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Old Oct 24, 2002 | 07:51 PM
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about how much horsepower is obtainable by adding a full superram intake to a mild modded 350?
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Old Oct 26, 2002 | 09:08 PM
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Approximately $100/1horsepower. A comlete waste of money and common sense...on a mildy modded L98. Better to do smart things 1st such as cam and heads before going with SR unless your getting a great deal. There are better alternatives to SuperRam. See "TRAXION"s ride for comparison.
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by GTAracer
Approximately $100/1horsepower. A comlete waste of money and common sense...on a mildy modded L98. Better to do smart things 1st such as cam and heads before going with SR unless your getting a great deal. There are better alternatives to SuperRam. See "TRAXION"s ride for comparison.
Did you even read the sig. for the guy who asked the question? He said he's going to be doing a cam and have his heads heads ported in the future. And where in the hell did you get"$100/ hp"? To answer the original question the super ram will get you an average of about 3mph and .3 tenths in the quarter depending on which cam you get. This intake usually gets best results wih a single pattern cam like the LPE 219 cam. Try searching the boards, using "superram", you'll get all kinds of info.
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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camarojoe,
Yes...I read his signature.
About 10 rwhp is virtually what you'll get on a mildly modded L98. He did not say with heads and cam, nor did he say what heads and cam to get with SR, or any of the sort. This is why I included the comment concerning getting heads and cam 1st (to clarify any confusion over the question), since that decides what intake you should use...not the other way around. SR is difficult to work with, and not the best budget choice for power. There are better alternatives. Consider the LT1 intake conversion, or generously ported LTRs and base...which in effect comes strikingly close to the performance gains of the SR.
.3 tenths and 3 mph is about 30 hp for a typical 3rd gen car. Basing that on a LPE cam and SuperRam ($300+$1000)...you do the math.

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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 11:22 PM
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GTAracer,

Maybe I didn't make things clear. The way "mildly modded" is used in this topic could have several meanings depending on how you look at it. Generally a mildly modded 350 would have an upgraded cam and better than stock set of heads, just as no_car_yet stated in his sig that he was working on doing. If this is the definition of a "mildly modded" generally speaking, then a "heavily modded" motor would have a serious set of heads and a huge cam, and would have well over a 1.3/1 hp to c.i. ratio. This of course is a generalized way of terming a engine, but this is according to what I've seen. Anyway, why are you mentioning only getting a 10rwhp number out of the SR, when you know this guy's going to upgrade his setup (heads, cam, intake)? I doubt this guy cares about how well the SR will do now, as he is planning for the future. Also, when I said there would be a .3 tenths and 30 hp gain, I said that's about the average I've seen people get when installing a SR into a motor that has heads/cam, where the setup is not optimized for the intake. With the 219 cam, you could easily see 50-60hp from adding the intake. Either way your equations don't figure to $100/1hp, which you stated earlier, no matter how you look at. Maybe it's me, but my math works out fine.
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Old Oct 27, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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I have the SR and when I changed from my LTR set I felt a hugh diff. in the upper rpm. I know Traxion have done very well with Miniram and custom burned Prom's but all off us cant pass emission with the miniram......
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 07:32 AM
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The way "mildly modded" is used in this topic could have several meanings depending on how you look at it
I consider mildly modded what he has done so far. That's why I reffered to doing heads and cam first before the SR.

Anyway, why are you mentioning only getting a 10rwhp number out of the SR, when you know this guy's going to upgrade his setup (heads, cam, intake)?
He said cam and port his own heads. And I mentioned do his heads and cam first before the SR. I just don't consider a motor without cam and heads modifications a heavily modified engine.

Also, when I said there would be a .3 tenths and 30 hp gain, I said that's about the average I've seen people get when installing a SR into a motor that has heads/cam, where the setup is not optimized for the intake.
That wasn't how I read your post originally. I agree with you on this account.

Additionally, you advised him to do searches on SuperRam, and I advised him to do searches on TRAXION. He should get all the information he needs that way.

In what I consider a mildly modded engine (original cam and heads), he is virtually guaranteed 10 rwhp. At about a thousand bucks for the SR, that comes out to $100/hp...unless he does cam and heads 1st, with the plans of taking advantage of the SuperRam. He could also do a search on MIke Crews and his set up.

camarojoe, I think we sort of agree...just in a different sort of way. I would say though that I think the 74219 cam would be too much using original heads...which I think he states in his Future mods portion of his signature.
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 06:38 PM
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sorry i haven't posted back here for a little while. The "future mods" in my sig is basically stuff that i am doing over this winter whiich starts very soon. The superram is a maybe thing, like if it gives good numbers i will get it. So i will have those mods done by the time the superram gets on. Whats this "miniram" thjat traxxion or someone has? No trouble passing emissions around here...with pretty much anything goes.
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