:hail: This Is Cool !! :hail:

I found this while playing on the net. wish I could get one for a nine bolt.

 

 

Yikes, looks scary!!!

I dont think I will be trading my Ultimate Girdle anytime soon for a product like that.

 

if they make it tough enough for a 4x4 to withstand the abuse that cover will see in brush and ground clearance issues of bottoming out in the mud then id guess they would be strong enough to handle what we do to em on a camaro....looks cool ive never seen one like that i like it

 

Cool...not only can you hear those strange noises in your rear-you can see them in action too..........

 

I read about these covers. They are made from the same material that is used for bullet proof glass. Seems to me that it should be pretty strong.

 

NEAT!

if they're as cheap as a stamped cover, i might get one...
it'll match the clear plastic nosebra... LMAO.......



too bad i already have a TA rear girdle.... im not going to give up strength for the neat cool cover........

but it is cool.



if i got one, id like to put my mini cam under the bumper looking at it.... be really cool if i got the film of me fragging ANOTHER rear... lmao.

 

summit has them in stock for $139.95... ouch...

 

No it is not to bad. These clear covers are just plain worthless.

These clear covers cant be even close to the strength of a TA or Ultimate cover.

Just cuase they wont shetter has nothing to do with how rigid they are.

Not to mention they dont have any means by wich to preload the main caps, which are what usually flex and break if the gears or axes dont give up first.

These are not for the performance crowd, read the stupid add that is posted, it says for daily driver or show vehicle, LMAO.

Runone of these if you want strength, they are the only way to go.

 

I agree with you. I wouldn't use one on a performance car, probably not even a show car, but I guess everyone is entitled to their own taste. For what it cost I would invest in the TA Ultimate.

 

It doesnt matter at all what ones taste might be, when it comes to strength.

When there are people here who are spreading misinformation saying, "oh, these things use he same stuff as bullet proof glass, they must be strong" LOL all they are doing is making an association that is not factually sound.


The only thing the stupid ad claims is that they are impact resistant, LOL that does not mean strong, it just means thaey wont shatter.


I am sure they probably flex a SOB.

12"-16" of loose dirt will stop a bullet, does that mean it is strong? Or does that mean that maybe would want to fashion a mud cover and run it on your axle?

Hell No!!!!

 

do they do the job the same as the stamped steel COVER?

yes. they do. they keep the oil in. they also have the gee-wiz isnt that neat factor of being able to see the level easily.




do they do the same job as a GIRDLE?

hell muda fokin kno!

but they never mentioned girdles... or bracing... or even brought up that subject... its a cover.


cover. cover. cover.

and as long as it doesnt leak, and doesnt shatter from the impact of normal use, then its fine.

i wouldnt put it on any kind of performance car either.... but if it was $20, id stick it on my truck for the hell of it... or use it if i had another rear to explode (like i said above with the minicam)

 

I didn't say it was bullet proof glass, I said it was made out of the same material as bullet proof glass. Read the post carefully before you reply. Anyway, if it isn't strong enough for the advertised application, you wan't have to worry about it because the company that makes it won't be in business long.

You have stated your opinion, which I agreed with, but I still say people have a right to their own taste. You seem like the type of person that just likes to put other's opinions down. Judging from your misspelling of several words, you seem like the typical narrow minded person that keeps a lot of people from posting things that may or may not be useful to others. GROW UP MAN!!!

 

Talk about a problem with self image. You are one of the jokers that posted earlier that they must be stong, and your rational was:
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Talk about spreading ignorance from poor inference, thats what your prior post was all about.

If someone doesnt post or talk about reality often enough people like you get all hyped up and your little sewing circles pass and around all kinds of bogus content.

HMMM, narrow minded, mispelled words, grow up, blah blah blah.


Whatever, you need to get a life, get hobby, get a girlfriend, or whatever it take sto make you happy, but whatever you do stop posting misinformation in a public forum that is used by thousands of people who often take waht they read as truth or worse, infer things from subjects that they have no idea what the facts are.

Now run along little one, actually the kindergarten class in the school down the road from me is having a spelling bee tonight, in your quest for perfection maybe you can find like minded individuals there, LOL.

 

Eliminate the personal attacks from this thread. Consider yourself warned, Ominous and 87cam.

The glass is tough enough to withstand service conditions evidently, which is just fine for a normal diff application. I would say that the stock stamped steel plate does little more than function as a service hatch and provide a tight seal. As far as this cover adding additional stiffness to the diff housing, that's another story.

