oldschool

Noticed a new in the box set of GM factory louvers on ebay. Part number 998386. These are the 1982-1985 version without the third brake light. Bidding ends soon.

Bill Speed

Strangely against my nature, I seriously considered a mid 1980s, maybe it was 87? Camaro with the rear windows louvers and flares...if memory serves...bright yellow. Even took shots on old-school disc camara film, which I can't now get processed! Anyway, someone here was ranting about his dislike, so I counter that with "I like 'em"

JeffW

what no link?

bah what is ending soon?

scottmoyer

By the time I saw the post, I went to eBay looking. It was closed by friday night. No bids and the starting bid was ~$220. Just a little too high if you ask me.

JeffW

did anyone save this auction? 220 i would of grabbed em if they were nos never used. but then again you would have to like the look.

Jeff

BirdsofPray

Granted, they were new, but I cannot justify paying well over two hundred dollars for those. I have two used yet pristine ones I paid less than thirty dollars for. Why spend more if you don't have to?

scottmoyer

My mistake, $200.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...510549623&rd=1

Brock's91RS

I bought these....You might say the 80's were pretty darn good to me,these cars with the louvers bring back fond memories...
Now that I have myself convinced...I just gotta convince my wife!
Later
Steve

JeffW

ok thanks. i'm looking for the 3 piece ones. i guess they are not original as i thought as those are the ones that curve around the window, mine has a flat peice that goes on the sides.

jeff

scottmoyer

Jeff, the factory original set looks like 1 piece but are actually 3 pieces. The set on my car are factory originals and you can see the seperation.

JeffW

i'll have to take a pic of mine. not sure if it was the 85 year style or not. i like the look of louvers but my side peices are in bad shape.

the window top area are slots like your but they don;t wrap around the wiondow. the have a triangle peice with 3 openings in them for the sides. Plastic side metal top.

Jeff

Brock's91RS

Are you talking about the 3 piece "hammond" brand ones?
If so..I have a guy who has 2 brand new sets of those
I believe they have the 3 angled slots on the sides?
Let me know
Steve

scottmoyer

Steve,
The louvers you just bought....are they for the 91/92 with the 3rd brake light? Or are they solid like mine?

Brock's91RS

Solid like yours...that was one of the first questions I asked
He sent a pic of top louver with hinges..it was flat,stop light ones arent i dont believe...
My luck on window louvers isnt the greatest tho!!
Later
Steve

scottmoyer

Do you want the pieces necessary to make them official 91 louvers? Slats 3 and 4 come as 1 piece with the 3rd brake light assembly. If you're interested, let me know.

Brock's91RS

No Thanks...I no longer own a 91..I own an 87 now...I learned the ins and outs of 3RD gens with that 91...or so i thought!
I e-mailed you earlier Scott
But I just thought of something...what Hatch struts should I use?
I dont imagine my struts I have now will work...and the last thing I want to do is have the hatch slam down and break pull-down housing!
Later
Steve

scottmoyer

You want the heavy duty struts. They also refer to them as required for a rear window wiper. If you take the louvers off with these struts, the hatch will pop open when you press the release button. No worries about it dropping anymore.

I responded to all emails didn't I? If you replied back to my work address, I missed it. I'll check it

scottmoyer

Ok, just checked it.

Yes, black RTV will work wonders. Put on a very thin layer. When sliding the slats on the ABS pieces, the RTV will ooze out the seam. If it gets on the slat, it could leave a permanent shiny spot. Putting the second ABS side on is the most tricky. It looks simple, but isn't. Get a second set of hands to help you. It is almost a necessity. Good luck.

JeffW

ok so hear is what my current ones look like the sides are in bad shape, but the rest is good. are these hammonds? 85 z 28 not sure what stock would be.

Jeff

JeffW

one more

Brock's91RS

Jeff.... I believe those to be the "Hammond" brand,you can still buy those....Like I said..I talked with a guy who says he has 2 new sets he wants to get rid of
PM me for his info if your interested
Later
Steve

scottmoyer

Jeff, prior to 86, all louvers were aftermarket. The factory set look like mine for all years available. The only difference would be the provision for the 3rd brake light. If your car is a low mile original, you might want to try and locate some for your year.

85 T/A WS6

Louvers were on option since 1983 if I recall correctly

scottmoyer

Louvers might have been available since 83, but the factory started offering them in 1986. No sets prior to 1986 would be considered a factory option.

JeffW

really no louvers were orig in 85? i thought they always had the louvers since going to 3rd gen heck my 2nd gen t/a had em.

my car is a 70k 85 z 28 not exactly stock any more, i wonder which louver would look better the hamond or the gm one you have.

jeff

85 T/A WS6

The option code is "DE1" and could be ordered on any 3rd gen Firebird since 1983.

scottmoyer

On Firebirds, yes, but they weren't available on Camaros until 1986. I don't know why. These guys both have Camaros so I was giving them Camaro related information.

Just to be accurate, I'll specify here that the factory louvers were not available as DE1 for Camaros until 1986. They were available as DE1 for Pontiac in 1983. Pontiacs usually had the dressup items and visual enhancements over the Camaro. It's possible that Pontiac used them and then Chevrolet decided it was a good option to have. Who knows!

This is what the hammond style look like on the car.

abray1

Hey guys, I need a set of louvers for a purple 92 z28 I just got a few weeks ago. I live in Arkansas and it gets HOTTTTTT here. What is available for the 91-92 style third brake light that has that low wrap around look like the cragars did. Would it be tacky to use a solid louver like for a 88 model that would not be made for the 91-92 style brake light. Summer is coming and I am desperately trying to get ready for it. I even bought a brand new compressor and I am also going to buy some R-12. It works much better than 134A.

abray1

Hey guys, I need a set of louvers for a purple 92 z28 I just got a few weeks ago. I live in Arkansas and it gets HOTTTTTT here. What is available for the 91-92 style third brake light that has that low wrap around look like the cragars did. Would it be tacky to use a solid louver like for a 88 model that would not be made for the 91-92 style brake light. Summer is coming and I am desperately trying to get ready for it. I even bought a brand new compressor and I am also going to buy some R-12. It works much better than 134A.