Newdude

I just swapped in a stock 350 TBI to replace my 305, now I'm attempting to burn a chip with a standard ANLU bin just so I can throw it on and start figuring out how to tune it. I bought a G2 adapter, a ZIF socket, 2 SST27SF512 chips, and the burn2 from Moates and I thought the hard part was going to be actually tuning the bin so that its running good. Turns out I cant even properly program a chip. I've tried both chips, erased chip, blank check, load bin make sure the addresses were correct and then verified them. All goes well, at least from what I see, up until I try and verify the chip then it says verification failed (not matched). so I read the chip and press edit buffer to see if it programmed at all, the first few lines are just a bunch of FF then at line 1000 it goes to 00. If anyone could point me in the right direction that would be awesome, I really didn't think it'd be so complicated right off the bat. Oh and one more thing, from my understanding when the SES light is blinking rapidly that's limp home mode (please let me know if I'm wrong) and a pure solid SES is a bad ecm, my SES stays lit no blink with key on engine off and doesn't read codes if I put a paperclip in, however if I take the chip out it will start reading codes. Does that sound like a bad ecm or could it just be because the prom is completely wrong. Also thanks in advance for any help.

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Newdude

Yes I have the chip address set at F000 - FFFF and buffer set at 00000 - 0FFF

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Newdude

Just put the old 2732 and I'm not entirely sure if it's supposed to be near the metal handle or further so I tried it both ways when it's close to the handle solid SES, when its further from it the SES blinks rapidly. And the notch is facing the metal handle just like the moates instructions.

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Newdude

Damn that sucks, but thank you so much for the help. Could you think of any reason I cant burn a prom onto the chips though. I have a burn 2 I have tunerpro rt I have flash n burn and whenever I hit program It says it successful but then i got to verify it and the flash n burn software says that the chip failed and doesnt match the prom.

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Newdude

Ok well you helped a ton already thank you so much. I'll email moates and hopefully get that figured out.

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Newdude

Yesterday morning they asked me to send the bin that I'm using and then said it sounds like a bad burner or a software glitch. Then asked if I went to there support channel. Sent them the bin and told them I've already gone through all the articles I could find on their website. Now I'm just waiting for another reply.

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Newdude

Hopefully. I'll post what it was once I do get a resolution that way if anyone else has a burner that isnt verifying or that isnt programming a chip correctly they'll hopefully find my post and be able to resolve their problem to.

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A couple things to note about getting started. You have to orient the chip correctly in the Burn2. The chip should be all the way at the bottom leaving a few slots empty up toward the top. The little notch in the chip should be facing upwards. Putting your PROM into the socket backwards will also make it go into limp home mode and make the lights flicker. My Burn1 is a little finicky. Sometimes it won't verify and I'll have to unplug everything and restart the burning software.

Where did you get the BIN image from?

Here are some BINS from the repository:
http://gearhead-efi.com/gearhead-efi/bin/

You can test to see if it's the Burn2 here:
http://support.moates.net/troubleshooting-burn1burn2/

Newdude

Yeah I was told that I put the chips in wrong and that because of that the chips are now bad. So I ordered 2 new chips and they were supposed to be delivered yesterday but USPS wasn't able to drop them off on time, so I wasn't able to check if it was the chips. If it's not the chips then support said to contact them again and we were going to check if it was the burner. Also I've already tried a lot of the support troubleshooting. I'll let you guys know tomorrow once I try the new chips.

Newdude

So I just got my 2 chips, I programed 1 of them and verified it was successful. I put it in my new ecm and the SES is solid no blink. When I took it out the SES light started blinking fast. I took the chip back to the burner 2 and read it and the portion that had all the coding and what not had been wiped like my other 2 chips, I know I put it in the right way and everything so what else could cause this?

Lucid

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I hope you are inserting and removing the chips with the ignition key off. Insert that Prom into the burn2, load up the bin you programmed it with and click verify to see if it's truly erased like you said. It should match. If not, wipe it, program it again and verify the burn. I take my burn2 with me to the car with the chip still attached. I only remove it right before putting it in the ecm. I also put it in an antistatic sleeve. Those chips are very sensitive to static discharges. I killed one during a car meet when I pulled it out for a friend to dump my tune.

Newdude

I am, when i insert that chip into the burn 2 to erase and reprogram it, it just keeps failing the verification so I'm thinking the chip is done for. I'm also thinking that my car is whats killing it. Maybe one of the grounds I'm using is bad and that's whats killing the chips. I'm pretty bad when it comes to electrical things, so if that doesn't sound right please do correct me.

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Newdude

It was the passenger side rear ground. Tightened it up and the SES light blinked and it's running much better

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Newdude

So far I've been running the anlu just fine on the sst, I'm sure if I bought an aldl cable and started actually tuning it, that it'd run alot better but as it is it's running pretty good. Sorry for such a late reply I'm currently trying to put new weatherstripping in so that is not raining in the car lol. But onto my main point back here it was definitely just the ground behing the passenger side head messing up the chips when I put them in the car, hopefully this helps someone out there.