TBI Throttle Body Injection discussion and questions. L03/CFI tech and other performance enhancements.

carb to efi fuel system

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-07-2019, 05:30 AM
  #1  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
ziggy89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Muscatine IA
Posts: 574
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 91 Firebird Formula
Engine: 383
Transmission: built 700r4
Axle/Gears: 4.11, 9inch
carb to efi fuel system

not sure where to put this so ill use the tbi thread since im going to tbi. want to run either a fitech or holley sniper. car is originally a factory carb car. so no pump in tank. my question do you guys recomend converting to an intake pump and running factory lines or should i just throw an inline pump in and plumb it up? i like the intank idea just not sure i want to spend the money on new lines. like 100 bucks a line for pre bent ones.
Old 03-07-2019, 07:51 AM
  #2  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (16)
 
Street Lethal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: NYC / NJ
Posts: 10,464
Received 174 Likes on 152 Posts
Re: carb to efi fuel system

Don't waste your time with an intank pump if the vehicle did not come with one. Guys back in the day would worry, if, say, they were switching from fuel injection to carb if they needed to pull the fuel pump, which of course justified either dropping the rear, or cutting a trap door, which is a pain in the rear (pun intended). In your case, since it's already carb, just run an external pump, and mount it where the TPI fuel filter would be located, tucked away and hidden. You can use the factory feed and return lines up to where the mechanical fuel pump would be, just need to add the proper fuel regulator for the amount of psi you're planning to run, then make some fuel lines leading to the injection system (preferably GM saginaw fittings, just need a flaring tool). It's simple...

- Rob
Old 03-07-2019, 09:05 AM
  #3  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
ziggy89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Muscatine IA
Posts: 574
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 91 Firebird Formula
Engine: 383
Transmission: built 700r4
Axle/Gears: 4.11, 9inch
Re: carb to efi fuel system

that should work. know what sizes fittings those would be at the mechanical fuel pump? probably just do an adapter to -6an.
Old 03-07-2019, 09:19 AM
  #4  
Supreme Member

iTrader: (16)
 
Street Lethal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: NYC / NJ
Posts: 10,464
Received 174 Likes on 152 Posts
Re: carb to efi fuel system

The LG4/L69 carbed engines should have a 3/8th feed and a 5/16th return by the mechanical fuel pump. Summit Racing should be able to cross reference them for you just knowing those sizes...

- Rob
Old 03-07-2019, 11:03 AM
  #5  
naf
Supreme Member

iTrader: (7)
 
naf's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Lexington, SC
Posts: 5,291
Likes: 0
Received 58 Likes on 52 Posts
Car: 1987 SC/1985 TA
Engine: 350/vortec/fitech
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9-bolt
Re: carb to efi fuel system

The LG4/L69 fuel lines can be used with an in-tank pump for the injection system. You will need the return line. 'Course we don't know what year car you have or what fuel lines are currently installed.

I installed a Walbro 255 in-tank and converted my fuel lines in the bay to quick-disconnect, factory 'nylon'. Did need to install a filter at the rear where the 3/8" feed line turns at the frame rail. Ran a filter near the fitech for a while to ensure the line was cleaned out.

Wiring for mine was simpler because the 87 LG4 had an in-tank helper pump, just used the fitech fuel pump signal lead to engage the fuel pump relay by tapping into the old lead under the dash. You'll have to run conductors for your in-line pump back there anyway though.
Old 05-21-2020, 06:38 AM
  #6  
Junior Member
 
s8bayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Allendale, MI
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '82 Camaro z28
Engine: 355 4-bolt
Transmission: t56 out of 95 Z
Axle/Gears: 3.73 disks out of same 95
Re: carb to efi fuel system

@ziggy89 How did this go? I am about half way through installing a Sniper EFI and trying to decide where to put my Walbro... Was a carb car. Doesn't even have a filter back there. There is some room under the back seat if I cut my lines, but I was hoping not to. I don't think you can near the centerline in front of the tank because I believe the rear end can go that high. Thoughts anyone? Any pics?
Old 05-21-2020, 11:16 AM
  #7  
Senior Member

Thread Starter
 
ziggy89's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Muscatine IA
Posts: 574
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Car: 91 Firebird Formula
Engine: 383
Transmission: built 700r4
Axle/Gears: 4.11, 9inch
Re: carb to efi fuel system

Never ended up making the swap. Sold the car with a carb on it.
Old 01-15-2021, 04:44 AM
  #8  
Junior Member
 
jomalley1234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Firebird
Engine: 305
Transmission: Auto
Re: carb to efi fuel system

Sorry for hijacking the thread I want to do this with my 84 LG4. Holley have recommended an Adjustable Billet By-Pass Regulator-6AN
Part # 12-880 and a 255 LPH Forced Induction In-Tank Electric Fuel Pump Part # 12-914. would this do away with my mechanical fuel pump in the engine bay and is my tank suitable for the pump they mention? Also could I use my existing fuel lines?
Old 01-15-2021, 08:42 PM
  #9  
Junior Member
 
s8bayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Allendale, MI
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '82 Camaro z28
Engine: 355 4-bolt
Transmission: t56 out of 95 Z
Axle/Gears: 3.73 disks out of same 95
Re: carb to efi fuel system

