89fbrestor

ok some of you might have seen my paint thread i did for this car and I've gone back and forth on if i wanted to keep it.... I'm keeping it i think lol anyway finally to the point of pulling the motor and getting the one I'm building in it. I'll admit I'm not a gear head but i like trying to do things like this. so please don't be to rough on me I'll try not to ask the really really dumb q's just the dumb and not so dumb ones. to start iv never pulled a motor before. i am mechanically inclined and have every tool under the sun just never did this. i have installed one with help(he worked and i watched) lol

i have it all disconnected(I THINK) motor mounts, flywheel(3bolts) trans to motor(5 bolts) and all the hoses and wires. where i'm nervous now is getting the motor and trans to seperate so i can lift. i lift it up and it comes apart about 3/8's and the trans hits the car at the top. is this just a matter of it popping apart and i'm being to careful. I'm going very slow with this and just trying to do it right and not break anything. even bought a cherry picker that WONT GO IN FAR ENOUGH grrr that really sucked lol so now I'm using a come along. anyway please chime in.

thank you

89fbrestor

couple more pics just you guys get an idea what and how i'm working with this.

MetallicaWolfe

I'm sorry cant help you on this but thats a nice looking camao you have there ;D

89fbrestor

no one? bueller bueller bueller

Air_Adam

If what you meant was that the trans and engine split apart about 3/8" then likely whats happening is the bellhousing on the transmission is getting hung up ontop of the flexplate(flywheel).. pry them apart a little more and they should come apart. If you can slide the trans back that would help.

89fbrestor

i did'nt unhook the trans at all, the cross member or torque arm... should i? again sorry if i ask stupid questions i just don't want to break anything and I'm in no hurry. i even stopped last night so i could post this thread and get some input. i have plans of really making this car nice so i'm just taking my time. i know body work and stuff like that just kinda new to the real wrenching.

MassD

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yea unhook the trans

Air_Adam

89fbrestor

ok i'll unhook the trans *sigh* i was hoping to not have to just cuz it looks like such a pain with that torque arm and stuff. oh well i dought if it would have lasted long with the motor i'm putting in anyway. maybe i'll just pull it and go have it built to hold up. thanks for the tips guys.

Big Dog Chevy

Yeah unhook the trans and crossmember. Watch out for trans lines and wires. The more stuff you have out of the way the easier the job will be. Go slow and you will be ok. I pull motors all the time and have removed and installed motors in many thirdgens. FYI if the trans is stock I would pull both the motor and trans and have it beefed up now and be done with it. imo

89fbrestor

ya i thought about just having the trans beefed up. it is still stock and i dont think it would last long with the motor i'm puting in it. i did get it out last night, i took my time and it went very well. now the cleaning and painting begins. i'll post some pics as the progress happens.

thanks for the input guys.

89fbrestor

ok got the engine bay all cleaned up and painted. quick QUESTION, the plug/wires coming our of the fire wall i have a red circle around... can those come out? they weren't hooked up for the previous motor but i don't want to cut anything i might need down the road. any info would be great thanks

Davidgou

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Congrats, it looks great in there! As long as you take your time, and you obviously are, everything will be all right!

89fbrestor

well i'm trying. couple things i'm hung up on but i think it will turn out nice. i just tried doing the asembly last night on the motor and the crank is way to hard to turn so im going to plaistigauge it and see if its wrong.

89fbrestor

have'nt updated this thread in a while so just thought i'd throw on a couple pics to show the motor now that its almost done. only thing i have to do now is port match the intake. i have it bolted down in the pic as i was getting ready to drill some alignment holes so i can start doing the porting. heads and everything else is done. i'm hoping this weekend to be doing all the finishing touches and getting ready to drop in. i work slow so we'll see. i do still have to get me a 2400 stall for my trans but its winter so no hurry. i'm still curious to see what this makes for hp, this summer i plan on having it dynoed. it would be great if it matches or beats the #'s from the build i followed. i'v had guru's tell me i should see 500hp and i have guru's say i'll be lucky to see 400hp. i'm just crossing my fingers it starts lol

thanks
brian

bradley23150

iTrader: (10)

The wires you circled are all for your A/C and blower motor. If you are totally removing A/C and heat from your camaro, you can unplug those wires from the controls inside and just pull them out, no cutting needed.

quickkris2006

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When u put the motor in go in from the side.. lot more room that way..

