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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 01:35 AM
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Thoughts on SS decals.......

So i'm wondering what you guys think about the "SS" decals available for the camaro??

What about someone like me who has gotten rid of all signs that indicate weather it's a Z28 or RS......(minus the engine, but let's not get into that, just exterior looks)

Or should no "SS" emblems be for thirdgens since there was never one made??

Just wondering what everyone's opinion is on this??......
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 01:56 AM
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I say that is a "no-no".
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 02:09 AM
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i think it all depends on how you do it....I've got some WS6 badges going on my bird, (not a ws6) and they're from a new T/A, the idea is to make the car look as if they were made to come on the vehicle, and not just someone who stuck a sticker on it....i've got a buddy who took the symbol from a SS monte carlo (2000 or so) and put it on his 97 monte carlo which only came in LS or Z34, stood out like a sore thumb. Then, i've got a friend who put made SS emblems for his 2003 Impala from two LS emblems, (took off one of the L's and after putting the S's together, made SS...looks like it came from the factory like that) and to add flavor he also added a supercharged emblem from another GM vehicle to the trunklid....so, i'd say, do what ya like just don't put a big sticker on ur car where people would laugh at ya.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 03:51 AM
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Hmm... I'd say no labels unless you can back it up.

If you put a WS6 or Hurst emblem on your car, you better have a Hurst shifter, or have put in at least a single component of the WS6 suspension.

And if you have SS. You better not be sporting a stock 305.

Chevy has already killed the SS by making the Silverado AWD, and the new Impala a v6.

Flynow, I have always liked your car, but show before go can get ridiculous. Besides, it would really ruin the shaved look of your car.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 04:13 AM
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Why not be more creative and come up with your own logo/badge? Since they never made an "SS" 3rd gen, putting those badges on would be like putting a 'Type R' badge on an 80's honda...IMO.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 10:23 AM
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Hmm... I'd say no labels unless you can back it up.

If you put a WS6 or Hurst emblem on your car, you better have a Hurst shifter, or have put in at least a single component of the WS6 suspension.

And if you have SS. You better not be sporting a stock 305.

Chevy has already killed the SS by making the Silverado AWD, and the new Impala a v6.

Flynow, I have always liked your car, but show before go can get ridiculous. Besides, it would really ruin the shaved look of your car.
you know, as much as I like GM, they're going in the $hiter.

However, I do like the Silverado SS
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 10:30 AM
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I dont think it'd be too bad on your car, since you do have the SS style hood. It's closer to being a real SS than GM ever made, that's for sure.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 11:45 AM
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I agree that you need to back it up with something other than looks. On your car, I'd shave all the emblems to keep them guessing- and hope no one wants to race to find out what you have.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by Midnight Sun
... and the new Impala a v6.
The new Impala SS is supercharged and has a better power/weight ratio than the 96s. So its not like they threw junk in there.

I dont think throwing SS badges on a thirdgen is like throwing type r on an 80s civic. But I do think that you should have to be able to back it up.

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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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the only cars that i feel like the SS badge belongs on are the ones with monster big blocks swapped in...........

or some SERIOUSLY modded smallblocks... and im not talking 13sec cars either..
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 03:44 PM
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i say go for it. You already have the ss hood and you could call your car a rs/ss.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 03:50 PM
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Here is my philosophy; The third generation Camaro was never graced with a Super Sport model. However in 1985 Chevrolet presented the IROC package for the Z28. The IROC was the top model (Z28) and then some, much like an SS traditionaly was based on a top model and pushed a little farther. And of course the IROC package was changed to a model in the last couple years of production. Therefore technically speaking, pre 1LE IROCs could be dubbed the SS of the generation. It's hard to say the 1LE is "more" SS than the IROC, because it never had badges, or advertised as a commonly available package. Anyway, just my $0.02 on the matter, it makes sense to me. Not to blow too much cover, but the "unveiling" commencing soon will shed some light on the subject if you know what I mean...

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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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That is incorrect. SS's were just straightline, heavy, big block cars. Z28's were like 1LE's and came with a high HP engine that was know to outrun big blocks at high RPM, weight reduction, better suspension than the SS, bigger brakes standard, bigger rims/tires, a higher price tag, and it's own unique and aggressive looks. It was basically a racecar you could drive home since it was made to compete in SCCA Trans Am races, which it dominated. Then Z28 kept serving as the top all-out Camaro for years and years after the SS was dropped. The way the 4th Gen SS was presented was not historically correct to the Camaro or the name. At least it was recognized that the IROC-Z was a Z28, but upgraded. The newer SS's just pushed them aside.

