Slow88lb9

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As far as the spark plug problem header plugs solved that i wont have them in the car for a while to check fitment but it dont look like there should be any issues.

Pocket

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All the 3rd gen headers Ive ever messed with required shorty plugs

I dont see the big deal with them. They're offered in multiple heat ranges, last a decent amount of time and dont have any major quality issues

DIRTY JERZY

DYNO DON'S best 3rd gen header hands down

Pocket

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Cool beans, but what do they have to do with the ebay headers?

Petey

update.....since I have my new engine in place I bolted the headers up in place and they fit great. they are actually the exact same as the jegs/flowteck/summit shorties BUT they are much beefier in material used.

looks like ill have to use 90degree plugwires with em.

Petey

went out and took a few pics











this is a picture of my old TPI engine i was doin the carb conversion on...got the heads painted but ended up getting a diff motor...these are the jegs/summit headers

Twin_Turbo

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chevy orange spark plugs?

What size are the primaries & collectors?

Petey

http://www.ebay.com/itm/170615730124

don't you know orange spark plugs are the "it" thing these days (i have new plugs going in lol)
as for fitment they don't hit at all not even on the steel waterline in my second picture

and as for how they will hold up...time will tell,my camaro isnt a daily driver and is in during winter.

Twin_Turbo

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I kow what they say on ebay, some say 1.5/2.5, others say 1.75/2.5 Was hoping or an actual measurement

Petey

ill be able to get the measurement tomorrow for everyone

Johnny Blaze

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So no plug clearance issue after all?
Love to get an accurate measurement of tubes as well.

peterc005

Looks like the Chinese just got a copy of other headers and copied them.

They do look good though!

Glad to hear they fit well and they look like great value.

Thanks for the pics.

My car is Right Hand Drive, and space for headers is tight because of the steering shaft. If you get a chance I'd appreciate more pics of the right side to get an idea about clearances.

DBLTKE

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He got the ones listed as 1.5" primaries. I was really hoping someone would get the ones listed as 1.75" primaries to see if there's any false advertising going on. Who know's, maybe they're actually offered in different sizes.

watajob

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Indeed.

Awesome-X

They're also extremely expensive. And us Third genners for the most part seem to be extremely poor.

And/or cheap.

Twin_Turbo

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And they hang super low and scrape like mad, they aren't 100% perfect.

Petey

....i just find it hard to buy headers that tend to be worth just as much or almost as an engine itself,so im trying the cheap route since its my summer weeknd car.

now on the other hand my 2008 Dodge Dakota V8 I would buy JBA headers for that as a daily driver.

peterc005

Soundslike the verdict is that these cheap stainless steel Chinese headers are a good deal.

Just need to figure out if they are all the same or if one type is better/bigger than the other ones.

DBLTKE

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Since when do his headers or y-pipe hang low? Every picture I've seen of his stuff appeared to tuck up really well, especially compared to Hooker 2055's.

Drew

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Have any of the Chinese knock off parts ever proven to be a good deal? True you save a buck on the front end, but when you have a problem there's no manufacturer support. When they crack, rust out, or otherwise fail, you're stuck. Not to mention the economic suicide of supporting business sending jobs overseas. You're sending good money over seas, to support a manufacturer who stole their design from the companies here that actually care about how happy the customer is with their product. In effect you're putting the real developer of the part, out of business because you're cheap.

Just say no to Chinese garbage.

Awesome-X

Do you know of a set of headers in the same price range for our cars that are American made?

Twin_Turbo

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these hang very low

Drew

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Do you know of any American manufacturers that can produce a similar product paying taxes, paying minimum wage or higher paid skilled labor, and paying for quality materials? Because I can't think of any Chinese manufacturers that can do it either. They use labor that's one step above slavery, they don't have to spend money making sure their facilities are safe for their staff. They use low quality raw materials, and don't support the product after the sale. In fact, they often give addresses for locations that don't exist. Do what you want, but don't complain you don't have money for mods when all the wealth is in Asia, because you were too cheap to buy domestic goods. Or when the fly by night company that built your cheap parts leaves you hanging.

