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Old 11-19-2007, 09:03 AM
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Another air compressor question 3 phase -> 220v swap?

Ive got the possibility og getting a huge air tank from a shop (+80gal), buts its 3 phase and the either the motor or compressor is going bad. My shop at my house is only wired for a 220v air compressor. Would it be worth it to basically srap the 3 phase motor/compressor and put on a 220v motor/compressor? If so, where can I find a matched set that will work together? Or would it be best to get a Husky 60gal 220v compressor from Home Depot for ~$400? Looking for the cheapest option here. Im looking for +10cfm, gonna be sandblasting and such. The Home Depot compressor is rated at 10.2 or 10.3cfm which should suffice. But if I can make this FREE air compressor work, I will dangit!
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Re: Another air compressor question 3 phase -> 220v swap?

It'll probably cost you a lot of money to get your house/garage wired for 3 phase. Cheaper to just buy a 2 phase 220/240v compressor.
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Re: Another air compressor question 3 phase -> 220v swap?

would it be best though to buy the compressor and motor together as a matched set? Guy in the shop said that most 220v motors cant efficiently turn over a compressor made for a 3 phase motor
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Re: Another air compressor question 3 phase -> 220v swap?

buy the biggest/best you can now. I didnt the mistake of just buying what I thought would be good enought the 1st time. once of them lowes 80gallon one http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...065&lpage=none
and It has a hard time keeping up with blasting or using a DA. (always running)

Save some more $ and get something in the 20+ CFM you wont regreat it. Trust me.

I found a killer deal and picked up an 7.5 hp,80gallon used compressor thats rated at 32.5 cfm and its 10x better then my Lowes one.

Do you have any industrail supply places around you? Something like this place.
http://www.hgrindustrialsurplus.com/

Places like that have great deals on anything and everything.
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Re: Another air compressor question 3 phase -> 220v swap?

I think we're gonna scrap the 3 phase conversion for now. Actually I was lookin at at northern tool and they've got an "Industrial Air" 60gal compressor for about $460, plus 10% off if I buy it in-store on Friday! It would actually come out cheaper than the Home Depot one, and its 1cfm higher.

COMPRESSOR SPECS

20+cfm is a little more than what I would be needing. It's for a personal shop, not even a home-base businses, just for my personal use. All the reviews online say 5 out of 5, even with a D/A or sandblaster

BTW: Anyone ever heard of that name brand, Industrial Air? Im trying to find some info on them, Im wondering if it's like an in-house deal with Northern
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Re: Another air compressor question 3 phase -> 220v swap?

My 60G Lowes compressor is rated at 16.1 SCFM @ 40 PSI
14.0 SCFM @ 90 PSI
155 maximum PSI

and as said it is constantally running when I use air tools. and a blasting cabnite uses a TON of air.

you can look at a few diff. brands here..
http://www.asedeals.com/air_compressors_main.html
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Re: Another air compressor question 3 phase -> 220v swap?

those look like some decent compressors, but they're out of my price range (Under $500). I guess it all depends on your setup and how much (and how) you use it. Friend of mine's got a 60gal that puts out like 9.9cfm and he's had no problems using a D/A, but then again he's not pulling an all nighter doing bodywork or anything, which I dont plan on either
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Re: Another air compressor question 3 phase -> 220v swap?

What HP is the motor on the unit? If the motor is what is going out on the machine then you might be better off buying a single phase motor and to rewire the machine for that new motor. This is only going to work if you need a 7.5HP or smaller motor.

If the compressor itself is going out then I don't think you should bother. You might could rebuild the compressor, but you still have to deal with the power problem.

For $460 you won't get nearly the same quality as a commercial compressor from a real shop.
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Re: Another air compressor question 3 phase -> 220v swap?

You might also consider just getting the free compressor and using the tank as an additional storage unit. If you are going to constantly use it for hours on end this won't help but it will more than double your work time before you need to stop and wait for the compressor to catch up.

We use a 200 gallon propane tank at work to store air pressure to start a huge V-8 natural gas engine. It's filled with a 5hp compressor and will give us a good 2 or 3 tries to get the engine started. I think the air demand is around 100 cfm when cranking.
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Re: Another air compressor question 3 phase -> 220v swap?

you can buy a phase converter for +-$200. and run a 3 phase motor on single phase curant the roterys work the best but are exspensive. a static converter uses a realay and a couple capaciters you can build one your self for about $50.00 but you will loose about 20% of your motors rated hp.
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Re: Another air compressor question 3 phase -> 220v swap?

Industrial Air is a division of Coleman. They are a step above the Home Depot and lowes units. I have one of these and I am very happy with it but it is the next one up from the one your looking at.

This is the one I have:

http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/w...1709_200311709
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