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Old 12-05-2007, 06:15 PM
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4th gen TA mirrors on my 87 GTA

Wasn't too bad of a job. More involved that the 4th gen wing install, but I'm liking the mirrors!





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Re: 4th gen TA mirrors on my 87 GTA

Love em, how usable are they??? I mean do you still have a decent field of view out of them intalling them up there, and do you have any pictures of the inside. Did you change that filler panel? More details please, this is something i've thought about doing...
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I personally like the stockers better, but they fit alright. Loving the 4th gen spoiler though
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Sorry...Forgot to add my pics of it step by step.

Photobucket of pics

They actually provide s SLIGHTLY bigger field of view, but nothing spectacular. When you see the pics of the outline, I actually had to move it forward almost 1/2". It turned out, the door glass is under the shiny black rubber, by quite a bit.

I'm gonna paint the inside portion black. The white really stands out from the inside, being bright white.

Now I need the 93-97 style Ram Air hood! Donations welcome....

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makes the car look like its goin 80mph sitting still, looks nice, you gonna keep the stock rims?
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here's a question, maybe i just don't see it, is the interior panel to cover those bolts in the 93+ able to be used in anyway, or do you see a way to cover those bolts other than just painting it all black?? J/w.
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makes the car look like its goin 80mph sitting still, looks nice, you gonna keep the stock rims?
The ONLY way I'll give up my crosslace wheels, is that if Oasis goes ahead with building the 17" or 18" crosslace versions.

I'm already running 4 front crosslace wheels, and have 4 reas collecting dust. Anybody need any rear wheels?
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here's a question, maybe i just don't see it, is the interior panel to cover those bolts in the 93+ able to be used in anyway, or do you see a way to cover those bolts other than just painting it all black?? J/w.
Redraif used the 4th gen cover, but had to mod it to fit between the door & the dash pad.

I don't have a cover. I'll just paint the nuts black.

There are supposed to be 3, but during the build, I lost one of the nuts, and I only had 6 (3 per side), so I've gotta go buy another nut. I used nylocks, so they couldn't come loose.

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it looked the same plug to me in the classic industries catalog but do you know if the power windows are plug and play with our thirdgens?
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it looked the same plug to me in the classic industries catalog but do you know if the power windows are plug and play with our thirdgens?
Yes.....and no. Plugs right in, no problem there BUT.....left is right, and right is left. I'm going to rewire the chassis-side plug, to correct that. I think I can unplug the wires from the plug, witch them, and make it look 100% stock, zero wiring cutting.

I just haven't bothered with that yet. I have several projects in the works, so switching the wires, isn't a big priority.
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Love em, how usable are they??? I mean do you still have a decent field of view out of them intalling them up there, and do you have any pictures of the inside. Did you change that filler panel? More details please, this is something i've thought about doing...
Filler panel? If you are referring to the black triangle piece, I used my Dremel to cut the recess for the mirror bracket.

My guess is, you could simply swap the 4th gen mirror mount triangle into a 3rd gen door.

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I've been thing about doing the same with grand prix mirrors.
They're on the daily, and they are huge!
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nicht so gut....they look out of proportion IMO, but the spoiler looks great!
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nicht so gut....they look out of proportion IMO, but the spoiler looks great!
"nicht so gut"?
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I believe "nicht so gut" means not so good.
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Got some pics from today, in good sunlight...





Yes, I need to adjust the alignment a bit on that light huh? Rotate it counter-clockwise.

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Looks like my car,only in white,did my mirrors and spoiler some time ago,looks good man!!!!!
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gonna look great with a ram air hood.
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gonna look great with a ram air hood.
Ya donating to the "Buy Stephen a RA I hood?" Thanks!

I'll trade ya a STS, or 2 or 3, for a RA I hood!
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An STS Turbo system? Ill buy you a ram air 1 hood for that
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An STS Turbo system? Ill buy you a ram air 1 hood for that
If I had a STS Turbo, it would be ON the car, not up for trade. But for the STS tail light controller, we can talk!
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ehhhh, maybe not so much then lol.
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I had to finish up a couple details, so I took care of them today.

