a setup.

 

everyone had there OWN opinion...i like the sound i have gotten from using audiobahn...if i was looking to win and SPL comp maybe i would look into something else, but i doubt thats what charged350 is looking to do...i didnt reply to him so i could pick a fight with a know it all.......its my opinion and im sticking to it. THANKS

 

here ya go everyone....it seems like a pretty ****ty sub...but i listen to metal mostly so i dont really care...i jus need some feedback since i can barelly hear myself think over my engine...so heres the specs...hook me up with a cheap amp...but not one that gonna kill itself...thanx...

Details:

* 12" 4-ohm subwoofer
* molded polypropylene woofer cone with foam surround
* frequency response: 20-200 Hz
* power range: 50-150 watts RMS
* peak power handling: 300 watts
* sensitivity: 86 dB
* top-mount depth: 5-3/8"
* sealed box volume: 1.25 cubic feet
* ported box volume: 1.75 cubic feet

 

This is all the info I needed

Most of the amps I linked to are way overkill for your needs. You should be looking at a 600-700 watt amp tops.

You're also looking for an amp that's 2 ohms stable. This is pretty easy to do.

If I were you I would jump all over this orion. Car domain is getting rid of old orion stock so you can save almost $300 by buying this amp ($200 vs the normal $500). Orion makes good stuff and this amp will give each of your subs a nice clean 200 watts at the minimum.

This little bugger will give each of your subs 200 watts for $80

Poke around. Look for something that puts out between 400 and 600 watts @ 2 ohms and you're pretty much good to go.

 

the rockford punch p3001 would be a perfect match. its rated at 300x1 watts rms @ 2ohms. wiring the two 4 ohm subs your have parallel would create a 2 ohm load making a perfect match. i found this on sounddomain for $199. heres the link http://www.cardomain.com/item/ROCP3001

that or u could try the AUDIOBAHN yes AUDIOBAHN a8005dn which sounddomain has on sale for about $290 http://www.cardomain.com/item/ABNA8005DN

 

i would like to get a amp that has a little more power to it....cuz i might get better subs...i will def get better subs that can handle more power this is jus my christmas ift so i got to roll with it here ya know....so a 1000 watt amp so each sub can get 500 watts would be perfect....

 

whats ur price limit....gimme somethin to work with

 

Sounddomain is great in that they have good deals sometimes (see the orion H2 subs and some orion amps they have on a huge sale). For every day shopping their normal prices are comparable to most internet retailers but you can find better deals elsewhere.

If I were you I would seriously consider buying this orion.

Here are a few more that all put out 1,000+ for under $200

http://www.ikesound.com/product-product_id/3918
http://www.ikesound.com/product-product_id/2424

Basically, get DEI amps aka PPI, orion, viper, directed, etc. They will all perform very well.

If you're worried about buying a refurbished amp then you will have to realize that you really can't get a new amp that will really put out 1,000+ watts for under $300 new. Cardomain is perfect proof of this. The cheapest amp that actually puts out 1,000+ power (1,400 or so @ 1 ohm) that I can think of is ED's NINe.1 which costs $350 new.

 

i agree with gummie about the orion. not so sure about it being a true 1200 @ 1ohm but it doesnt sound to bad for the price but i have never used one so idk what the sounds quality is. any amp i would reccomend you around that power range is gunna be aver $300

 

It's an orion so it will hold true to its power rating if not exceed it. The precision power should also do it's rated output. I'm not 100% sure on the viper because I know almost nothing about the company but I assume that it will put out good power based on what other people have said. Maybe not rated but defiantly a decent amount. Then again, it might do rated. I honestly have no idea.

The only reason why these amps fall below $200 is because they’re all refurbished. Ike sound is already a major discounter (they sell on their site at their e-bay prices which are about 1/2 off normal retail). Add that on to the refurbished status of the item and you get an insane discount.

 

sounds like a good deal, definately something to look into

 

id recomend buying a differnt amp... a 1000 sony coudnt power 2 x plode subs rated at 500 each... but then my kenwood 350 over powered them?! yep go with a differnt amp

 

dont mean to come off as a know-it-all, although i realize i can. but seriously, go to any dedicated car audio forum, and make a post asking how audiobahn compares to jl, diamond, soundsplinter, stereo integrity, adire, re, incriminator audio, ascendant, crossfire, any of the companys that offer great sounding products at reasonable prices.

better yet, ride with your friend with the audiobahn system to a high end audio shop, and listen to a properly installed system in a car. (the listening room if theres nothing else)

i would be wary of purchasing an ikesound refurb. the amps case will usually look used, and there have been a lot of horror stories from that place, the customer service is terrible. but, that orion amp or the nine.1 would be great choices, i still have a nine.1 but im hanging onto it for someone

the orion will do well over 1200 watts rms as will the nine.1.

also, i wasn't in any way talking about spl when i was comparing audiobahn to the more notable brands in that price range. i like it loud and all, but im a sound quality guy all the way, as should be evidenced by the gear i run in my car. actually i was referring to the ****-poor listening quality of audiobahn products, i prefer to have tight, accurate sounding music as opposed to loud and distorted. although most of that stuff also owns audiobahn in output levels as well.

 

im not comparing it to jl or n e thing like that nor did i ever post that, i fully understand that there is better sound out there, but for the price audiobahn is not bad at all....he was looking for a resonably priced amp........what you like is what u like, and what i like is what i like

 

yes, but what im saying is there is MUCH better out there for the same amount of money.

 

I bought my head unit from them. It came sealed with all the alpine stickers/seals, etc in perfect shape. It would have been impossible to open the box and put it back together. Deck was 100% new in every way. As for refurb amps, there might be some scuffs/marks on them (remember, they’re customer returns and then they’re rebuilt/repaired and sold again). Keep in mind that you're getting an amazing buy for the money so you really can't complain.

I heard about the horror stories a few months ago about bad sails and what have you and while I think it's a bad thing that it happened it couldn't really have been helped. Their warehouse/whatever was hit hard by both of the summer's major hurricanes (Rita and Katrina). As one can guess this lead to a lot of negative transactions on e-bay. Everything seems to have been cleared up since and is back on track. Read their recent feedback on e-bay and it's all good.

I had no problems with their customer support. I changed an order after paying (upgraded the head to a better model) and had no issues/delays because of it. The only thing that's slightly weird is that they require ID and a copy of the CC e-mailed to them when you buy for the first time so they can prevent CC fraud. I think it’s pretty cool that they do that.

 

having a sealed box w/ stickers doesnt mean anything...one of the places i have dealt with sells refurb and there product are all packaged in the same way. when the amps are refurbed they are actually sent back to the manufaturer. they rebuild it, then re-pack it w/stickers and new packaging. does not mean that it is 100 percent brand new....its the same situtation with cell phones, i broke mine a while back but i have insurance, though the replacement look cosmetically brand new, it was a refurb........so like 1meanGTA said, be carefull what ur purchasing.................

 

Eh. Pretty sure it was new because Ike will usuaully post something saying refurbished in the item description. Regardless, the unit was in perfect shape so even if it is a refurb (doubt it) you couldn't prove it by me.