CommieTerrorist

So on my way home one night the Camaro starts driving real funny. Try to take off from a stop and it stumbles, almost stalls, then catch and take off. The next day I start it up and the idle is surging. Idles about 1500, then drops and almost stalls, then goes back up to 1500. The idle smooths out after it warms up, but it still doesn't drive right. I can also hear a loud sucking noise coming from the TBI. This noise varies as the idle changes. It seems to me that the IAC is going crazy. There are no codes after I replaced the CTS (had a code 15, CTS voltage too high). Right now I am thinking it might be the ECM. I'm running out of ideas there, anyone have any suggestions? Parts I've replaced: EGR EGR Solenoid CTS IAC My Car: 92 RS 305 TBI w/ 5 speed

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toomany

Could be a vacuum leak. Start the car and spray some carb cleaner around the vacuum lines, throttle body and intake gaskets. If the idle changes, you've found the leak.

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CommieTerrorist

Didn't find any vacuum leaks. Since none of the electrical parts have made any different, I am beginning to think it might be fuel. I bought a fuel pressure tester from autozone, the one that goes inline with the fuel filter. Pressue read 8 psi. It drops a little when revved. Manual says 9-13 is normal, but 8 seems close enough to me. Is 8 psi good enough or my fuel pump bad?

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CommieTerrorist

I made a couple of videos. Quality is not very good but you can hear what it is doing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w3mPdMXIi0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIvZA-Ylwck

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Roachjr

Man my 92 does the exact same thing. Once you throttle it for a little while it clears up but it only does it some times. I replaced all the wires,plugs,entire distributor, egr valve, IAC, I mean a ton of stuff and it still does it, the only thing I didn't do was check my fuel pressure. So that would be my guess as to what it is haha

CommieTerrorist

My fuel pressure is good, at least just after the filter. It might be on the low side, but should be fine for stock. My car isn't really driveable, it has a huge hesitation when you try and take off.

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Thrillo

Well, since you have the air cleaner assembly fully off and you're hearing a sucking noise, I'd bet that you didn't plug up the THERMAC port. That's probably the source of the noise.

I have a similar problem with my '89 'bird: she idles rough and stumbles/stalls after driving for a few minutes. It started after I did a LOT of part-replacing due to an emissions-test failure. My fuel pressure is a little on the low side too (8-10 psi), I wonder if the fuel pump didn't like sitting for a month with a nearly empty tank while I worked on the car. The fuel injectors spray fine at all RPMs so I doubt it's the problem though.
Anyway, here's my final part replacement list, which was originally much smaller:
Distributor coil
Distributor cap
Distributor rotor
Distributor module
Distributor pick-up coil
Spark plug wires
Spark plugs
Fuel filter
O2 sensor
IAC
Coolant sensor (the one that goes on top of the engine)
ECU (but not the PROM)
EGR valve
Various vacuum hoses
Air filter
Fuel injectors
Cat
And probably some other stuff I forgot about.

I recently bought an ALDL cable so that I can live-scan the ECU. If nothing appears wrong, I'm admitting defeat and it's going to a mechanic. I'm at my wits end . At least I learned a lot along the way...

CommieTerrorist

Well, I finally figured out it was the fuel pump. 8 psi is not good enough.

Also, changing the fuel pump really is a pain in the ***!

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