92RSMuscle

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what can us v6 guys street race and beat? cuz i wanna know who to mess with and who not to
thanks
im not sure if im on the right board, but in the street racing, most people have v8

Camar_Hunter_c

I have a few mods granted, and a 5 speed which REALLY HELPS.

Alot(if not most)Imports, even with a few mods.
quite a few 305 TBI's and Carbs
cars that you can see have alot of HP, but no traction control at all. Case in point a '77 chevelle W/454 and 7 inch wide tires.... No traction, I beat it 3 lights in a row.

1991tealRSt-topGuy

i dont think bad tractuion is gonna drop a 454 chevelle into the 17's

15's maybe

but 17's no

1991tealRSt-topGuy

i'm gonna be dead honest with you here

honestly not much considering the V6's are 17 second cars

most new mini-vans run mid 16's now-a-days

if you realllllly wanna race your V6............loose some weight by pulling out all that stereo gear

thats not gonna help you at all

your on the right board

if you like your V6 and think it has potential invest in these power adders:

cam
headers
k&n's
3.73 rear gears
better torque converter (if automatic)
better clutch (if manual)
roller rockers
pulleys
custom PROM
hi-flow cat
cat-back exhaust
even a larger V6 like a 3.4
better ignition

with ALL these, the best i think you'll see is low 15's

so, please, play your cards carefully

its up to YOU what you would like to do

after i thought about all this, i decided its too much money to spend to run only 15's, so i bought a Z28

again, if you want to, do it

some day, when i have enough money, i'm gonna fool around trying to make my V6 perform

but for now, money talks and walks

hope this helps

Camar_Hunter_c

Pay no attention to this troll. He actually USED to be a nice guy, But now he thinks cause he got himslef a V8 hes hot $hit.

Unlike this person I HAVE a V8 (building a 377) for my T Top 91, and I still HELP V6'ers!.

You can get a fast V6, say 14's with a little $$$, maybe 13's with juice. But thats about it. Bbut 14/13 1/4's is no slouch.

1991tealRSt-topGuy

that was a cheap shot

i STILL help V6er's

go look at some current posts, smart-***



instead of people like you, promising V6 performance parts, then slowly weening off

1991tealRSt-topGuy

eat your heart out, wise-guy


https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=113789

1991tealRSt-topGuy

whose a troll?


https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=113652

1991tealRSt-topGuy

look man, i can argue all night about whats better

but i'm not a 25 year old with the mind of a 10 year old like you are buddy



suggestion for the 377 build-up:

the builder should GROW UP

OnixV6

i would suggest you race at the track instead. more safe and controlled environment. you could win a lot in the brackets if you're consistent even against V8's. we'll be at Englishtown this coming Saturday for the Camaro/Firebird VS Mustang event. we have a bunch of V6 F-bodies showing up from our club.

WaynesRS

AMEN MAN !!!! I don't know you very well , but you just gained ALOT of respect from me !!! Too many lives lost street racing .

AFrikinGoodTime

Camaro V6's will beat most through the curves if semi modified suspension. The V6 is so light.

Hre's my theory- If a heavier V8 goes from 80 to 40 then back to 80mph through a turn, a light weight V6 can do 80, then braking later than the heavier V8 car, slow to only 45 (not 40) carrying more speed through the corner and then only accelerating 35mph back to 80. You'll out drive a V8 any day of the week on a track and not over heat your tires and brakes as easily.

Camar_Hunter_c

first off your point on pointing out throse threads? Was it to show "hey I do help"?
Yeah... Right.. 2 good and how many bad is it now? 7..8..9..10?.. Hell I stopped counting. It seems to me that you like to bash your V6 every chance you get.

You think you are Hot Shiznit cause low and behold you bought a Z28... Woop Pee... What do you want? A cookie perhaps?... Seems to me your the one that needs to grow up alittle. I do alot to help the guys on this board. How you EVER got to be a moderator I will never know, you sure as hell don't derserve it.

