User83

1991 Chevrolet Camaro Rs/Z28 Clone


305 tbi v8, 5 spd manual transmission. Est.330hp,very fast car! Too much invested and to list. Runs and drives excellent,good clutch..needs body work and some paint.Otherwise Turn-Key.90,000 miles on h.o. motor 155,000 on the rest of the car.
Will consider any/and all Reasonable offers.
Title work Must be done for a clean title*****
NOT A SCAM/sold as is.
Have paperwork for application of title.
Have all receipts/owners manual.
Plus Extra parts.
.No you can't test drive it, no third person party activity"Mechanic/family/tire kickers"
No excessive questioning ! Video and description is cut and dry. Thank you for looking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6pZrEti4ro
I.E. The car is currently in the body shop getting fresh paint put on the front bumper,chin spoiler,and skirts! 5250$

BlueZee28

iTrader: (30)

I hope this isn't excessive questioning, but can you tell us what was done to the 305TBI that pushed it to 330hp? Because bone stock they are about 205hp. The reason I ask is because a 330hp Camaro would not get beaten by a bone stock N/A '87 Supra...I saw your YouTube videos.


My suggestion to you is to not b.s. when you're trying to sell a car on this forum. We're not stupid, we know what 330hp is. You can't just throw out any number when trying to sell a car, especially when your car appears to be stock.

User83

Yeah you are being excessive and if you read right you will answer your own questions. No BS just fact. Thanks for the bother :'(

oscarsrs

I dont think you saw the hole video, you missed the stickers....thats where the horsepower comes from

joeblue83

iTrader: (8)

If I were going to buy a car, I would want to test drive it. How does the video answer all questions. You took more time videoing the stickers than what is under the hood. What have you got done to the motor.....ie what heads, cam, intake, exhaust etc. Sounds stock to me. And do you have a dyno sheet to prove 330 hp. Cause it don't sound like it. Sounds like a scam to me. Your not going to fool people on this board!

BlueZee28

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Just to be sure, I re-read the whole post, and read it again...so that makes 3 times I've read it now...and it still says estimated horsepower 330. It still doesn't say any mods or dyno sheets proving such a bold claim. Am I missing something?

Oh and by the way, when you say that you won't let potential buyers let a mechanic look at it, that right there throws up a red flag that something is wrong with the car. Good luck on getting even half your asking price.

Carlos773

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Haha damm this thread made my day Zee.

Man is there something horribly wrong here. First off, did you tape shut the holes for the original RS spoiler?

When you are asking what you are and are saying you cant test drive it and or check it out more, the red flag is raised. Go look around for Cams/Birds being sold at that price range and compare them to yours. Atleast show a better video of the car, but all I saw was some young kid throwing things around and not backing them up. Jesus I wish I lived near it just to come see it from a block away since thats probably the safe distance for the buyer.

BlueZee28

iTrader: (30)

This is him racing his brother's '87 naturally aspirated Toyota Supra....in a "330hp" 305TBI Camaro, and getting beat.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7eGn...eature=related

zachkuby87

video suggest to bone stock maybe even less cause i know for a fact i can get off the line way harder than that in my bone stock 85 z/28

Carlos773

iTrader: (3)

Haha wow.

I really think hes just telling us what he belives the car has and what its worth to him, since ived seen alot of that. I am still amazed though at his asking price and the shape of the car, maybe even my Cam is worth $4k+

BlueZee28

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I can understand if he totally has no clue about anything about the car or how fast it is in the real world if all he ever does is hang out with teenagers of comparable car knowledge, but seriously...don't get on here and tell us it has 330hp and when you get called out on it expect for your word to hold up just because that's what you said it is. There are so many people on this site that really know their crap, and you're not going to fool anyone. If you say it has 330hp it better have 330hp. That car you are selling is a bone stock 305TBI I am willing to bet my future children on it.

zachkuby87

I WANT SOME OF WHAT YOUR SMOKIN!!!!
good luck you wont even get 3000 here especially with that attitude.. no test drives no mechanics? do you really expect to have someone just walk up be like hey that sounds its got 330 hp and i wanna pay you 5 grand of my hard earned money for it without a test drive or even looking at it i mean i saw the video on youtube so it must run good right?

Bustionironi

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LMFAO! It doesn't even have a clean title.... I don't c this going for more then $1k.

zachkuby87

im not trying to be an a*shole but you have to be a little more descriptive other than a video of u staring at stickers for 3 minutes. those stickers dont really tells us anything other than you like stickers.my bros camaro has msd stickers and spintech stickers on it and there the stickers that came with parts for my car. i highly doubt anyone will buy it without a test drive and a thorough exam by there mechanic hell i know these cars pretty well and i wont buy one without having a more knowledgable person with me to check it out and also drive it for themselves...look all im saying is post pics of mods and some specs to back up your 330hp maybe open the hood for the next vid and someone might buy it... my best guess is you belong in a r*cer and like bluezee previously stated those claims may work at home with friends but on here there are A LOT of guys that know there **** and are gonna call your bluff everytime so when you make claims that your car has a 330hp 305 tbi you sure as hell better be able to show proof.... p.s. stickers dont count as proof...

zachkuby87

i cant stop coming back to this thread it should be locked and he should be banned

Carlos773

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Yep.

