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Old 08-05-2004, 12:18 AM
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Help me out..Im a retard.

Ok, I have a AudioBahn 800x2 amp.
I have 2 Kove Audio subs, 2ohms each.
I have the subs run in parralel. I have a wire running from positive to the negative..and a positive hooked up to the positive terminal..and a negative hooked up on the negitive terminal. I have this done to both subs. I think its correct. But, this amp will barely push those subs. Even when I hook up one at a time and bridge it. Im really pissed off..and I dont know what the problem is. Thanks for the help in advance.
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audiobahn sucks. But... it should still get pretty loud with that setup.

Your description of how you wired it isn't clear to me.

First of all, I'm relatively confident that an audiobahn would go up in flames if it was pushing a 1 ohm load, so you need to wire those koves in series to give the amp a 4 ohm load.

This picture shows how to series-wire a DVC sub. Series wiring 2 single-coil subs is exactly the same:
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Ok, I have a AudioBahn 800x2 amp.
I have 2 Kove Audio subs, 2ohms each.
I have the subs run in parralel. I have a wire running from positive to the negative..and a positive hooked up to the positive terminal..and a negative hooked up on the negitive terminal. I have this done to both subs. I think its correct. But, this amp will barely push those subs. Even when I hook up one at a time and bridge it. Im really pissed off..and I dont know what the problem is. Thanks for the help in advance.
In a parallel connection there should be no pos. to neg. connections anywhere. Those type of connections only occur in series connections. It sounds as if you may have things wired wrong. I had a similar problem with audiobahn equip. about 3 years ago. My problem was that the subs worked lousy when mounted magnet out. Once I mounted them regular instead of extra ***** they worked fine.
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Originally posted by Jim85IROC
audiobahn sucks. But... it should still get pretty loud with that setup.

Your description of how you wired it isn't clear to me.

First of all, I'm relatively confident that an audiobahn would go up in flames if it was pushing a 1 ohm load, so you need to wire those koves in series to give the amp a 4 ohm load.

This picture shows how to series-wire a DVC sub. Series wiring 2 single-coil subs is exactly the same:
Ok, thats the first way I had the subs ran. I had it A+ and A-. Then B+ and B- because I was running both subs. But, One sub hit hard..while the other just barely moved.
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First of all, I'm relatively confident that an audiobahn would go up in flames if it was pushing a 1 ohm load
In Fact most AudioBahn Amps are one Ohm Stable, they sound like *** but they are stable with low impedance
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Which subs do you have?
RMS?
DVC?
2ohm?
4 ohm?

Try this wiring, This will give you a 2 ohm load with dual 2 ohm Voice coils.

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Originally posted by SS-84
Which subs do you have?
RMS?
DVC?
2ohm?
4 ohm?

Try this wiring, This will give you a 2 ohm load with dual 2 ohm Voice coils.
Thank you very much. They are Kove Amrageddons. Dual Voice coil 2ohm subs.
Thanks for the help man.
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Originally posted by 87irocz350
Thank you very much. They are Kove Amrageddons. Dual Voice coil 2ohm subs.
Thanks for the help man.
If you said in the first place that the subs were DVC, you could have gotten the help you needed 4 days ago.
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Thanks for the help.
They run just fine now..but, that amp heats up pretty quick.
Can anyone suggest a goon Mono block amp with enough power to run both of these big boys? For around..$300-400?
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find a used MTX 81000D, or a 1501D.
a JBL BP1200 would work,

Cadence makes a couple high current amps that would probably work for you.

that's about all i can think of on your budget.


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What is the model number of your AMP?
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Originally posted by SS-84
What is the model number of your AMP?
A8002T
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That amp is rated at:
200w x 2 @ 4 ohm
400w x 2 @ 2 ohm
800w x 1 @ 4 ohm


For that amp, and dual 2 ohm voice coils
you have to wire the speakers to 4 ohm each,like the pic that Jim85IROC posted, then each speaker would hook up to a channel of the amp. You will only get 200w per speaker.

You need an amp that when bridged will handle a 2 ohm load.

Do NOT wire them the way the pic that I posted shows, you would then be trying to bridge the amp to a 2 ohm load and it will overheat.

Again, wire each sub for a 4 ohm load, then each sub to a channel on the amp. Or do not play them until you get a new amp.


What is the model number of the subs?
Or what series and size of Armageddon subs are they?
With out this info, we can not recommend a proper amp.
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They Are Kove Armageddon Z's.
2ohm. Dual voice coil. 600w rms each.

Yea, I have them wired the way you show me. The amp heats up pretty fast. Like I said..I just need a good mono block.
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ZM12-D2
dual 2 ohm Voice coils
600wRMS

Wire each sub this way. Connect each sub to its own channel on the AudioBahn amp



200wRMS per sub


For a new amp:
If your enclosure is sealed, this is a good buy:
http://www.cardomain.com/item/JBLBP12001

If your enclosure is ported look at this:
http://www.cardomain.com/item/JBLGTO12011
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thanks bro. Both amps look pretty sweet
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yeah most AB class amps can only do a bridged 4ohm load... just use some common sense... if you are getting more watts than the amp is rated for, then you are running the ohm's too low
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Ok guys..I got a new amp. I got my hands on at MTX 8100..I think thats the model #. Its a mono block. I picked it up for $350 in good condition. Do you think this will be a good amp?
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the 8100D is a great amp.

that is a pretty good price for it.

make sure and run 0 gauge to it.


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Originally posted by SS-84
In Fact most AudioBahn Amps are one Ohm Stable, they sound like *** but they are stable with low impedance
Alright, Round two.

Like I said..I bought a MTX 81000D. I kept the subs wired this way..but, when I hooked them up to this amp..Nothing. Once again I had to turn up the gain all the way just to get alittle sound to come from them. I am running the amp off 4awg wire. I know it needs 0awg..but, it should be hitting harder than what it is. Do I need to wire the subs another way..again.
Guys..thanks for putting up with me. I've had about 6 systems..and I've never had these kind of problems.
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uh... I doubt the amp NEEDs 0 awg... 4 gauge wire should be fine for 1000d... obviously 0 guage wouldn't hurt but 4 guage is usually good up to around 1300 watts total combined power...
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that 8100d is not a very efficient amp.

are you sure you have your subs wired series/parrallel?


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I went back through..rewired everything..and...
THEY WORK!
They sound really good with this amp. I dont have them in a car..so I just ran them in my box on my garage floor..Even with my 200lb friend standing on top of the box..they still hoped across the floor..
Thanks to everyone who posted here and helped me.
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