AND FYI, Ask DeadHero8 about the headers he got. Keep up with the times man. I have them in production now. Get over yourself, your not as hot as you think you are. Trust me.

"but i'm not a 25 year old with the mind of a 10 year old like you are buddy"

Well I doubt you are over 20, meanwhile I am 26 to be exact. And Yes I went off the boards for 3-4 weeks, and got convinced to come back by a freind of mine.

And to those that do read this, I got the EGR thing fixed today, so I can mount a plate to it.

Ahh back to you Teal... Teal you remind me alot like someone else that does not frequent the boards much anymore, not neccesarily by what you write, but in general attitude. Wanna know who that person is? Monkie. (Thats a low blow) <--Just FYI.

Oh, and another thing, while no its not blindingly fast, but a 2.8 has pulled off a 14.7 WITHOUT JUICE, so add that 75 shot and be lookin at 13's. I would like to get my V6 into the 13's and yes it CAN be done, and NOT FOR ALOT of money either. This is the computer age my freind(NOT) you can get anything pretty damn cheap if you know where to look. IE EBAY. I got my turbo AND intercooler for $110. Injectors (33 and 56 bucks-2 sets of 8)

And for my car to embarrass V8's like it does now for under 200 in mods is well... embarrassing(for them) I simply LAUGH MY A$$ OFF at them.

SO next time TROLL try to be more creative in tring to come up with insults, it's embarrassing.

1991tealRSt-topGuy

shiznit no, proud of myself because i finally got one yes

i've taken so much crap from so many people about buying a V6 camaro

it wasnt even my original intent to buy a V6 camaro

i wish it NEVER happened



yeah, ok, i claim to have a 15 second V6 camaro
a 12 second mustang
and my dad has a 2003 cobra

ummmmm yeah ok

I TELL THE TRUTH

IF YOU DONT WANT TO HEAR THE TRUTH, DONT LISTEN TO ME

THATS ALL I ASK

IF YOU ASK ME SOMETHING, I AM NOT GOING TO LIE TO YOU TO PACIFY YOU LIKE A LITTLE CHILD

IT SEEMS YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE FAITH IN YOURSELF IF IT HURTS YOUR FEELINGS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE I AM MAKING FUN OF V6'S





WOAH MAN, MY V6 CAMARO IS SOOOOOOOOOOO FAST!!!!! DUDE, WHERES MY CAR?


NOW, i know why kids made fun of me for having a V6 camaro, cuz of children like you!

Camar_Hunter_c

First off you have no effect on my feelings at all. (there goes your ego again) And it must be nice to have Daddy get you everything. Sorry the rest of us are not spoiled little rich brats like yourself.

And when did I lie to anybody? I tell it like it is.

Actually I know why people made fun of you, and its not cause you had a V6 camaro.. it cause your a winney A$$ BITACH!:sillylol: :sillylol:

If you dislike your V6 so much PLEASE GET RID OF IT. It will do us all a favor. Go drive daddies cars!

And I would love to see a stock "Cobra" run 12's... the fastest I have seen is mid 13's... STOCK.. and with a GOOD driver. not a kid out for a joy ride in daddy's car!.

The last time I raced a kid in Daddy's Mustang I nearly chopped the car in half. I was in a 76 G20 VAN and this kid wanted to really race. Sadly I won, cause he lost control slid into my lane sideways, I then gunned it and ripped the car to pieces!. I got a busted headlight and a warning from a cop to be carefull and more watchfull of other traffic. I LOVED ISSUING DEATH TO A MUSTANG :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:

TomP

Onix, ouch, it's this Saturday? I might have to pass on meeting you guys, dammit. (Planned to work on my 1/4 panel.) What time does this Etown thing start? Any way I can get into the pits (where I assume you guys will be) without racing?

