l98 vs sleeper
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Re: l98 vs sleeper
Lt1's dont run 13's from the factory and yes ,they do have about 230-240rwhp. That you are right about.They run a flat to low 14 second time stock.
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Corvettes are not light... just cause their bodies are made of fiberglass doesnt mean they're lightweight. C4 Corvettes weigh just as much as a thirdgen, so my examples certainly do apply.
Also, my C5 weighs around 3200, thats 300lbs (at most) lighter than a thirdgen. So take 3 tenths off my C5's times to make up for a thirdgen's weight and you have a 300rwhp fbody in the mid 12s, not mid 13s
Also, my C5 weighs around 3200, thats 300lbs (at most) lighter than a thirdgen. So take 3 tenths off my C5's times to make up for a thirdgen's weight and you have a 300rwhp fbody in the mid 12s, not mid 13s
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Re: l98 vs sleeper
Quickest 100% bone stock LT1 Corvette has gone 13.0 at 108mph
My 100% stock LT1 6speed '93 Corvette with 80k miles dynoed 266rwhp, the 230-240 range is for an automatic LT1
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You can bash him over the head with the truth, crack his skull open and shove it directly into his brain but he just rejects anything that doesn't fit with his dream view of the world.
Somehow I don't know why I try.
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Any thread in which Ninetyone posts in will invariably devolve into the smart people vs his stupidity.
You can bash him over the head with the truth, crack his skull open and shove it directly into his brain but he just rejects anything that doesn't fit with his dream view of the world.
Somehow I don't know why I try.
You can bash him over the head with the truth, crack his skull open and shove it directly into his brain but he just rejects anything that doesn't fit with his dream view of the world.
Somehow I don't know why I try.
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So what you're saying is that only weight and hp make a car run what it runs? Nothing else in there factors in? Not the torque converter, tranny, gears, suspension, tires, track, or the driver? All those things make a huge difference in what a car will run. Hell even the aerodynamics of a car makes a slight difference. Even the damn wind at the track that day makes a difference!
And think about this for one minute there genius... how does torque factor in? Is a car with 230 rwhp and 230 rwtq going to run the same as a car with 230 rwhp and 300 rwtq? It's not all about hp, torque is what gets the car moving. Torque is that little friend that puts a smile on everybodys face when they nail the gas, not hp.
And think about this for one minute there genius... how does torque factor in? Is a car with 230 rwhp and 230 rwtq going to run the same as a car with 230 rwhp and 300 rwtq? It's not all about hp, torque is what gets the car moving. Torque is that little friend that puts a smile on everybodys face when they nail the gas, not hp.
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Re: l98 vs sleeper
so what hp is hp anyway u make it, just because it has a turbo doesnt mean it has more power then an n/a 270rwhp car
and to the op if it was one of the 3.8v6 cars with a turbo added ive seen them run 10's.we had a girl that used to race at our local track who had a 3.8 stand with a 70mm turbo that would run mid 10's all day long
and to the op if it was one of the 3.8v6 cars with a turbo added ive seen them run 10's.we had a girl that used to race at our local track who had a 3.8 stand with a 70mm turbo that would run mid 10's all day long
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Finally found a pic of 91's BMW, just as I suspected.
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It was a V12 with 12 turbos
It was a V12 with 12 turbos
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But a small turbo motor that achieves 270RWHP will generally achieve more torque than an N/A 270RWHP
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im not tryin to argue that. but if its true why do i have 230 hp & 330lb but my friends 2.5t makes 276hp and 270lb. if two engines one, a small turbo engine. and the other a large naturally aspirated engine if they both have exactly 300hp shouldnt the bigger engine make more torque?
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The TTA 3.8 was rated at 250hp @ 4400rpm, and and 340lb/ft torque @ 2800rpm. That TQ comes in even sooner than it does on a TPI 350 car under boost. And we all know that the TTA motors were under-rated since they pushed the TA to mid 13's @ 101mph officially.
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ooo i thought it was because factory gm heads have small intake ports resulting in torque early in the rpm range. *palm to forehead*
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im not tryin to argue that. but if its true why do i have 230 hp & 330lb but my friends 2.5t makes 276hp and 270lb. if two engines one, a small turbo engine. and the other a large naturally aspirated engine if they both have exactly 300hp shouldnt the bigger engine make more torque?
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Car: 1988 firebird formula 350
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Originally Posted by Dakota W.
You keep changing how much hp your car makes with every post.
230 hp is what my car left the factory with.
200 hp is how much i assume i have left after 24 years of abuse.
150 hp is how much i assume i currently put to the ground.
each number i put is relative to my power output .so please if u have any other comments feel free to bottle them up inside because i have no respect for your opinion and have no intent on ever replying to you again. good day sir
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im not tryin to argue that. but if its true why do i have 230 hp & 330lb...
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