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Old 11-02-2002, 04:18 PM
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Installed: Earls brake lines

Just installed Earls brake lines 28A190 and WOW what a difference, firmer brake feel and probable shorter stopping distance. highly recommended over stock.
Old 11-02-2002, 08:47 PM
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Nice to hear the results. I have their lines as well though they've been sitting in my garage for over a year...lol. I need to install them one of these days.
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how much are the lines? are they the braided replacement hoses? thanks.
Old 11-02-2002, 09:23 PM
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They were about 70 bux at the time and they are steel braided replacement hoses.
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Costs me $95 now at Summit, 5 piece set, 2 for front and 3 for the rear including the center piece. East install.
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i hear great things about them..

i most likely have the stock hoses on my car and need to replace them when the next brake job comes along..

so i will buy them for my car....
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I thought only one brake line was required for the rear
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Originally posted by grafx
I thought only one brake line was required for the rear
Two wheels=two brakes=one hose/side

There's one hardline that runs to the rear, then its joined with a flexible rubber hose that goes to a brass distribution block mounted on the rear differential which splits to two hardlines going to either wheel, from there they join with the flexible hoses to the calipers.
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ok I see, but for rear drums it's just one flex line right. hard lines run to each wheel cylinder
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ok I see, but for rear drums it's just one flex line right. hard lines run to each wheel cylinder
thats the way it is on my car, and about every other rear drum vehicle i have ever worked on.
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For the 4 wheel disc cars they have a hose for each wheel plus the middle hose with the fluid connection for the hard lines.
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Originally posted by Benny
Costs me $95 now at Summit, 5 piece set, 2 for front and 3 for the rear including the center piece. East install.
You wouldn't happen to have a part # would you? So I can bookmark it. I've only seen the 3 piece ones.
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Please note that these WILL NOT, in themselves, give you a shorter stopping distance. They flex less (less stretch) so you will probably feel a firmer pedal...but that's going to take a really well trained foot.

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The part number is ERL-28A190 Hyperfirm Chevy Camaro brake hose kit for 4 wheel disc brakes. These things are far superior to the crapy rubber ones but they are pricey.
Old 11-05-2002, 04:46 PM
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These brake lines are very very good. I had them in my car. Sadly only like 2 days of having them a lady smashed into me. And one of htem broke!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! (her car hit my rim area bending my spindle, control arm, and brake line.)
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on the 9-bolt that i installed on my car, only one of the rear calipers had a rubber line to it. the other caliper was hard lined.

wierd huh?
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Car: 1984 Z28 Hardtop
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Axle/Gears: 3.54 Dana 44
Originally posted by Ace_Murdock
on the 9-bolt that i installed on my car, only one of the rear calipers had a rubber line to it. the other caliper was hard lined.
If I'm not mistaken, my Dana 44 is the same way.
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Hey!
I've got Russel's braided lines on my car, I have the fronts installed, and I like the quality and fit of them very much, I haven't done the rear yet, but I do know that I only have one hose for the rear, while when I look over the lines out back I have the flex hose joining the main line to the junction block on the rear end and then I also have a flex line going to one of my rear calipers. It seems odd to me that I only have a flex line to one of the calipers, and a hard line to the other one, but what I am wondering is if anybody knows if I can get just the rear flex line by itself (the one to the caliper). Does Earl's have hoses available by length? Anyway, any suggestions are welcome!

Thanks!

-Paul
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both my rears have a hard line running to them.. its so annoying to change the rear pads...
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yeah, i really loved my kit; just sold my fronts for an upgrade.
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Originally posted by clemsparks
Please note that these WILL NOT, in themselves, give you a shorter stopping distance. They flex less (less stretch) so you will probably feel a firmer pedal...but that's going to take a really well trained foot.

Clem
In the catalog it says that installing these lines on a mustang shortened the stopping distance on a mustang by 18 feet.
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Originally posted by quadgoat
Hey!
I've got Russel's braided lines on my car, I have the fronts installed, and I like the quality and fit of them very much, I haven't done the rear yet, but I do know that I only have one hose for the rear, while when I look over the lines out back I have the flex hose joining the main line to the junction block on the rear end and then I also have a flex line going to one of my rear calipers. It seems odd to me that I only have a flex line to one of the calipers, and a hard line to the other one, but what I am wondering is if anybody knows if I can get just the rear flex line by itself (the one to the caliper). Does Earl's have hoses available by length? Anyway, any suggestions are welcome!

Thanks!

-Paul
Keep an eye on those Russell lines. Especially the junction block on the rear line. If it's brass, it's prone to failure. Believe me, I know first hand.

As for the passenger side caliper flex line, I don't think anyone makes it. I had a custom one made using the factory fittings.
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Originally posted by BretD 88GTA
Keep an eye on those Russell lines.
I'm keeping very quiet on this subject this time I'm trying to keep this screen name for a record 2 months this time.
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Originally posted by AFreaknGoodTme
I'm keeping very quiet on this subject this time I'm trying to keep this screen name for a record 2 months this time.
Sounds like you're just as unhappy with Russell Performance as I am.
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Originally posted by BretD 88GTA
Sounds like you're just as unhappy with Russell Performance as I am.
Last time I tired to warn someone about Russells, we got in a debate and ended up getting banned from this site.
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Ok,
Thanks for the thoughts....I've heard bad stuff about Russel's too, unfortunatley it was after I bought mine I intend to keep a close eye on them, but I was very satisfied with the fronts, and they seemed to be nice pieces. I will look the rear over before I install it, and maybe I'll just bite the bullet and spend the extra $$ to buy an Earl's line for the back. I dunno. Of course it was a local speed shop that got me the Russel's lines, and after I read some bad stuff about them on here I asked the shop (a friend of mine works there) and they said they've never had a problem with them, so we'll see Thanks for the advice though guys, no need to worry about a fight over Russel's vs. Earl's I won't start anything if you dont

Thanks,

Paul
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