89fbrestor

go from side? u mean with cherry picker? my cherry picker wouldnt reach in far enough so i had to use my com along. it worked pretty well, and made easier as far as geting around and moving things with the hoist in my way. this was my first motor i had pulled on my own so i'm taking VERY slow. but thanks for the tip if thats what you meant.

89fbrestor

well got the motor in today i know this hasn't been a very involved thread but thought id update it anyway. went in pretty easy and looks pretty sharp. I'm dieing to see what this puts down for hp. iv heard so many different opinions on it from 400hp to 510hp. definitely going to find a dyno this summer and find out.

89fbrestor

few more pics..... hey i'm proud of the 1st motor i built by myself

Davidgou

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It looks great in there man. Congrats! Hey, what happened with the 305 motor?

92 Camaro

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I see we are alike

89fbrestor

i still have the 305. thining about trying a stroker motor with it i seen on youtube pushing 500hp. ya i'm probably dreaming but for now i have to finish up the camaro and then tackle that 68 mustang you can see in the back ground of one of the pics. i'm so geeked, i'v gone back out in the garage couple times today just to look at it big sense of accomplishment here

92 Camaro

iTrader: (1)

is it a stroker?
not a 68 by the way

Davidgou

iTrader: (2)

Can you post that link to Youtube?

89fbrestor

david, sorry that was about a year ago and after i seen the video i did a search on yahoo and found there quite a few of them out there. i didnt even know you could take a 305 that far. i'm no gear head by any stretch but from what i read the guys who did them said they were making insane torque with them.

92camaro, sorry i meant 66. i had that car given to me from a relative. very solid underbody and a fresh motor. even the interior is in good shape. but i have to save that car for a mustang forum as far as the motor in my camaro. its not a stroker. i followed a build off of gmperformance .com that made 447hp. only difference with there motor is they had dished pistons and i have flat top, and they had stock bore and i have .060 over.

350 4bolt,
.060 over
flat top pistons
voodoo cam, 268/504
worked vortec heads, with as much performance as i could get out of them.
world products crosswinds intake
electric water pump
2400 stall converter
373 posi

i think that about covers it. i'm hoping to be a little better then they had and be in the 460hp range. iv had a ton of people comment on the build, some say 400hp some say 500hp atilla(no disrespect) told me id be lucky to see 400 but i think its a safe assumption to see mid 450hp out of this motor. we'll see.

MetallicaWolfe

That is a beautiful car =] Just thought I'd say it again. Keep up the great work~!

Cant wait ti'll mines back up and running and painted

89fbrestor

thanks metallica, its been about a 6 month project now and i'm very happy its nearing completion. cant wait to see how it performs.

thanks

Grumbles

That transmission is gonna be an unhappy camper :<

89fbrestor

i have two other 700r4's i will have one built soon but i need to sink some money into my mustang project for while first.

89fbrestor

few more pics

Grumbles

Looks like a demented Hot Wheels model

Davidgou

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Thanks anyway, I'll do some research on that. I've got a blown LB9 but I'd like to keep my GTA numbers matching if at all possible, I don't care about making it a very fast car, I enjoyed it the way it was b4 my teenage son got a hold of it and blew the motor. Anyways, I'm gonna try to save it and rebuild it if I can. Wish me luck!

89fbrestor

i thought about redoing the 305 that was my camaro and just decided to go with the 350. but theres nothing wrong with doing the 305. iv seen tons of builds where they get 300hp out of the 305 with out breaking the bank and needing forced induction. just punch in 305 build in yahoo and car craft, gmperformance .com, etc will have some nice builds you could follow. i have one printed out at home from car craft that made 340ish hp and it wasnt a wild complicated build. good luck i'm sure youll have fun with it.