Originally Posted by jomalley1234
Sorry for hijacking the thread I want to do this with my 84 LG4. Holley have recommended an Adjustable Billet By-Pass Regulator-6AN
Part # 12-880 and a 255 LPH Forced Induction In-Tank Electric Fuel Pump Part # 12-914. would this do away with my mechanical fuel pump in the engine bay and is my tank suitable for the pump they mention? Also could I use my existing fuel lines?
mine was easy because it was a carb car. I assume yours is fuel injection. Likely why they recommended the in tank. If your carb I wound recommend pulling the tank. Well, it would be quieter then my inline, but I didn’t pull the tank. Just replaced a my old rubber lines and plumbed in the pump. Mine has been working great. I used my 1/4” return. The regulator seems a little odd too. The sniper has a regulator in it. Wonder if the pump they recommended needs more control.
Old 01-18-2021, 08:29 AM
  #10  
Junior Member
 
jomalley1234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Firebird
Engine: 305
Transmission: Auto
Re: carb to efi fuel system

Mine is a carb car also. Easy way would be to plumb an in line pump like you said. However if my tank is able to use this pump i would prefer doing that it just confused me as it said the pump fits 85-92 and mine is an 84.
Old 01-18-2021, 09:12 AM
  #11  
Junior Member
 
s8bayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Allendale, MI
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '82 Camaro z28
Engine: 355 4-bolt
Transmission: t56 out of 95 Z
Axle/Gears: 3.73 disks out of same 95
Re: carb to efi fuel system

Originally Posted by jomalley1234
Mine is a carb car also. Easy way would be to plumb an in line pump like you said. However if my tank is able to use this pump i would prefer doing that it just confused me as it said the pump fits 85-92 and mine is an 84.
With carb, your current pickup does not have a pump mount on it. My understanding is that you can keep the tank, but replace the pickup assembly with a later mode like 85-92. That will give you the holder section for pump and power ground leads. It should be quieter that way. Mine is pretty noisy with the walbro unit I have. I don’t really care though. Sniper has a blue power with that goes from front to back. Just frame mount the group (test that it is a good ground). I just drilled a hole above the hump behind the carpet. Put a grommet and some shrink wrap so it stays safe.
Old 01-18-2021, 11:20 AM
  #12  
Junior Member
 
jomalley1234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 32
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: Firebird
Engine: 305
Transmission: Auto
Re: carb to efi fuel system

If i went for the inline pump and left the tank as it was would this kit be suitable and contain what i need would you think:

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...parts/550-868K

I can't figure out why holley did not recommend this to Me. I think they may have thought as said that my car was injected
Old 01-22-2021, 06:17 AM
  #13  
Junior Member
 
s8bayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Allendale, MI
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Car: '82 Camaro z28
Engine: 355 4-bolt
Transmission: t56 out of 95 Z
Axle/Gears: 3.73 disks out of same 95
Re: carb to efi fuel system

Originally Posted by jomalley1234
If i went for the inline pump and left the tank as it was would this kit be suitable and contain what i need would you think:

https://www.holley.com/products/fuel...parts/550-868K

I can't figure out why holley did not recommend this to Me. I think they may have thought as said that my car was injected
yes, that is basically what I used. The only thing is you may want to get under and make a strategy on where to put it. I put it vertically right in front of rear axle and behind drive side rear seat. It is right below the current vent. Replace all! The lines back there. They are only and you are under there already. Make sure your tank vent is functioning. They aren’t replaceable so disassemble and clean. YouTube it. Use vapor lock fuel line or better. Use their clams too. I assembled the fuel from my own parts. I just got the base kit. I didn’t need some of the items they had in their kit. I used 90 elbows up at the body and plumbed to original hard lines. I only have about 350 hp so I have had no problems with flow. I wanted to get two pressure gauges on each line up front but ran out of money and just tried it. Worked out fine. I did do the Holley pro dash for my gauges. Hooked right up to their CAN bus and worked great. Pricey but really cool. Back in the rear I drilled 3 holes. One for 12v wire, 2 for mounting pump. It is tight. Took me a lot of time to find just the right spot. Oh and I put my after pump filter in the hump below the back seat. I couldn’t fit it all together in back. So, hard line off tank, pre filter, pump, hardline under, post filter. Sorry can get photos for you. It is in storage for winter.
Old 05-30-2022, 09:33 AM
  #14  
Junior Member
 
Blp1983's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Re: carb to efi fuel system

Originally Posted by naf
The LG4/L69 fuel lines can be used with an in-tank pump for the injection system. You will need the return line. 'Course we don't know what year car you have or what fuel lines are currently installed.

I installed a Walbro 255 in-tank and converted my fuel lines in the bay to quick-disconnect, factory 'nylon'. Did need to install a filter at the rear where the 3/8" feed line turns at the frame rail. Ran a filter near the fitech for a while to ensure the line was cleaned out.

Wiring for mine was simpler because the 87 LG4 had an in-tank helper pump, just used the fitech fuel pump signal lead to engage the fuel pump relay by tapping into the old lead under the dash. You'll have to run conductors for your in-line pump back there anyway though.
I know threads old but looking for more info on 87 with lg4 ls swap with inline pump i also have corvette reg./filter too.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
makaveli09
Carburetors
14
02-26-2015 05:18 AM
hartsmike
Engine Swap
4
01-04-2015 10:46 PM
86camaro383
TPI
3
03-13-2008 11:04 PM
82karr
Carburetors
6
11-14-2007 03:32 PM
DFI79MC
Tech / General Engine
2
04-15-2004 07:40 PM



Quick Reply: carb to efi fuel system



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:20 PM.