1991tealRSt-topGuy

man, you need to take some smart pills

I dont have those 3 cars i listed

i was refering to monkie, you babbling bufoon

you know what my daddy gave me?

the basic rudimentary chords to play guitar



my cars and my belongings are 100% ME

the 97 RS is my dads

he wont let me even touch it

i put it in my signature because its a significant car

1991tealRSt-topGuy

i would get rid of the damn thing except that i can't get more that jack-**** for it because its a V6




you dont know how bad i would like to sell it and buy another V8 car


and i never said you were a liar

i said that i give my HONEST opinions on things

if you dont like my opinions SHUT YOUR FU(KING CAKEHOLE AND IGNORE THEM

i'm still a nice guy.....................................its just that latley people dont like MY opinions, so they start **** with me, like you just did above

WHY DONT WE KEEP TO THE SUBJECT AT HAND AND NOT ATTACK THREAD RESPONDERS OPINIONS

EVERYBODY HAS AN OPINION, I DO, YOU DO, AND WE'RE ALL ENTITLED TO THEM

THE LINE IS CROSSED WHEN SOMEONE ATTACKS ANOTHER PERSON BECAUSE OF THEIR OPINION

Camar_Hunter_c

Monkie wanna be, the orginal question was as follows..."what can us v6 guys street race and beat? cuz i wanna know who to mess with and who not to
thanks
im not sure if im on the right board, but in the street racing, most people have v8"

I unlike you answered and gave a list of cars. You simply went into V6 bashing mode, spuing the typical get a V8 Shiznit.

You wanna know why I went after you? You went after me. I did not say a word to you untill you started arguing with me.

The thread maker WAS NOT ASKING FOR OPPINIONS. HE WAS LOOKING FOR FACTUAL CARS THAT THE V6 CAN BEAT. SO NEXT TIME KEEP YOUR CAKEHOLE SHUT AND KEEP YOUR OPPINIONS TO YOURSELF AND PAY ATTENTION TO THE THREADS QUESTION.

Now going back to the prob YOUR having selling YOUR V6, well lets see it is really worth near anything what your tring/wanting to sell it for? Probly not. You cannot sell a POS car for alot of money. Case in point I paid 650 for my 91 T Top, no it is not I great shape, but it ran and I can handle whats wrong with it. The body is in good shape, and it only really needs a hatch extension(Which I got off Ebay for $20, and some minor floor pan rust fixed) I decided to go a step further and scap the worthless TBI system in favor of TPI. Then I decided to go to a bigger engine. So all the $$$ I have commited to it now was my decision. Hell I coulda just fixed the T Tops, got it running good and resold it for $3K as a T Top in good shape will easily get that around here.

And not so long ago someone here got alot of $$ for their V6. I want to say 3500? I think it was somewhere around that, but it was also in primo shape. SO if your tring to sell a ragged out V6 "Beater" for 4 grand, DUH its not gonna happen.


And do yourself a favor and drop this, your just gonna get in deeper.

1991tealRSt-topGuy

anyways..........thats the problem

the V6 RS is in really nice shape

i put so much $$ into it too

i'm not saying $4000

but it hurts if i can only get $1000

i was thinking $2500

but the V6 and hi-mileage kills that



if i ever get the Z28 on the road, i honestly probably will convert the RS to a 3.4 and start playing around with it

the heads bother me.......their way too restrictive

i also want to make my own intake.......kinda like your mini-ram idea

where i take a bottom manifold and weld some sort of a larger, more dircet box on top of it and then re-locate everything that normally sits in between the upper and lower manifolds

Ex-Ford guy

Well lets see, Im gonna ignore all this violence lol and answer the dudes question. . . So far I nailed 2 cars, some age Pontiac Fiero, and some kinda Lincoln <-----It was more than fair though cuz he had a v8 and already had a running start I was taking off from a complete stop at a light. And yes ladies and gentleman they were victorious : ) No lost ones to mention. And not to be salty, but why are we busting on the same make of cars just cuz they got different motors, at least they are both Pontiacs and not Hondas or sumtin with front wheel drive. Fight nicely. Late.