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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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Originally posted by IROCZTWENTYGR8
That is incorrect. SS's were just straightline, heavy, big block cars. Z28's were like 1LE's and came with a high HP engine that was know to outrun big blocks at high RPM, weight reduction, better suspension than the SS, bigger brakes standard, bigger rims/tires, a higher price tag, and it's own unique and aggressive looks. It was basically a racecar you could drive home since it was made to compete in SCCA Trans Am races, which it dominated. Then Z28 kept serving as the top Camaro for years and years after the SS was dropped. The way the 4th Gen SS was presented was not historically correct to the Camaro or the name. At least it was recognized that the IROC-Z was a Z28 but upgraded. The newer SS's just pushed them aside.
The SS's of yore we're big-blocked beasts of speed, yes. The current SS's may not subscribe to that school, but they are SS's all the same. The fact is that SS is what GM says SS is. They could say that SS is now just a base model for all cars, then the SS would be the base for all cars, whether you like it or not. Currently the SS is an option that ups the ante of performance on select models. You don't see big-blocks in cars anymore do you? Because the current small blocks have the power to run with the older big-blocks, and get better milage.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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I'd definitely say don't do it...firstly, as others have stated, there was never an SS tird gen. Secondly, though some of the stuff you've done to your car is pretty cool (not all though ), it is far from being an SS - a moniker which has always stood for pure performance. Your car is, ah, decidedly far from that realm .

Personally, I feel it'd be as bad as mis-placed Type-R/V-TEC badges...it would be trying to pass your car off as something it certainly isn't. Just my 3275989 cents ...
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 07:12 PM
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It's not trying to pass your car off as something it isn't. There never was an ss third gen so it's not like he's trying to say he is a z28 or iroc or something. Everyone who sees it will know it's fake so what's wrong with it? Putting a type r sticker on a honda dx is completely different because there actually were type r hondas.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 07:22 PM
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i was reading the new Impala's or the SS's are gettin the 3.5l motor from honda. im just upset with GM for doing that, i think the new impala can burn in hell with that honda motor in it.

anyway, just put the SS emblems on ur car if u feel like it. if u think it will make it look better and be an eye catcher it will be good, enless its a race then u might be screwed. but other then that do what makes u happy. ive seen other guys on this board have the SS badges and if u take a qwick look it looks like the RS badge but if u look close it has SS, i say do it and have the SS part in chrome lettering.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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Originally posted by 25THRSS
It's not trying to pass your car off as something it isn't. There never was an ss third gen so it's not like he's trying to say he is a z28 or iroc or something. Everyone who sees it will know it's fake so what's wrong with it? Putting a type r sticker on a honda dx is completely different because there actually were type r hondas.
I disagree. Though there is no such thing as an SS third gen, there are many SS Camaros - and FlynLow's isn't one of them.
If we were to go back to the Type-R argument, wouldn't it still be as bad if the sticker was on the wrong generation car? The generation difference argument doesn't make any sense to me. The whole idea of the Type-R sticker would be to make a slow car seem fast, right? Same thing with the SS badge - applying a name that has always meant "performance" to a car that really doesn't represent that. Now, if the car did have some heavy mods done to it, I'd have a slightly different opinion...

Besides, what's the point of putting it on if everyone will know it's fake ?
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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The point is if you like it then do it. I personally wouldn't do it, but if he wants to I say go for it. He already has the ss hood so it would be kind of cool in my opinion. It's like his own version of what a third gen ss never was, appearance wise and flynlow is all show no go. Kinda fits his car, not disrespect meant. Besides IMO, the Z28 has and will always be the top camaro. SS was second.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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I had a 1964 Impala SS back in high school and it only had a 283 2 bbl and 2 speed Powerglide.

SS in Camaros has always meant pretty much the speediest in the 1320, but otherwise it meant little beyond a trim package
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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The Z28 has always meant pure performance from day 1! Know where the name Z28 came from? It was the rpo code for the engine which became so popular gm decided to market it. The first gen Z28's came with functional cowl hoods where as the ss had the fake vents. The ss was heavier than the Z28, the Z28 outhandled the ss, the Z28 was built purely for racing. Like you said ss had basically meant a trim package and that is especially true today. Z28 is the *** of camaros, yes even over the all might ss. The only SS I would consider top dog is the chevelle.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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If you do it ...go for it, be prepared to be FU%#ED with....your car needs to back it up.


The biggest engine the Z-28 came with was the 350. You had to order the SS to get the Big Block...so what car would you take, better suspension Z28 or bigger HP big block.

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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by 25THRSS
The Z28 has always meant pure performance from day 1! Know where the name Z28 came from? It was the rpo code for the engine which became so popular gm decided to market it. The first gen Z28's came with functional cowl hoods where as the ss had the fake vents. The ss was heavier than the Z28, the Z28 outhandled the ss, the Z28 was built purely for racing. Like you said ss had basically meant a trim package and that is especially true today. Z28 is the *** of camaros, yes even over the all might ss. The only SS I would consider top dog is the chevelle.
You got it and know your Camaros once again 25th.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 11:56 PM
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Well first to put some of you at ease, I don't plan on putting on the SS badges on my car anytime soon, I 100% agree with the fact if you decide to, you should be able to back it up, and frankly i don't think my 305 TBI is up for the challenge.....

Just doing some thinking for the future when the engine swap will happen........then maybe some badges later, but engine swap first....

As mentioned earlier, i'm trying to build what the thirdgen SS should have looked like IMO.......just don't know yet if i should go all the way and get the badges, or stop short......

