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First, this thread isn't trolling, though it is sure to stir up some strong feelings.

I bring this up because every time I find a thread with no replies in Tech / General Engine, it's V6.

Sometimes the answer is V6-specific, sometimes no. But us V8 guys have no clue, so when we discover that the OP is V6, we move on to interesting threads.

Even now that I own a V6, and I've driven a few 2.8 third gens before, to me, I'm still a V8 guy. And every 305 I've ever driven has proven inadequate or disappointing or both. To me, a 2.8 is nearly half an engine, and a 305 is 7/8 of an engine. 7/8 rounds up, but less than 50% does not.
It's this way for most F-car guys as well. About 85% of all F-cars ever built came with V8s, and about 85% of those were the 350. In the years when there was no 350 option, at least buying a 305 made it easier to swap to a 350.
I think it needs revised to Tech / General V8 Engine, or Tech / General Engine EXCEPT V6!

I concede that your 140 HP 3.1 will often beat a 145 HP LG4. You are 200# lighter, and you have a 3.42:1 axle rather than a 2.73:1 like the LG4. Assuming both are stock and 700R-4.
But the 350 is a helpful drug that most of you are unfortunate enough to have never sampled. At least not in a third gen. Once you do, you see the truth about the 60-degree V6. It's lame.

58mark

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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/v6/588179-why-v6.html

Base91

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A reply!!!

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I think V6 owners deserve help, and I extremely appreciate the help I get. But we need to direct them here where their answers are, not leave them hanging.
They see the V8 stuff getting answers, and they start to wonder if this is a V8-only club that merely tolerates V6 lurkers.
Worse, it's their own fault for not posting here in the V6 section!

Base91

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Yes V8s are more popular and have one of the best sounds on Earth but V6s have a place too. I had a 455HO, TH400 and posi in a '67 conv F'bird so the V6 in my (was my son's but he went off to college) current 'Bird was very disappointing. At first. The more I came to know about it the more interesting it got. I'm also building it up for auto-x and so doing all I can to lighten the front end. As stated before the V6 has a huge advantage right there. Plus I think you have to drive better and concentrate on the handling to compete with the V8s (and Miatas). Plus, the things that can be done to the V6, especially the hybrid builds and turbo/super charging, to produce respectable amounts of power are more interesting than the been done a million times V8 mods. ronnjonn is right that V8 guys are not usually interested in V6 stuff but there is a separate forum so, if there is a specific V6 question it has a natural home. However, it's not a ghetto where the V6 folks have to be confined. As for moving on to more interesting threads that's what we all do. Probably no-one can read, let alone follow, more than a very small percentage of posts anyway. Scanning subject lines is an art to develop.

Project 3.4 Camaro

The only non lame stock engines to come in these cars were the TPIs, with mods any of them can be quick, except maybe the duke. And what exactly is the purpose? Anyway, with the aluminum heads these engines should have had, power output would probably be around 175 hp, and 205 tq for a mpfi 2.8, which is kind of close to the v8s if you ask me. And the 3.4 starts off with 160 and 200, aluminum heads on that is probably good for 200 and 240, thats 305 tpi territory considering the weight difference, also the v6 cars have better poise, I've not driven one, but I've been in a v8 car, and it seemed awfully tailhappy compared to my sixer.
Also I am pretty sure you were wrong about your production #s, I am near certain that the 350s are in fact one of the rare engine options due to year. I think something like 50% of these cars are v6 cars, 305s would be the next most common most likely.

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If you don't want the V6 to be a confined ghetto, then get more of the v6 experts into Tech / General Engine more often, answering ALL the V6 threads there.

Guest

I typed F-cars, including the other 3 generations.
And tailhappy at WOT is part of the fun. Want the tail in place, lift throttle to like 80% of WOT.
( I'll have pics of your bracket and bolt up in about 5 minutes, I'll be mailing them in about 20. )

Project 3.4 Camaro

Alright, I am going to my mother's after she gets off work today and will be able to check for the CSI then, should be able to mail it tuesday.
And I like going sideways too, but only if its by choice, I like my handling, balanced and poised, something that can go around a corner fast facing the right way, or the wrong way, but only facing the wrong way if I make it do it or push it too hard.

Base91

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That would be ideal but we can't force them. Can we? It's not like they have anything else to do. TGO is ALL!

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Exactly. We can't get the V6 experts to the threads, so the alternative: let's bring the threads to the experts.
And I can sit here all day when business is slow. Some days I don't even get here at all. Business picks up enough to make ends meet.

jensen73110

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All thirdgen engines are lame, including the L98. A whoppin' 30 hp per liter. Woo! That's why we all work with what we've got. The ONLY benefits to the v8 cars are better sound, better aftermarket support, and easier to swap in a good engine. (yes, those are all nice benefits...)

-JMAN-

Seems like 85% of the F-cars were built wrong...
haha kiddin man, but theres just something about making a v6 fast, and driving it down the road...
you can almost get a buzz from it.

Project 3.4 Camaro

l98 has some pretty good potential imo..

kukerdan

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My 88 was a base V6 auto... Bought it in great shape fr 300$ from my lifelong Italian Barber. He bought it new for his wife in 88, and it had 100K on it when I drove it out of his driveway home. I was in love.

The Light weight, and far far back mounting of the 2.8 gives the car a near perfect 50/50 and I was never able to shake it, and never lost control (see suspension mods)

I blew up the tranny in an incident involving racing a merkur and a 6 point buck in the middle of the road.... I bought a stage 1 totally rebuilt beefed and acid dipped 700r4 off ebay with a stall coverter and i made that 2.8 pretty fun to drive, and I took plenty of ricers and dogged 305 cars in the light to light with that tranny.

Having said that , It now has a 96 OBD2 LT1 with a tricked pcm, all the delete pullys / block offs u can shake a stick at, and the nicest exhaust I ever conceived .
I upgraded the front springs to the stiff V8 Iroc Springs, and Changes the rear struts to Tokico HP Blue..... I have single rate v8 Rear moogs I could put in, but its sitting level with my rather new moog cargo control progressive rears.... not sure which I want to end up with
Its about ready to register, and you can bet your pants, no matter how many thousands you spend on your 60* v6, its just a little turd compared to the motor the car was built to have...... the LEGENDARY 350 !

Pillsbry10

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almost every thread that is in the tech/general section ends up getting moved over to the v6 section instead. the mods do this becuase most of the v6 people are...in the v6 section. also becuase they will get less "you need a v8" comments if they are moved to the v6 section.

its a confined ghetto becuase the v8s are the majority everywhere else on this board