blaze1

Tell me if this is a good deal and what would you change about it.


Lanzar MP3 Unit $140

http://www.cardiscountstereos.com/Ca...+%23=VBD1600MP

pioneer 4*6 $38

http://www.cardiscountstereos.com/Ca...ct+%23=TSG4647

pioneer 6*9 $80

http://www.cardiscountstereos.com/Ca...ct+%23=TSG4647

2 Performance teknique 12" subs $120

http://www.cardiscountstereos.com/Ca...t+%23=ICBM5612

Boss 1600 watt amplifier $150

http://www.cardiscountstereos.com/Ca...duct+%23=R1035

I just want a nice clean sound with a little bump on it. And another question would a to 4ohm sub get the max power of a 2ohm amp?

Thanks and *** bless

napalmdemos

For 500 bucks I think I could find a better setup than that.

2 dope

ditch the lanzar and the subs and the boss amp, there are better amps than that etc. Ive been reading alot on this site and its safe to say stick with the better known brands you will be happier with them in the end.

blaze1

Im trying to do that but thats all that web site sells and they have the best prices. Thats why i got those pioneers. I think i will get some pioneer subs to but i dont know about the amp yet. What about Pyle?

lykan

Looks Like you're bargain hunting, check out Ebay for sure. If you don't like the auction deal, click on the buy it now tab that way you get an outright price. I'm not one for fighting for an item I might not get.

Many use the buy it now as bascically a way of setting up a store front. Make sure they have good feedback, or you might get burnt.

You can also check out used amps/subs/decks online too.

You may not get the features that you want, but you're better off to by a decent condition used "brand name" than you are to buy a brand new "off name"

I bought a fosgate 120a2 amp for my mids and highs, that's only 120 wattsx2. It was also only supposed to run at 4ohms. Well , my sub amp blew (cheesey) so I stuck the fosgate back there, and it puts out more watts than my so called 400x2 cheese amp. Its clean, it's clear and pushed 2 12" kenwoods.

If you really can't help but go with a off name, or a cheaper brand, JVC is a decent unit, with decent sound quality. I have alos never had a problem with the newer JVC"s skipping.
These are all from personal experience, your milegae may vary, and your opinon, I by no means am an expert.

"Cheese names"
Boss
Pyle
Pyramid
Legacy
rockwood
jensen
rampage
audiovox (one of the better cheesey)
DHD (one of the better cheesey)
Clarion (one of the better cheesey)JVC
blaupunkt
Crunch
Ample


Some of the best
Alpine
pioneer
sony(lots of show not much go)
Kenwood
Rockford fosgate
Hi-fonics
kicker
soundstream
Orion (sweet high end stuff)
Cerwin vega (awesome wquality speakers)

If I left any good stuff out, post it up. I am about to buy a new head unit, my boy broke my face . If anythign came along since my last buy I'd sure like to have a look at it.

These are just suggestions, some people may have had some really good experiences with some of the stuff I listed as cheesey. I would like to hear what models/brand it was if you did, Im always looking for discount stuff that erforms better than expected..

My biggest advice. Once you find a unit/amp/etc. Search, search, andsearch again for the lowest price. The internet is really competetive. You can find stuff about 1/2 price on the net VS going into your local shop.

2 dope

i myself would not consider Jensen or Clarion as cheese. I had dual 10s in a bandpass and it rocked good JXS10?. My HU is a Clarion, im to lazy to read the model # as im tired lol I had pyramid stuff before, i ended up hooking them up to my turntables and they still suck. As fae as tghe rest of the lsit ya pretty much crappy reviews on this site. LOL im one of the few here that like Jensen

blaze1

Dang lykan tha post should be a permenate one on the board u answerd all my questions and if they keep it on it will answer alot of other peoples to. Thanks for the help , i hope the moderaters listin to what im saying

82firebird

I certainly wouldnt consider Clarion or JVC cheese at all. From my own experience, they both make quality products. If anything, Sony should be on that 'cheese' list.

jiggajiveturkey

I can testify to the cheesiness of Jensen!

Try www.ubid.com for speakers, subs, and amps. They are factory direct remanufactured and come with warranties.

Also if you put some $ into the 6*9's you would be supprised how much bass you can get outta them.

http://www.circuitcity.com/detail.js...rk_3&oid=68326

Not sure what kinda bump you are looking for but I was shocked at the amout of bass I got outta the alpines.

napalmdemos

How is blaupunkt considered cheese?
I agree on putting sony in the cheese list, I would buy Jensen before I bought sony.