The 4th gen power mirrors left & right are switched compared to 3rd gens. Meaning, on the center console controls, left moved it right...right moved it left.

But the plugs themselves are IDENTICAL. So, I pulled the wires from the plug, blue & white, & witched them in the plug. NO cutting. NO splicing. Just changed where the wires connect.

Now, left is left & right is right. Up was already up, down was already down. I had to drill one more big hole, for the wiring to fit through, but it is DONE! Well, I might get some 4th gen bolt covers for the inside, to cover the bolt heads & wiring.


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But for the STS tail light controller, we can talk!

soooooo stephen does that mean that you may have more sts units up for grabs at any time now or in the future because the first time i say that you had thoughs for sale was the day after you sold out...
btw the mirriors are cool
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soooooo stephen does that mean that you may have more sts units up for grabs at any time now or in the future because the first time i say that you had thoughs for sale was the day after you sold out...
btw the mirriors are cool
You haven't seen....TGO thread - STS Round 2 ?

Yeah, we're building more, We're taking pre-pays, minimum 10 to get it started, and we just hit 10. So send in your order! They are going WAY faster than the first time. Again, we're doing a batch of 20, and are half sold-out, as of today, with 4 M.O. in the mail, leaving 6 STS units left..

But chances are, after Dec. 31, I won't betaking Paypal, or adding $2 to cover my Paypal fee.

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Now I need the 93-97 style Ram Air hood! Donations welcome....
I have one of those I have been trying to sell..... I did not want to ship it though, I suppose I could build a crate if you wanted to handle the shipping end.......

I am liking the mirrors on the car though, I may consider doing that when I paint mine
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I have one of those I have been trying to sell..... I did not want to ship it though, I suppose I could build a crate if you wanted to handle the shipping end.......

I am liking the mirrors on the car though, I may consider doing that when I paint mine
Color? Pics? Location?
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It is blue unfortunately and I am in NJ, PM sent
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Blue isn't a problem, I've got a good painter buddy.

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bringing back the thread since its a good mod. I'm thinking of doing this aswell with Grand Prix mirrors...
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now that something you dont see every day. looks good man.
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bringing back the thread since its a good mod. I'm thinking of doing this aswell with Grand Prix mirrors...
I bet those would fit the same way the 4th gen mirrors did. The plug appears the same....Just a matter of rewiring it if needed, but that's not a big deal to do.

If you do it, I wanna see pics!
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yeah, I'm looking for a nice set and some time to do it. I don't think I'm going to bother with wiring. I've lived without it for a couple of years now. I'll post pics when its done...
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Re: 4th gen TA mirrors on my 87 GTA

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bringing back the thread since its a good mod. I'm thinking of doing this aswell with Grand Prix mirrors...
holy crap dude!
You just read my mind!
A buddy of mine at work has a 2000 g/p gt and I was checking his mirrors out
thinking of the same swap!Small world huh?LOL!
Stephen,did you ever complete the 4th gen mirror swap?
If so,hows it holding up?
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holy crap dude!
You just read my mind!
A buddy of mine at work has a 2000 g/p gt and I was checking his mirrors out
thinking of the same swap!Small world huh?LOL!
Stephen,did you ever complete the 4th gen mirror swap?
If so,hows it holding up?
If by complete you mean the interior bolt covers...No. Other than that, everything still works as well as day 1.

It was fully functional when I initially posted this.
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Re: 4th gen TA mirrors on my 87 GTA

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If by complete you mean the interior bolt covers...No. Other than that, everything still works as well as day 1.

It was fully functional when I initially posted this.
haha!so your still staring at those ugly bolts inside the car everytime you turn your head to see whats behind you?
Just messing with ya man,mirrors look sweet. I'm thinking of hitting a local j/y this weekend in search of the g/p mirrors.If I find a set,I'll let ya know the initial fitment and what it will take to make them fit if any mods needed.
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Stephen.....Mod look great. WOW.