RPS

i once beat a viper.....





















in my dreams

OnixV6

event is from 9AM - 3PM. i'll be there early. i hate waiting in line for tech inspection. we will be parked by the pizza place if we get knocked out of the rounds. if we're still in, we'll be in the staging lanes. stop by and say hi. i'll be in my 4th gen, though. my Berlinetta is not yet ready. to recognize me, check out the the group pic in www.firebirdv6.com homepage. i'm on the leftmost with the smiley t-shirt.

RPS

lol but realy... i have beaten an
Mitsubishi galant -he almost wrecked me
Nissan maxima- manual, chirped second
dodge daytona 3.0
95 honda civic ex
95 ford probe GT
87 camaro 2.8 manual -by a long shot
i havent kept track of all the races
the other weekend i raced this what looked like a cherried out chevelle(nice paint, rumbly exhaust) but it seemed to be missing *****, cuz i jumped from it off the line and at around 60 we were door to door and he inched past up to 80 mph i could have beaten him if i didnt have a passenger, or my stereo equipment

this weekend i want to go to 75 80 to see what slug runs


by the way... calm down u 2.....

RPS

me and a friend were going to hobby town in glen burnie, on the highway there was a 4 gen black firebird, on my tail, the traffic opened up and i hit it... he followed me and i assume he was goosin it 2... i got her up to the speed limiter and looked back he was 4 cars back, and when hit the limiter i pulled off to another lane and he flew by me... i assmed it was an out of tune stock v6. we were both flying by other traffic switching lanes, going around a big turn.

i dont know what year, but it had the ram air style hood on it

Monkie

What happened Hunter? I thought you and Teal were best butt buddies. Awww, relationships don't last forever I guess. Hunter you remind me alot of someone else I know... And believe me he is just as stupid as he looks. He also believes that he can put a turbo off of a Semi truck onto a Honda Del Sol. You might want his number to talk to him about turbo stuff, since you know so much. And Teal, don't think I am taking your side cause boy you don't want me getting started on your little bitch ***. Monkie out

Monkie

****, you wish. Only thing your little ***** *** ride can take is a Metro on its bad day. You raced a mustang it lost control broke in half and a cop let you off with a warning? LMAO Stupid little boy, race my Mustang on the strip or on the road course. I'll rip you a new one on both. And you don't even want me to bring out daddy's car. Get lost little boy, and take Teal with you.

Camar_Hunter_c

Yes he did cause the accident was ot MY FAULT. the kid lost control he slid into my lane(Skid marks on the road proved this fact so the cop could do nothing to me.

Monkie you contribute NOTHING to the boards. Must I point out that your "Cobra" Was labeled as a regular MUSTANG by someone on your mustang boards?... GO AWAY. And monkey(more like jack ***) I would be more then happy to race both of your daddies mustangs, cause it sure as hell aint yours!, you did not pay for it!.

Yet again Monkie you just need to be BANNED!.

Monkie

1: you posted **** about me first so there for I did not start this bitch
2: you come find out if my Mustang is a Cobra or not, I think you will figure it out about the time I pop the clutch at the light
3: I work 2 jobs to pay for my car, my girl, and mods for my car. Something you would have no idea about.

Red91Bird

I see we are getting along still

Camar_Hunter_c

1st I did not say as DAMN THING to YOU. I refered to YOU ONLY. So this was all started by YOU.

2nd I could really care less if you have a cobra or not. YOU DO NOT BELONG ON THESE BOARDS. YOU cause noting but trouble and 90% of the post YOU get involved in get LOCKED. Simple fact.

3rd I got to college FULL TIME, and I have 2 part time jobs, plus alot of stuff on the side. However I still come here to HELP other guys. YOU come to start trouble.