Big Dog Chevy

Your project is looking great so far. By the way your are taking your time it looks like you should have no major problems getting it running like a champ. I like to see guys tackle projects like yours on there own. Too many people are afraid of building a car on there own and end up getting ripped off and disappointed from the results. I have no doubt it will make some good numbers. Keep us posted on the progress.

89fbrestor

thanks big dog, ya i was in no hurry with it and i wanted to try and pay attention to detail. the mustang i'm getting ready to do will hopefully make this one look very amature. and in the end i'm just having a blast doing it

Big Dog Chevy

Yeah I hear you. I have a 91 Mustang GT myself (didn't buy it of course lol) that was given to me by a customer. I looked at building it up but decided to just put a custom paint job on it and sell it. To get it to perform close to my slowest Camaro would involve spending more than I would like so I'm going to sell it. They are some lite *** cars tho, mine is a virgin stocker auto that had some junk in the trunk and still weighed only 3250lbs with a full tank of gas!

89fbrestor

i thought it would be fun to have the american rivals in the same garage the 66 was given to me as well. i plan on taking the 289 to the max. iv found some nice builds and summit has a nice super charger for $1900 i'm thinking about getting for it. my goal is 500hp and from what iv read that will be about it from that 289 with out splitting that block in half. still not sure if i want to get wild with the paint job like i did on the camaro or keep it looking classic. there just so common so i'll probably go wild with it

Davidgou

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Thanks 89fbrestor for you encouragement. I've already started looking at different web sites and ebay sellers for different Engine rebuild kits too. I'm gonna start saving for the project.

89fbrestor

good deal david, prove all the 305 bashers wrong a 300hp 305 is worthy of a respect in my opinion, good luck.

89fbrestor

Hey guys, could i get a little assistance with the electrical(hooking it back up)

1st wire is the pink 1 going to the starter. am i correct in thinking pink wire to small nut on starter and big nut goes directly to the batery?

2nd is 2 red wires connected together and a brown one with a ground attached. do i just run a lead from the two red that are connected to the nut on the alt. and plug in the brown with the plug. where does the battery come into play i think i have to hook that to the alt as well right? kinda lost on this one.

3rd is choke on carb. do i just run a power wire to the empty clip and ground out the black one.

sorry guys if these are stupid q's but if youv read the thread you know I'm new to this and iv been really trying to take my time and do everything correctly.

also how do i mount my low mount alt it looks like the alt will hit my fuel pump.. am i just missing something on this issue.

thank you everybody, free joy ride to the persons who helps lol

89fbrestor

last pic of the alternator low mount bracket.

bradley23150

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The thick pink wire that comes from your c100 is actually the hot (keyed) wire for your distributor. I am not sure about the other wires you have, it looks like they have been messed with before. The choke needs a keyed ign wire and it will work fine. You can ground it directly to the carb.

89fbrestor

there is a thinner pink wire pair with a thin brown wire with the dizzy clips which i didnt take a pick of. i assumed those were the dist wires. the thick pink one was previously connected to the starter. but like you said someone did mess with this so i am just trying to make it right.

thanks

PA91Z28

I really like the color. I am also a snowmobiler and that is very close to being Arctic Cat Green!

AutoRoc

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That thing looks great!

You might want to do a mid mount alteration bracket if the fuel pump doesn't fit. March makes a great one. Mine was for a 6 o'clock/12 o'clock mount alternator, I'm not sure which bolt style alternator you are using.

Goodluck!

89fbrestor

hmm i just bought that low mount one lol i'll have to check it out.

thanks

89fbrestor

hi guys, been a while. well i bought a new trans(built 700r4) got that in and just about everything else in and ready to go. i'm just doing a bunch of small stuff now.

questions that i hope someone can answer. should my feed line for my gasoline servo for my nitrous set up be in front of or behind my electric fuel pump which is also located in the engine bay. please help as i'm hooking up the nos this week end.

thanks and i attached a few pics of what it looks like now, winter really slows things down.

Big Dog Chevy

Man things are looking good there. You have that engine bay looking sexy lol. The feed lines should be after the fuel pump.

89fbrestor

thanks for the compliment big dog and the info.