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Old May 1, 2003 | 05:05 PM
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Laq or Clear Coat...Which you like best?

Which one would u do over sparkle midnight blue?
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Old May 1, 2003 | 07:34 PM
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sparkle midnight blue? if youre talking about some kind of metallic, the paint system is usually basecoat/clearcoat. im not sure on what the paint is made from, but usually nowadays i think its acrylic and urethane type things...
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Old May 1, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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the best is basecoat/clearcoat of course... but if it is a solid color you can go with urethane, really it gives almost as good a finish as bc/cc for much cheaper... enamel is really the low quality, cheapest way to go... so really it depends on your tastes, budget and how good you want your car to look
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Old May 2, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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lacquer is very brittle and SUCKS on a daily driver. It's also illegal to buy in some of the tree hugging states (Massachusetts comes to mind). Urethane shines as good as lacquer and is extremely durable. Lacquer is almost completely obsolete.
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Old May 2, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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basecoat/clearcoat is the way to go if you ask me, and yeah the single stages such as PPG's OMNI and ICI ValuPro do look good if it is a solid color like black...my polytech teacher painted his car with that and it looks good.
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Old May 2, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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yes, if you're going with a metallic color, i wouldn't go with single-stage. if you have to wetsand, it won't look right after. i'm dealing with that issue right now on my car......wishing i would've gone with base/clear.
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Old May 2, 2003 | 12:13 PM
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yes, if you're going with a metallic color, i wouldn't go with single-stage. if you have to wetsand, it won't look right after. i'm dealing with that issue right now on my car......wishing i would've gone with base/clear.
Why not clear over the single stage urethane? Thats how most showcar finishes are done today. They paint the car with single stage (sloid colors usually), colorsand, then clear and sand/buff. It gives a very durable finish with the gloss and depth of lacquer. Tahts what I'm doing on my 85 TA (black).
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Old May 2, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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Doing it that way, you might run into bonding issues. It may look good for a while, week, month, years, but in time the clear may start to peel in sheets or haze. It's mostly compatability issues. Thats why paints are disgned the way they are as far as 1, 2 and 3 stage paints.

Of the 2 painters I know, they will use a bc/cc urethane paint like Deltron, Rubber Seal or HoK, always. And they do tons of show cars that are flawless.

But the type of paint makes no difference if the body prep isn't done right. Thats one place you never want to skimp. It's almost more important than the paint itself.
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Old May 2, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by LT1guy
Why not clear over the single stage urethane? Thats how most showcar finishes are done today. They paint the car with single stage (sloid colors usually), colorsand, then clear and sand/buff. It gives a very durable finish with the gloss and depth of lacquer. Tahts what I'm doing on my 85 TA (black).
What's the benefit of doing that over doing a regular 2 stage paint job and cololr sanding before you clear? I think I'd rather stick to the base/clear system and just color sand before applying the clear.
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