And the diesel turbo on a NON diesel engine is JUST FINE. There is no difference between the 2. Despite what you think. They both have the same parts, designed by the same people and made the same way, and STILL HAVE THE SAME EFFECT. They BOTH CREATE BOOST.

I think you need to down the boost alittle, your head can't hold your ego.

Camar_Hunter_c

Foe the most part yes. But Monkie causes nothing but trouble no matter where he goes...

zer0321

hmmm....i'll just ignore the flame war and answer the original question as best I can:

well, assuming your car runs well and is not ragged out, I could imagine you could give the following cars a good run for there money:

stock 4cyl honda accords
stock honda civics (as long as it's not a Si....but most aren't)
stock 4cyl fox-bodies
most cavaliers and berettas

pretty much anything 96 or newer is a no go (of course there are the exceptions -- hybrids, metros, ford escorts).....I am sure they will correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think I am

I can't see racing many of the cars out there (would you really feel happy with yourself, after beating a Dodge Caravan...or worse, after losing to one)

like many people around here say, the car is only 1/2 the race....keep in mind that the driver plays a very big part of the race (and just because the rich kid's parents bought him a new car doesn't mean he's good at driving it) *cough* like someone we know around here *cough*

and when in doubt, their's always sabotage!
j/k

laegion

first of all I want to start answering this question by saying, that when gm put v6's in f-body's they commited blasphemy. it's sick and wrong and I feel very bad for anyone who owns such a sick strange beasts. gm should upgrade you guys to v8's for free, just because it's a sick joke to have such wussy v6's in sports/"muscle" cars. I have personally driven an 89 v6 firebird, while the car is nice itself, the damn thing is gutless, even an lg4 is gutless in my opinion. and I'm glad I have never actually owned a v6 f-body. but you guys have one thing working in your favor, and that is that other car manufacturers, are even more sick than gm and for some reason seem to love four cylinders, so you guys can actually waste some people. especially if you have a manual. so here are the cars I know you can beat.

4 cyl mustangs, stick and auto.
pretty much any stock *****, as long as you have the 5 speed advantage, and especially if they don't.
pretty much all 4doors, except early 90's pontiacs with v6's.
don't mess with beretta's lumina's, or cavaliers that are from the late eighties, or early ninties, if they have a Zxx designation of some sort. and don't mess with two door culass supremes from the early 90's
don't race eagle talons, mitsubishi eclypses, or 3000 gt's,

I suggest if you have a v6 that you stick to racing lower import models, and economy cars/vans older than the mid 90's. because basically you have an economy model yourself.

or if you actually wanna peel out when it's dry out and be able to wup some cars with *****, get a v-8. mabee like this one lol.



oh yeah and to the guy who said that a v6 can outhandle a v8 because it's lighter. your a frigging moron, having a v6, upsets the weight bias and I can tell you I can take 90 degree corners at way over 50, but I havn't much yet because frankly I'm afraid of breaking loose because of my skinny 215's. not to mention racing a v8, even if your little theory was even partly correct, and the v-8 car did have to slow down that much you would need like a 20 mph advantage to even come close to wupping the v-8 around the corners, it would eat up that little tiny 5 mile an hour advantage like ricers on friday night.

AFrikinGoodTime

Here we go again, another punk 20 yr old explaining the world to me.

1) Do you have ANY racing experience other than T.V.?

2) I own a Championship Auto-X vette w/ a 540hp 327ci v8 that twists to 8500rpm's. My wifes little Camaro V6 will hang right with this caron an Auto-X course with only 140 hp!

3) I'd most certainly eat you for lunch on an Auto-X circuit With those crappy know it all 215 tires you have.

4) I can't believe I'm even giving you the time of day, Starting to Question my sanity.

Deviate4420

Damn so what's the story the're does the camaro have some kind of mods to make the suspension top knotch?

Here's an idea everyone who's just gonna fight, go eat some sh*t!!!