Any chance you could take a pic from the front of the car. I want to see how far out the mirrors come from the body.

Thanks
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Stephen.....Mod look great. WOW.

Any chance you could take a pic from the front of the car. I want to see how far out the mirrors come from the body.

Thanks

Photobucket of pics

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Perfect.....thanks
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I dunno, I used to have a '99 Grand Prix GT and those mirrors were big. They may create a dumbo effect on a f-body.
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Those actually look alright. I didnt think the "roundish" 4th gen would fit on a more "edged" 3rd gen, but i guess the mirrors are round to begin with so.....


I can tell the paint doesnt match, but other than that they look like they "belong".

Question: Maybe i missed this i glanced over the thread quickly, but what did you do to the 3rd gen holes in the door? Looks like you plugged em up with something, but it looks pretty flawless.... Just curious.
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Re: 4th gen TA mirrors on my 87 GTA

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Those actually look alright. I didnt think the "roundish" 4th gen would fit on a more "edged" 3rd gen, but i guess the mirrors are round to begin with so.....


I can tell the paint doesnt match, but other than that they look like they "belong".

Question: Maybe i missed this i glanced over the thread quickly, but what did you do to the 3rd gen holes in the door? Looks like you plugged em up with something, but it looks pretty flawless.... Just curious.
Let's see.....

I like the way they mount to the black instead of the metal of the door. Reality is, they are only maybe 1/2 wider, same height, so the proportions are good. They do seem more "angled" & match the 4th gen wing good.

They were red....I did a quickie paint job, to hold them over until a full paint job can be done.

As for the holes in the doors, to mount the stock mirrors....I was hoping nobody would notice..

The stock mirror was busted by hitting a deer. That area of the door has a few waves in it.

It's white decal vinyl, like for signs. That's what I've done for years, so I simply cut off a piece & covered the holes, to prevent rain from getting in. Nobody notices from more than 5ft away.
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Actually i didnt notice, i was just curious because it looks so subtle. More intuition, because i know they were supposed to be there, but i didnt see any holes. almost like the holes were never there. But now that i went back, i was able to see it in ONE of the pix only

Nice work.

Do you plan to weld them up in future or...?
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Yeah....Half of doing them that way was because of the welding needed, the waves needing fixed, the paint looks good in the pics but....

Half because....If I didn't like it, I could put stock mirrors back on.
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Re: 4th gen TA mirrors on my 87 GTA

[QUOTE=Stephen;3892271]Let's see.....

I like the way they mount to the black instead of the metal of the door. Reality is, they are only maybe 1/2 wider, same height, so the proportions are good. They do seem more "angled" & match the 4th gen wing good.

They were red....I did a quickie paint job, to hold them over until a full paint job can be done.

As for the holes in the doors, to mount the stock mirrors....I was hoping nobody would notice..

The stock mirror was busted by hitting a deer. That area of the door has a few waves in it.

thats a pretty good and effective idea for a temp. fix.
Can't even notice it in the pics.All this time,I thought you welded up that area and painted it! Haha!
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I've thought about playing around with faux carbon fiber parts...Like the hood. BUT, it only comes in 15" width vinyl so.....Hoods too wide.
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I've thought about playing around with faux carbon fiber parts...Like the hood. BUT, it only comes in 15" width vinyl so.....Hoods too wide.
kind of a neat idea though.
That would take some impossible seam matching though huh?I mean 15" wide!
Don't think you could pull that off very easily!LOL!
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thanks for fixing all the links, Stephen... one more question: is there metal to drill through in those corner triangles or is it all plastic?

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IIRC, solid plastic but a very thick & dense plastic.

I just drilled the 3 mounting bolt holes, then Dremeled out enough recess for the mount to fit in. Everything is still in place & nothing has fallen out after what? 2 years? 2.5 yrs?
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