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Old 11-28-2012, 05:38 PM
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Lt1's dont run 13's from the factory and yes ,they do have about 230-240rwhp. That you are right about.They run a flat to low 14 second time stock.
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No,no and no. Your talking about a light Corvette vs an F-body
Corvettes are not light... just cause their bodies are made of fiberglass doesnt mean they're lightweight. C4 Corvettes weigh just as much as a thirdgen, so my examples certainly do apply.

Also, my C5 weighs around 3200, thats 300lbs (at most) lighter than a thirdgen. So take 3 tenths off my C5's times to make up for a thirdgen's weight and you have a 300rwhp fbody in the mid 12s, not mid 13s
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Lt1's dont run 13's from the factory and yes ,they do have about 230-240rwhp. That you are right about.They run a flat to low 14 second time stock.
Quickest 100% bone stock LT1 fbody has gone 13.4 at 104mph

Quickest 100% bone stock LT1 Corvette has gone 13.0 at 108mph

My 100% stock LT1 6speed '93 Corvette with 80k miles dynoed 266rwhp, the 230-240 range is for an automatic LT1
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How did we get so far off topic? I thought we were talking about the Mustang with the Inline12 in it...
I burst out laughing when I read it but get your story straight bro. It was a V12 with 12 turbos and a train blower.
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thats turbo
Power is power. 270rwhp is still 270rwhp no matter how its attained. If the gearing matches the car it'll move out nearly the same.

Originally Posted by ninetyone
235 Wheel hp in a 3500lb car should pull a lower 14.
There are many examples of L98's in the 230rwhp range making 13 second passes. LT1s do it all the time.
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How did we get so far off topic? I thought we were talking about the Mustang with the Inline12 in it...
Any thread in which Ninetyone posts in will invariably devolve into the smart people vs his stupidity.

You can bash him over the head with the truth, crack his skull open and shove it directly into his brain but he just rejects anything that doesn't fit with his dream view of the world.

Somehow I don't know why I try.
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Any thread in which Ninetyone posts in will invariably devolve into the smart people vs his stupidity.

You can bash him over the head with the truth, crack his skull open and shove it directly into his brain but he just rejects anything that doesn't fit with his dream view of the world.

Somehow I don't know why I try.
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It was a V12 with 12 turbos and a train blower.
post of the day right there!
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235 Wheel hp in a 3500lb car should pull a lower 14.
So what you're saying is that only weight and hp make a car run what it runs? Nothing else in there factors in? Not the torque converter, tranny, gears, suspension, tires, track, or the driver? All those things make a huge difference in what a car will run. Hell even the aerodynamics of a car makes a slight difference. Even the damn wind at the track that day makes a difference!

And think about this for one minute there genius... how does torque factor in? Is a car with 230 rwhp and 230 rwtq going to run the same as a car with 230 rwhp and 300 rwtq? It's not all about hp, torque is what gets the car moving. Torque is that little friend that puts a smile on everybodys face when they nail the gas, not hp.
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Originally Posted by ninetyone
thats turbo
so what hp is hp anyway u make it, just because it has a turbo doesnt mean it has more power then an n/a 270rwhp car


and to the op if it was one of the 3.8v6 cars with a turbo added ive seen them run 10's.we had a girl that used to race at our local track who had a 3.8 stand with a 70mm turbo that would run mid 10's all day long
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Finally found a pic of 91's BMW, just as I suspected.
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LMAO!
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so what hp is hp anyway u make it, just because it has a turbo doesnt mean it has more power then an n/a 270rwhp car
But a small turbo motor that achieves 270RWHP will generally achieve more torque than an N/A 270RWHP
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It was a V12 with 12 turbos
yep like i said turbo lol


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But a small turbo motor that achieves 270RWHP will generally achieve more torque than an N/A 270RWHP
im not tryin to argue that. but if its true why do i have 230 hp & 330lb but my friends 2.5t makes 276hp and 270lb. if two engines one, a small turbo engine. and the other a large naturally aspirated engine if they both have exactly 300hp shouldnt the bigger engine make more torque?


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im not tryin to argue that. but if its true why do i have 230 hp & 330lb but my friends 2.5t makes 276hp and 270lb. if two engines one, a small turbo engine. and the other a large naturally aspirated engine if they both have exactly 300hp shouldnt the bigger engine make more torque?


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Greater displacement. Its well known that the buick 3.8L Turbo motors made more torque than TPI motors did, and in the same power band too.

The TTA 3.8 was rated at 250hp @ 4400rpm, and and 340lb/ft torque @ 2800rpm. That TQ comes in even sooner than it does on a TPI 350 car under boost. And we all know that the TTA motors were under-rated since they pushed the TA to mid 13's @ 101mph officially.
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ooo i thought it was because factory gm heads have small intake ports resulting in torque early in the rpm range. *palm to forehead*


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im not tryin to argue that. but if its true why do i have 230 hp & 330lb but my friends 2.5t makes 276hp and 270lb. if two engines one, a small turbo engine. and the other a large naturally aspirated engine if they both have exactly 300hp shouldnt the bigger engine make more torque?


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You keep changing how much hp your car makes with every post.
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You keep changing how much hp your car makes with every post.
dude STFU with your bitch as$ knitpicking you sound like the grouchy old man on the block that narcs on kids for smoking.
230 hp is what my car left the factory with.
200 hp is how much i assume i have left after 24 years of abuse.
150 hp is how much i assume i currently put to the ground.
each number i put is relative to my power output .so please if u have any other comments feel free to bottle them up inside because i have no respect for your opinion and have no intent on ever replying to you again. good day sir


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Wow. Children, children....
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Originally Posted by 88FormulaF_Bomb
im not tryin to argue that. but if its true why do i have 230 hp & 330lb...
It depends on where your getting those readings from. If your getting those two readings at the same exact RPM range down low then that is normal, but if your getting 330 pound feet of torque down low, and 230 horsepower up top, then what this should be telling you is that your engine, potentially, should be making more horsepower than that, but the reason why it isn't is because it can't breath. Remember, horsepower is calculated torque, but both rely on a certain amount of air and fuel to make their numbers, and as RPM increases, the demand for more air and fuel increases. Otherwise it becomes stagnant...
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Wow. Children, children....
It doesn't bother me, I understand he is working with some mental issues right now, as well as some family issues. It's unfortunate, but he has to show his emuscles because that's all he's got. Plus, it's funny to see a troll get angry .
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