It's pretty simple, if you want a good product, support a vendor that actually gives a damn about that product. If more people bought a higher quality header, they'd be more affordable.

peterc005

The big thing is that the Chinese are keeping their exchange rate artificially low to encourage exports.

The Chinese are actually pretty dumb. They are doing all the dirty jobs, cheaply, to subsidise a better standard of living in the West.

If you bought these headers, think of it as stealing maybe $100 from the Chinese.

Petey

(for the people who want to know)

for the people that wanted to know more about the measurements on them heres some pics of the fitment also,including driver side.

primary's measure 1 5/8" (posted 1 1/2)
collector is 2 1/2









did some hard looking...cant find any spots of rubbing CLOSE but no. Another set of the same headers may depending on how the jig or whatever is set,but in my case its good.

peterc005

I guess these headers going into a 3" system would be a good combination?

They certainly seem to look and fit good.

Verhagen82

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I bought these a similar set of these eBay headers when they first appeared in ebay and went through the fitment issues. They are great quality for a 2.5 inch collector shorty though I must say. I ended up running Accel header plugs with 90 plug boots and the thick reusable manifold gaskets; everything clears good and have yet to have a problem.

BTW they may be for sale

DBLTKE

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That surprises the hell out of me. 1 5/8" collectors when they're advertised as a 1.5"? Why would they shoot themselves in the foot like that?

Twin_Turbo

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and that is exactly what I wanted to know (and suspected), the collector is junk but easily cut off and a cone reducer welded on.

dans89

Does anyone know if there is a Y-pipe that will bolt up to these? I might just have to buy a set if there is...

91RsNate

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I wonder if the flowtech y-pipe would bolt right up since they look like the same header.

91RsNate

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petey, can you measure the OD of the main tubes away from the flange somewhere? they might have expanded them to fit the flange. Thans

Johnny Blaze

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Looks to me that the pipe steps down just after the flange, making it more like 1.5"

I would bet flowtech y will bolt right up.

All in all, they seem like a good option for a stock or mild car, and the stainless should last much longer than the mild steel ones offered at a similer price.

Werewolf SS

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Alright folks I ended up being the test subject with these headers and hooking them up to an avaliable y pipe.

The answer is......these ebay headers are a complete chinesse ripooff. To the point that yes they are a complete copied design of the flowtechs. To the point that.....

The Flowtech 11102YFLT Y-pipe mounts up as if it were normal Flowtechs.
No modification, I had the y-pipe connected in 20 minutes.

So if someone is wanting to get stainless headers cheap that are a decent improvement over stock then these ebay headers with the flowtech y-pipe combination is a good cheap router.

But do realize you are supporting a chinesse company that has literaly stolen/copied the flowtech design.

peterc005

I think we all realise they are a Chinese knock-of, but most header manufacturers seem to be copying a single design anyway.

Did the O2 sensor fit ok?

Wonder if the Chinese make a Y pipe too?

Werewolf SS

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Haven't seen a y pipe from them so no telling. Also in regards to o2 sensor I'm carbed so couldn't tell you but each header has an already welded and plugged o2 bung at the collector and from looking at it appears an o2 sensor would have no issues going in there and having decent clearance.

zenish

too bad these aren't available with air tubes.i can't use them.

peterc005

Could someone with these or the the Flowtech headers do me a favour?

I'm in Australia and my car is a Right Hand Drive conversion.

I'd appreciate if you measure the minimum distance between the right hand (factory passenger) side inner sub-frame and the headers.

Any photos would be appreciated. There is a photo above and I'm trying to estimate the spacing from that.

305sbc

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I'm not against buying cheaper Chinese stuff. I am against labor unions and restrictions that drive the cost of our products so high.

However, back on topic. I noticed something curious.
The shipper of the ebay stainless headers is Fontana California,
right next door to Orange California, where Dyno Don is.
Small world huh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Or...ighlighted.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sa...ighlighted.svg

Petey

update to an old thread!

been long since iv been on here.
seen people are asking about the y pipe for it,yes the flotech y bolts right up.

peterc005

@Petey - any more pics?