Go with the pioneer subs, I have one 10 inch 400watt impp sub and it pounds pretty good for me.

lykan

Clarion works, so does JVC.. I had a decent JVC for about 3 months in my car. It worked ok but the sound qaulity wasn there for me ?

I bought two clarion units for my wifes car, they skip, and seem to need to be cleaned all the time. They are old units tho, they might have improved over the last few years...

What kind of experiences have you had with Sony? I would like to know what to avoid

Jose'sRedTA

Alpine 6*9's kicks some serious ***...JL is high quality superior sounding stuff...eclipse is awesome **** too...but for the money and if your a cheap high school student like me go with the alpines...

TomP

If you get a BOSS amp, don't buy Pioneer speakers. The distortion outta that Boss amp and Lanzar headunit will fry your expensive Pioneer speakers, and not only will you eventually upgrade to a "real" name amp and head unit, you'll also have to replace the speakers.

I've heard some blue dot (what Blaupunkt means in German) head units before, and had a small blaupunkt amp, they always sounded clean.

What's your setup now, Blade1? All stock? If so, a good headunit, with some good speakers, one 10" sub, and a single bass amplifier would do you good for the money. Don't go after a high power ("1000 watt amp for $150") amp- go after a high quality amp ("100 watt for $150").

Some recommendations...

Amp: Going by Crutchfield.com prices- <a href="http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-4vOicXaZ8Sw/ProdView.asp?I=500MRPT220" target="newwin">Alpine MRP-220, $120</a> or <a href="http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-4vOicXaZ8Sw/ProdView.asp?I=113KAC5201" target="newwin">Kenwood KAC-5201, $120 </a>

Head unit: Make sure it has at LEAST two sets of "preamp outputs". This allows for adding a front/rear speaker amp and letting you still use your fader. Unless of course you want to buy another head unit in a couple years! Also make sure it has "decent" power- head units that claim "50x4" are really only giving you about 20x4, but still, this way, you can get away without buying an amp for your inside speakers.

Sub: I've heard amazing bass come from a single 10" sub in a sealed enclosure. If you don't throw a ton of wattage at two 12 inch subs, then the bass won't drown out your radio-powered speakers.

Speakers: Spending about $40-$50/pair would be great... again, stick with good brands, like Kenwood or Pioneer or Blaupunkt, or etc. Don't be too concerned about buying a "300 watt" pair over a "50 watt" pair... chances are, the 50 watt pair will be better (and again, that goes with choosing a better brand name over something like Pyramid).

[edit] Amp wiring kit: Remember that a cheap amp wiring kit comes with a cheap patch cord (aka "RCA cord"). And a cheap patch cord will make your system sound like crap. Spend at least $30 on a 16 foot patch cord. Sometimes it's cheaper to buy an amp wiring kit for the power wire, and to throw away the cheap patch cord that the kit comes with.

lykan

I have had a blaupunkt detachable face, and my friend had one. Although the sound qulaity was there, at the tiem (a year or two ago)

The face was prone to easy breakage, and the audio controls (bass treble etc) were really lacking in both functionality, and eas of use.

A good sounding wuality deck with no skip is great, but if the face breaks easy, it doesn't work well for me. Granted I not ewasy on the faces, probably my problem with them.

I did have a pair of four inch speakers for vocals i my doors, they sounded great, and preally pushed out the voice/mids until I blew em . Then again I was running some good high powered wattage to em.. anything overpowered long enough evewn clean will cook.

blaze1

My system is stock to the bone. Thats why a got the car ever thing was orignal. Im going cheap but not that cheap i need something that will last and sound clean. And im ditching every thing in my first post exept for the speakers, I have to have a nice set of pioneer or alpine speakers. Im very spectical on the subs and amp right nowbut i will get back to that later.

Thanks for the help

MCl Blaze

lykan

Somethign I dont know about, pheonix go9ld, how are those amplifiers? Do they produce the wattage they say they do?

2 dope

alot of the cheap amps claim low Harmonic distortion, so how can they cause distortion? Or is it just a claim?

2 dope

Jensen may sell a bit cheaper but i can atest to the bass that i got from them and they didnt fry at all.

lykan

MA audio whats that stuff sound like anyone?

TomP

Yep, it's just a claim. The thing is, the amps are made cheaply- cheap circuit boards, low-grade chips, weak power supplies with not enough capacitors, etc. Those amps will sound great at low volume- but push them too hard, and all their weak points will come out- and that's where the distortion comes from. Chips get hot, which heats up the circuit boards (and messes up the cheap traces and bad soldering joints). The power supply "fails" to keep voltage at it's rails, and with the voltage drop, the chips can't produce clean output anymore. The louder the volume, the more voltage drop, the more the chips heat up, the worse the distortion...