I'm saying f*ck V8's,My next engine's gonna be a 3.8 turbo.350 hp with the light weight and fuel efficiency of a V6, plus i like the way turbos run .My friend has an eagle talon turbo and my 6 will hang right with it but then you'll see where the turbo kicks in cuz he'll pull ahead.

Most of my friends drive ricers so i don't just sit back with a bunch of my buddies who drive camaros and firebirds and put down ricers and not have to worry about anyone defending them like probably alot of ppl who drive f-bodys do.I have to defend mine sometimes and it gives me an honest edge on the competition.My one friend has a quote "Ovhead cams, the replacement for displacement".I don't know much about engines or anything but i know that's the secret of what makes alot of those 4 cylinders run the way they do.So this might sound stupid but has anything been done to use this with bigger engines.

Also about beating a Viper,I heard Vipers are nothing but top end speed and have nothing off the line cuz they have no traction and just spin the tires,is this true?

laegion

if a v6 f-body can handle, it's because it's an fbody, it has not a damn thing to do with that it's a v6, cuase that isnt' going to help at all.

oh yeah and if you have a vette and it can't out race a wussy v6 camaro, then there is either something wrong with you or the car cuz my car would tear it up corners and all.

laegion

uhhh dude the people who designed the viper knew what they where doing, so I'm sure with a half way competent person behind the wheel it could beat just about any production car. do you know how big the rear tires are on those things? oh yeah and there is no replacement for displacement! or number of cylinders. more cylinders=more torgue with a stock setup and a better place to start from when building an engine. modded v6's can build an impressive amount of hp, but when it comes to torque they fall very short, and that's why they suck. oh yes and overhead cams are the same way they boost hp output at the expense of torque. and torque is what you want. torque is what wins races. hell hp is just a measurement of tq over time.

AFrikinGoodTime

Laegion, Why don't you tell us alittle bit about yourself. What I mean is How old are you? What racing experience you have? What hands on chassis setup or schooling you've had? What type of performance minded cars you have owned or even just driven? What you Know about "weight bias"?(That one is a joke, we already know the answer from what you said above. For your info, A V6 is closer to 50/50 than a V8 car and is lighter.)

If you can even still attempt to bullsh*t your way through an answer to this, you should think twice and shut the fu(k up-- you have already proven your ignorance.

TomP

Laegion, you're one to talk! Plenty of your fellow V8 buddies think the LG4 motor is a complete joke. They even have a cute nickname for it... oh, what's it called? Oh yeah. LG-*****? And you've got the CFI? That's another intake system that your fellow V8 buddies joke about. To most of them, you're already two strikes out, and might as well have a V6! GM should upgrade you to a TPI V8 for free. Now hold on; I can hear you already- "CFI can be tuned to make millions of HP". I know it can, people have done impressive things with the CFI, as well have done things with the LG4. It'd be interesting to see what You could do.

90 degree corners at over 50 mph... :sillylol: Yeah, sure. What you don't know is your little tires are skidding out to the side, and you're probably getting more understeer than you think- good thing, too, because you'd flip the car. Do you even know what understeer is? Or do you double-clutch during the turns?

Oh well; just another one of those "v8 posers" that I always talk about. Notice the usual "intelligent" comments:

1. "No replacement for displacement": As if we didn't know! Call the press!!

2. "more cylinders=more torque": Another shocker. The v8 has two more power strokes than a V6. I wonder if he could name the other three strokes?

Monkie

A V6 will handle better than a V8 due to the less weight on the front. My suggestion to solve all of your problems.....3.8L turbo. Cant go wrong there. :hail:

Deviate4420

Actually i have seen the back tires on a viper I just saw one at wal mart the other day (i guess evan rich ppl gotta buy stuff they sell at wal mart) and i commented on how it must have had like 18X10's on the back, If u wanna be a smart a$$ about it.