From my knowledge, "bullet-proof" glass consists of several layers of various transparent plastics and resin. I know there are many patents running for many companies for many materials, and each of these corresponding to some "bullet-proof-ness" standard. Mentioning "bullet-proof" glass doesnt really help us much to determine the material properties of the piece or the overall strength of the piece, but knowing the material thickness might be a good indication of how it's elastic modulus compares to that of the stamped steel or cast aluminum covers.

If we want to discuss something intelligent, great... But next time lets avoid the discussions about our girlfriends, kindergarden, growing up, or other needless phrases mentioned above.

 

Impact modified polycarbonate:
http://www.matweb.com/search/Specifi...?bassnum=O3102

Tensile modulus Polycarbonate: 2-2.3 Gpa (assuming the cover is not composite which it very likely may be)

Tensile modulus Aluminum: ~70 Gpa

 

First I would like to say sorry to Ominous for the personal attack, I think he just misunderstood what I was trying to say. All I was saying was that I thought the covers could do what they are intended to. I normally don't get aggrevated like that.

As for me having a girlfriend, I'm married so there's no problem there. Anyway dead issue, sorry again if I offended Ominous, or anyone else.

 

Polycarbonate is also known as Lexan. That alone can take a bullet. I can dig up a picture of a .45 cal bullet deformed, in a .5" piece of Lexan, ie polycarbonate. This is bulletproof plastic, not a glass. This stuff can be somewhat stiff, but other plastics can be much stiffer. I know this info from Battlebots, which uses plastics a great deal, to keep down weight.

 

Who cares if it is clear/ chrome or polished alum? You can't even SEE the diff covers on an F body unless the car is on a rack with the suspension un-sprung.

 

if any of you guys got the new Summit, it's in there. I know summit usually only stocks items that are not gonna ruin their name due to replacing an item. so w/ summit backing the product, i've found new confidence in this.
definitely bad a5S

 

Don't let their name sway you. I bought a "complete" gasket set from them when I swapped engines, I used the head, valve cover, thermostat & distributor gaskets from the set, In less than a year every one of them failed, Both head gaskets blew, valve cover gasket shrunk 1", dist gasket cracked and leaked as did the T stat gasket...VERY disappointing that the quality was so poor and caused me a ton of extra re-work on my engine.

 

WOW what did you do wrong ive never had a problem with gaskets of any brand what so every did you even use sealer or torque them to spec ???? there must have been some kind of other problem than the gaskets?? its just hard to believe is all im gettin at ...not sayin you dont know what you are doin at all just never had a complete gasket set go bad maybe one gasket but not the whole set...

 

Not all gaskets get sealer but the valve covers did as did the warteneck one. The cork for the valve covers was "green" and when it dried it shrunk 1" lengthwise. The waterneck just split apart as did the distributor gasket and the head gaskets failed on cylinder #'s 1, 7, 2 & 8, the end cylinders. The wire rings seperated from the gasket material at the fwd ends of 1 &2 and the aft ends of 7 & 8. I repalced them with felpro & moroso gaskets and haven't had a problem since.

Poor quality was the reason for failure, none of the other gaskets I used during the build up ever failed (intake, runners, TB headers, etc)

 

did you contact summit about the problem???

 

Of course, I always complain when someone's products are crap...loudly.

 

hey ive had nothing but good luck out of summit parts and products they carry and sell but sounds like youve just got it out for em so im not gonna get into it with anyone about something like gasket sets ...lol...no offence man ..im just tryin to say that not everyone has problems with summit

 

Then you are reading too much into what I said. What I said is just because they put their name on a product doesn't automatically make it a good quality product.
I have been dealing with Summit for 15+ years, sometimes I get bad products/service, usually everything works out.

 

yeah i understand what you mean ......sorry for comming accross that way ....i didnt mean to jump all over ya about it at all....summit has never done me wrong on any thing ive ever had problems with and i admit weve all had problems from time to time with any one that sells parts..lol...but they have always made it right with me ....i must be lucky that ive never had a problem with the cheap gasket sets before ...i dont wanna cause any problems on here ......thats not what were all here for after all right ...sorry bout that man ..:rockon:

 

someone already said it but...

Polycarbonate (also known as the GE name Lexan) is sometimes used as bulletproof "glass".. yes its a plastic.. if you ever seen thoes 2-4" thick bulletproof windows at banks or other high security places, thats what it is. the same stuff is used for race car windshields, motorcycle helmet visors, shatterproof sunglasses, and alot of other high shatterresistant apps.
technicly, its just bulletproof plastic. not glass.

bulletproof glass consists of a layer of glass, then a plastic film, then another layer of glass.. over and over.



in anycase, this cover works just as good as stock. exactly as intended. it seals the back of the housing and doesnt leak. if its thick enough, you could carfully set your 4x4 on it and it will hold it up.
its no girdle, but its neat looking.