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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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Stealthrams and fuel pressure regulators

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Looks like I will be getting myself a Stealthram when I can get my hands on the vortec version.

I dont see anything that doesnt look cut and dried for me to do when I install it except for the FPR.

Anyone do something different, relocate it, or find another one that works and is accesible without being a hassle?

Just looking for some ideas since I know I have around a mth for I can get a intake.

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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 02:07 AM
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When I had the HSR AFPR on my car, it was easily accessable. It was literally right there pointing out from the rear of the fuel rail. It just bolts up if you get the adjustable fuel rail set.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 02:32 AM
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Can u get to the distrib bolt to set the timing and do it without taking 2 hrs ? lol

Just trying to find out all the particulars.

Is the adjustabel reg. different in size/shape than the non adjustable?

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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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AFAIK the regulators are both the same dimensions. I can reach my dist bolt fine, but I have one of those funky wrenches for it.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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The distributor hold down is actually easier to get to than stock from my perspective anyway
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 06:58 PM
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True. There isn't a runner in the way. I bought the funky wrench when I had stock TPI on there, you could probably get to it with a universal on a regular socket with a HSR.
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Old Aug 7, 2005 | 12:57 AM
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OK, that makes sense. I wasnt positive from pictures and I always forget to look on a friends car when I get the chance to see it lol.

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Now I'm just waiting from someone to have them in stock again lol
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Old Sep 2, 2005 | 08:31 PM
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check out my thread on hsr fuel rails. i got a reply with good pics of a better adj fpr and some info on getting it installed.
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Old Sep 3, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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When I had HSR, I reached the dizzy hold down bolt with a regular 9/16 wrench. It was wayyy easier than with a TPI.
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Old Sep 4, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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The stock AFPR is a piece of junk. Mine would not hold pressure and would let gas seep out, plus it was also a pain to get to. I bought a Kirban Performance AFPR (it's made for GN's) and it works wonderfully, but is still a pain to adjust. The distributor hold down bolt is real easy to get to now by using a 14 mm wrench with a dip.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 06:22 AM
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I bought a Kirban Performance AFPR (it's made for GN's) and it works wonderfully

Do you have part number? Got any pics of it installed?
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 08:51 AM
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Car: 86 Monte SS (730,$8D,G3,AP,4K,S_V4)
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I believe he's talking about this one.
Part #6547
https://www.kirbanperformance.com

You guys have me really worried about the one that came with my rails so I might just pick one of these up too.

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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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From: Browns Town
Car: 86 Monte SS (730,$8D,G3,AP,4K,S_V4)
Engine: 406 Hyd Roller 236/242
Transmission: 700R4 HomeBrew, 2.4K stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 Posi, 7.5 Soon to break
I don't understand why the regulator would be hard to adjust.
Are you mounting them on the other side?
This is how I have mine setup to go in and it should be cake to adjust.
Attached Thumbnails Stealthrams and fuel pressure regulators-hsr-fp.jpg  
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by JP86SS
I don't understand why the regulator would be hard to adjust.
Are you mounting them on the other side?
This is how I have mine setup to go in and it should be cake to adjust.
Believe the Holley instructions say to mount it with the adj'er pointing the other way, that is how I have mine installed and it sucks to adj, will give it the switcharu next time I have it apart.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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From: Browns Town
Car: 86 Monte SS (730,$8D,G3,AP,4K,S_V4)
Engine: 406 Hyd Roller 236/242
Transmission: 700R4 HomeBrew, 2.4K stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 Posi, 7.5 Soon to break
What were they thinking ??
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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I tried to mount it the way pictured but when you actually have the intake on, the distributor has to be squeezed in there with the return line arranged like that. I didn't want to take the chance of having a fuel line touching the distributor so I just arranged it the way Holley said via their instructions.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by RSblkcam
I tried to mount it the way pictured but when you actually have the intake on, the distributor has to be squeezed in there with the return line arranged like that. I didn't want to take the chance of having a fuel line touching the distributor so I just arranged it the way Holley said via their instructions.
I dont have the HSR, I have the singleplane commander type intake, but it uses the same parts.

Anyway, the FPR had to go with the line OUT because it would hit the valve cover..

Its not too bad to adjust with a long flat head..

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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Those holley adj fuel reg. really do suck! Today I was adjusting the pressure back to 42 psi and after all that turning it went back to 35 psi. Thats it for me I getting another brand!
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Transmission: 700R4 HomeBrew, 2.4K stall
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Originally posted by anesthes
Anyway, the FPR had to go with the line OUT because it would hit the valve cover..
Rats!!!
Back to the drawing board.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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Have you tried reversing the fuel rails so that they enter/exit near the throttle body as opposed to the distributor? I read somewhere that somebody did it and it worked out well for them. You can't do that with the Kirban AFPR because it is too bulky, but the Holly AFPR may be small enough to work.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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Just out of curiosity, what is the attraction of an AFPR (instead of nonadjustable)?
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Parrydise7
Just out of curiosity, what is the attraction of an AFPR (instead of nonadjustable)?
You can increase and decrease the fuel pressure to increase or decrease the amount of gas that the injectors fire, which basically allows you to tune your engine richer or leaner depending on what it needs. If you burn your own PROMs, which I think is necessary if you are using the HSR anyway, they aren't really necessary.
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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So once you've got it tuned, you can't fiddle with it anyway, right?
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Old Sep 5, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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you could...but there wouldn't really be a reason to. it takes a long time to get it tuned perfectly anyway, so a little fiddling is almost always necessary.
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