I have been getting a bad wrap over at the www.camaroz28.com
website. I could use a little help with the negative post's.

The zaino zombies are attacking the formula113. They won't let me me defend my self, so to all that now love the 113 and the beadx please help and respond to the bull that is being said.


It will be most appreciated.

Thanks
Michael

 

I'd be happy to, I'll head there right now.

 

Mark to the rescue, thanks buddy!

 

OK, I read one post haven't replied yet, I have to sign up I guess.

But they did bring up a good point, abrasives?? I remember a lot of red being on my cloth in certain spots. So isn't the abrasive part bad to use all the time. Though the shine on mine like 3 weeks later is still awesome, and I haven't used the Bead X. So I don't see myself needing to wax as often as with other waxes.

 

Put some between your fingers, do you feel any abrasives? put some on the threads were the cap goes, do you hear or feel any gritty sounds or feel? If you had zaino around and put some on your car it would turn red also.

No abrasive, chemical cleaning agent. I sell these products to many street rodders some of them have very expensive paint jobs and I am not talking about 5 or 10 thousand dollar paint jobs, some are really high end. There has never been one, NOT ONE complaint. Even the body guys that put these paint jobs on these cars reccomend it and sell it.


Mark, enjoy your shine and don't worry. NOBODY WAXES MORE THEN ME, NOBODY, MY CARS ARE LOOKING LIKE GLASS

 

Awesome thanks for the fast reply. I'll sign up there to help ya out. Wanna send me another bottle. Hehe.

 

if you wanna post the thread url i'd be more than happy to chime in over there.

Eric

 

I think this is it, not sure.
http://web.camaross.com/bb/Forum10/HTML/004106.html

 

Mark i gotta tell ya, i'm not sure you went about this the right way. If i didn't know who you were (as most of them don't) I'd be looking at you like a troll right now, and your statements wouldn't mean very much to me at all.

Now mike, before i go over there and state my opinions of the 113, i'd like to know why you haven't tried to defend yourself first. I saw you emailed someone, but why have you not posted directly in you own defense? Or do you just have a different name over there? Last, what assurance do i have that there indeed aren't any abrasives in your wax? They seem to be making a good case that it does.

Just for the record, i love your stuff, i didn't see any orange on my towels while applying it, and i can't feel any grit when i rub it. However i dont feel any grittiness in my meguires body scrub which clearly states that it has abrasives in it, either.

Eric

 

They won't let me back in, I know I can get in some how,but i want to leave it alone for now. There are no abrasives, it chemical cleaning action. You can wax your car once a day for 20 years and you still won't go through the clear coat.

 

they won't let you back in? meaning they banned you? what for if you don't mind my asking....

Eric

 

Sounds like they did the same thing to you as vette forums Micheal Btw, got my shipment today

 

Hey i just got my formula 113 at the Syracuse national and let me tell ya ive used just about every good wax out there including Zainos and i have to say 113 is better.not that Zainos is bad stuff i just think 113 is better............

 

And its way more user friendly

 

Michael, I just received my free sample today, im going to be using it on my new 92 Z28 i just got, altho its only 3 weeks new to me, the guy waxed it before i purchased it...

What is the best way to go about using the product? I want to know how YOU do it so i can get the best shine possible, as i would like to continue using it(seeing these guys before and after pictures has me sold already!)

What is the beadx? do i put this on the whole car? or is it like a rainx for just the windshield? if its to keep water off the whole car, can i apply it to the windshield also?

i read the bottle to my mom, but i cant remember, and im at work now, and i got time to kill, so if you read this, ill appreciate a reply...

my mom has a 2001 Grand Am GT...so if she likes the shine, you get 2 for 1!

 

Use Dawn to strip the old wax off the paint. The Bead X is like a polish and is good on glass and chrome too.

 

 

I read some posts from camaroz28.com before and Michael WAS trying to defend his product. I so far like the results of the 113 on both cars I put it on. The Zaino ****'s at camaroz28.com won't allow anybody to enter a plea that something could be better than their beloved Zaino. I got so much flack last year when I complained about the residue around the decals on my 93 Pace car. They said that "anybody that knows anything about waxing/polishing a car, knows that you don't do it over decals." How else do you wax a 93 Pace car???? I don't go to that site much anymore.

Michael, please don't take offense to this, but I think you came on too strong in the early days and you let your temper take over. I think it turned them off, so I heard! I have been telling others about 113 and I really like it. I will be buying more. Anybody want to buy some unused Zaino?!!! I like Meguire's better than Zaino!

 

Michael Prisco- I see they are saying it can't possibly REMOVE swirl marks if its not abrasive. Mine were removed well, but I thought it said somewhere that the stuff actually fills in the swirls and dries clear to make them pretty much disappear. Is that correct?

 

Thiers a reason why I have been a member or cz28 since 99, and ive posted all of 300 times to it...because of ******** zealots who think their king, and thier word is the word of ***. I personaly used to use zaino (for about 3 days). I bought the whole setup, spent 3 days waxing it and quite frankly, it was a waste of 3 days IMO. I found the formula 113 works 10x better then the zaino (although zaino MIGHT last longer, in no small part due to the fact you put 3 different products on multiple times). Also, thier claim about it removing paint, and it showing in your applicator..thats bs as well. Zaino does it to, Hell, I f113 'd this nasty old toyota corolla at work. Its trashed, didnt see a speck of black (the cars color) in the applicator, and i made 3 sales of the stuff to boot!! Hell, I put the crap on my tool box, youd be surpirsed at the difference in the way it looks/feels. Either way, cz28.com isnt at the top of my favorites list, and Im quite glad i have iroczone and here to spend my time at. Who needs that misinformation/zealot mill anyways.