1991tealRSt-topGuy

intake, compression, power, exhaust

WaynesRS

All this trash talking about having a V6 should never happen in here . The topic of this thread is "V6 racing questions " The topic IS NOT " Come in and tell me why I should not race my V6 " . And I really dont give a ratts *** , if you come in here and say "oh no offence but.." or "v6's are good but you really need a V8 . I think if the thread starter of this topic wanted to hear "go get a V8 " or told "the V8 is better for racing " I think he would have gone in the Motor swap board .Or the topic of this thread would have been " what should I race with a V8 or V6 " . BUT thats not the topic . The topic is " V6 RACING QUESTIONS "

But coming in here and saying "oh no offence but , you really need and V8 " or "your wussy V6 " Or " I feel sorry for you guys" ...That would be just like if I told TomP ..."Oh no offence Tom but your car is really ugly . ....WHICH its not , I have seen it its pretty sharp looking ! , Im just using this as an example Tom !

laegion

ugh, v6 cars have the weight bias upset in the opposite way v8's do they are lighter in the front, whick means the front wheels won't stick as well as the rear. and a v8 can have an almost perfect weight bias with an sfc hood. but that isn't the point, v6's are still fbody's. and are still going to handle well. they just squeal the front tires around corners easier. and actually I don't have cfi, becuase you moron if I did I would have an lu5, not an lg4 ok. I had an lu5 82 z28, and I agree lg4's are a joke. I plan on upgrading it from stock as soon as possible because it's gutless. oh yes, and my friend with an 84 z28 with barely modded suspention, takes 90 degree turns at like 75 easy without even chirping his 215's. and no it doesn't even lean. and to be honest (even though I already said this) I don't take 90 degree corners at more than 40 in my car because I don't want the rear end to slide out, becuase it's hard to keep traction in turns with a 5-speed and 215's.

as for performance cars i've driven.

82 z28 cfi, 3 speed auto

84 z28 carbed 350 4 speed auto

86 transam ws6, with an lb9

84 transam ws6, with an lg4 and a five speed.

65 vw bug with front and rear swaybars, takes 90 degree corners at 45 or 50 without chirping or swaying.

can't think of any others right now. but i'm sure i'll let you guys know when I do. lol.

and agian I say if a v6 camaro can hang with your vette then your vette sucks. what year is it by the way.

you guys are so insecure about your v6's it's pathetic. so don't attack me when I say they're slow, because it's true. I was just giving an honest opinion from personal experience what you guys can beat and what you can't. and oh yeah you guys can tear up 88 sc's all day, that' should make you feel better.

WaynesRS

We're not insecure . Im proud of mine . It just gets old guys like yourself coming in giving us your oppinions when they prabably smell like a buthole . i say prabably because I've never smelled one before . But Im sure its just like your **** poor attitude and oppinion

WaynesRS

Look Tom ! His friend can do 90 degree turns at 75 ! :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:

And here is my kill list : 1998 Dodge Viper
2000 Lamborghini Diablo
2002 porsche 911 gt
2002 Ferrari F55 spyder

:sillylol:

Monkie

BTW a V8 doesn't handle better cause the weight is on the front tires and makes them stick better. It handles worse cause the weight makes it harder to steer and makes the brakes work more. Then say hello to brake fade.

WaynesRS

I like the new stang Monkie ! I was checkin out the pics yesterday . Looks tough looking !

stuart69427

you know its bad when Tom starts bashing

teal,SHUT UP BEFORE YOU FIND A SIZE TEN AND A HALF UP YOUR A$$ cuase if you scare Camaro_Hunter_D away from the board agian, i will personally come over to New Jersey and kick your a$$. Try talking trash to me moron.

Monkie, i personally don't know you, but you seem like a jackass to me. This **** is really getting on my nerves. "If you can't walk the walk, then don't talk the talk!"

I personally have taken:

Older style Ford Probe GT
Newer Eclipsce
Friends Station Wagen (I know, he thought he was cool though)
Friends 85 Inline 4 mustang LX (In fact i still think hes at the starting line )