Keep the car on craigslist or ebay, your not gonna fool anyone on here.

MTXaudioSYSTM

lmaooooooooooooo

CamKid1992

lmao i was just thinking this

CamaroIROC88350

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I saw the seller's description up top and then it said 305 TBI and estimated 330HP. Then I said to myself, huh? He must have done alot of work to get a weak 305 to 330 horses. That's what a LS1 SS Camaro has stock (or is it 320?) but either way a car with 330 horses is going to pull off the line WAY faster than that crap I saw against a N/A Supra!

MTXaudioSYSTM

man if he thinks thats fast he would cream in his shorts to ride in my mid 13sec bird

TADailyDriver

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Its all stock as you can tell by the exhaust clip in the video, and did anyone catch all the rust on the right rear wheel well??? alot of cancer on a car for 5k........ what a joke, id have a better chance selling my 92 rs roller body for 1k then he will selling his running hahaha.....

joeblue83

iTrader: (8)

I think he is to ashamed to post back on this thread.

MTXaudioSYSTM

haha yeah i was like holy rust batman!

MTXaudioSYSTM

i posted up on his video on youtube where now hes claiming 350hp

CamaroIROC88350

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I posted a comment on his video too. I just think to claim 330 on here and then go claim 350 on a video is outrageous without any kind of proof. I mean, show us a dyno, a list of mods, or at least race a car with 330 horses and beat or tie with him and then I will believe you have equal amount or more.

Jason1313

iTrader: (3)

Wow, 5k for a rusty 91 RS with questionable hp and an *** for a seller. I should be able to sale my 92 RS with no rust, factory verified 170 hp for 10k, shouldn't I. I'll even let you test drive it, oh yeah, you can ask questions too. Who's first in line.

Fionnla

I'm probably one the more old conservative members on this site and don't like to tell someone he is full of crap but to make 330 HP TBI 305 is sort of streching it a bit to say the least. He would have to have had one of the TBI experts to get it running must less running on the street real good like he says, and I doubt he is one.
I'm surely no expert but when I first put the GM 350 H.O. 330 Vortec in my Camaro I tried to set it up with the TBI. CFM-Tech Throttle Body, big injectors, Headers, Performance exhaust, Airgap intake with spacer, MSD, Blab, Blab, Blab, and had a guy that knew what he was doing tune it and it ran ok but never got it right. Best on a dyno was 218 HP at the wheels, which is about 270 HP that we all talk about. Maybe he had someone who knew how to tune it better. But a 305, Pleaseeeee. I can say one thing for sure, no Supra would have kicked my Camaro's butt even with the TBI. It ran quick but it runs a lot faster with the Carb setup on it now.
That my song and I'm sticking to it.

TADailyDriver

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Ya i saw that and Ill go drag him down into the dirt on that video later, dont have time now as Im at work haha.

CamaroIROC88350

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He told me on youtube it's his prerogative to withhold information.

I told him his attitude sucks and that nobody in their right mind who likes 3rd Gen's will buy his rusty piece of junk with no 330 (hold up, 350 horsepower?) horses. Get real.

CamaroIROC88350

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If you're going to sell a car like this, you have to be honest about it. For example, if you read my for sale ad you'll see that I note what's wrong with it and what's not. There's way more good than bad about my car but would I tell potential buyers that it's got 400 horsepower & it'll eat a Cobra Terminator alive, no. I'd be lying then. So we gotta have some ethics here and telling others that you don't want no one to basically question your for sale ad is ridiculous. People like me want to spend our money on things that are worth buying. I am open to buying a car that has some problems just so long as it's driveable and as long as I can fix some of it myself & get the rest done cheap.

Honesty is the best policy on here and that goes for everywhere else in life too. When you sell a car you want to do your best to get someone to buy it but at the same time you don't need to sound like sneaky oil's salesman either.

User83

YEAH EVERYONE KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT NOTHING WHY DON'T U ALL JUST GET A LIFE

Carlos773

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Haha this thread needs to be stickied and retitled ''How not to sell a car''.

Here is the video since he got burned into the ground by the good folks on here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6pZrEti4ro

Ill be on the lookout on other forums I lurk, but I am sure if he did, their having as much of a laugh as we are.

Yea.. Go back to playing need for speed.

BlueZee28

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Here's an idea. Why don't you learn a thing or two about how much money and work it takes to make a 330hp 305ci TBI before you randomly pick a HP number out of the sky. Shoot...I think I'm gonna sell 3800series Grand Prix and tell everyone it's got like 500hp because I can DEFINITELY beat a 305TBI Camaro

j88l98irocz

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LMFAO!

CamaroIROC88350

iTrader: (1)

He disabled the comments, lol. He MUST NOT want to sell his car that badly.

CamaroIROC88350

iTrader: (1)

I concur with you on that, lol.

BlueZee28

iTrader: (30)

Look at the original post...owned. Haha