MetalliCamaroRS, I like the way the badges accent the exterior, and with the door handles, molding and misc other crap shaved, I think if i shaved the emblems too, it would look too plain......
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 03:44 PM
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If you want to see some SS badges in action, check here.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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i would agree that putting ss badges on any thrid gen is wrong, unless u had all the goodies to go with the ss badges just like a 4th gen would have before they get the badges, it would be like putting iroc decals on the door of a 2.8 camaro. just not right imfo
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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the only situation in which I think it would be ok to do such a thing is if you were to do an engine/transmission/all performance parts of the time conversion. This means if you have a 350 TPI - I don't agree with putting SS badges on it....even if it's making 800 hp. You have to transplant and make the car a combination of 2 cars....the outside badges sybolize the innards of the car. This only applies to the performance oriented SS though. If you took GTA badges and put it on a maxed out RamAir TA....that's just wrong. GTA was a luxery package and cannot in any way be duplicated.

So in essence...this is all about putting Type R badges on a Honda of years that the badge never appeared and that no original Type R equipment exist on the fraudulent car.

I say take an LS1 and a 6 speed...convert to LS1 brakes and maybe even SS wheels...then slap your badge on. It's no longer 3rd gen...it's a body housing the SS package.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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What if the car looks like this and has the mods listed in the sig:

Tasteful?
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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There was a guy on here that just did em from the ss silverado emblems and i think they look awesome on the car. My opinion is if you've done all this work to a car you want something a little different. Thats how i worked in the firebirdgt emblems on mine i figure its a y99 suspension car and its got a crapload of custom mods and alot of stuff that i made or changed to be different i kinda wanted to go with the new school technology old school style where fast was cool and it was all about the camaro and firebird. Flynlow92rs i personally think you have a car that definately deserves ss badges but i do kinda like the clean look.

I had these made up to replace the stock firebird chrome raised emblem i wanted to have a real smooth look down the side ie no trim so i went with this they actually get alot of attention at shows and coloradof-body get togethers because no one knows what that was or that there was a gt package. I figure it was my way of showing off my work and $$$ spent by making it "one" of a kind. Not to mention they look bitchinly sweet just my 2 pennies
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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Scott C-2: I've always liked your car, and I think it's one of the more tasteful cars here.......that being said:

There was never a thirdgen SS. No motor makes it an SS. A 427 is no more an SS than a 305. Stripped down, repainted, chopped up, pro streeted, pro touring, jet funny car, lowriders. STILL no SS. If ya wanna do it, fine, it's your car.

This topic comes up over and over, and people always come up with criteria that will somehow magically change there car into an SS. I don't understand how hard it is to comprehend. If GM never made it, then how do you guys think you can just .....walla!!! Make an SS.

I don't mine Scott C-2 and the other who have done it. They didn't need approval, they just wanted it, and did it. That's cool in my book. It's this debate over whether or not you can change it into something it's not. Why not a ZL-1? Heck, why not call it a Corvette? Why stop there, how bout a Ferrari? OK, well not a Ferrari. But what if you could back it up Then would it be a Ferrari?

OK, here's an acceptable answer: " I Know there's no SS, but I've always loved that moniker, and wanted to make one"

Unacceptable: " Hey guys, my car has 400 HP, does it make it OK to put SS badges on? As long as you guys still think I'm cool, I'm gonna do it"

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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 10:44 PM
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I was thinking what about the 83-88 monte carlo SS's they looked awesome but with only a 305 they werent an 8 second street car but those got them like some one said before ss is what chevy says it is.

I personally have to agree with my dad when it comes down to something with good power if the manafacturer wants it to stick out it will with bullit, Z28, SS,Gt emblems but yet we have a 98 buick riviera supercharged. 265 hp stock with my dads cool ways its working on 450 hp right now at the wheels and yet has a small riviera badege on each side and the R logo on the back with a small supercharged emblem. No one ever knows what the hell the car is but want to know what it is after it with a white haired guy full leater interior with the a/c on blows their *** out of the water. That my friends is a sleeper. Thats my dads opinion i think a real small emblem or decal placed in a close to stock location is alright but people are going to know it could have a littel more than it shoudl especially if its like a ss badge on a thirdgen. I personally liek it if i had a camaro as mean as my bird i would but firebird ss just doesnt sound right
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 10:52 PM
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I guess my point was that if you want it, then do it. Have the sack to stand up to me and the other naysayers and just do it, it's your car afterall. I repect that kind of opinion.What I hate is everyone who try to convince me that it's somehow magically transformed into the missing SS that never was because you can "back it up" with performance.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 10:54 PM
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Irocbuilder...those SC Regals are pretty cool. My buddy had one.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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I fully agree with Abubaca...It's your car. Do what you want to it. Just be prepared to get flamed because it rubs someone else the wrong way. It does help to have a little something to back it up to offset the flame factor, however. I won't be able to hear people bitchin' anyway, as I zoom past at full throttle!

I personally did mine up like you see it simply beacuse I've always liked the look of the '70-'73 SS Camaro. The split bumper SS specifically - NOT the newer ones.

I sort of built my car as a '90s Camaro on a '70s SS theme, that's it. Not trying to impress anyone except myself. I haven't had a negative comment from anyone who's seen the car in person, and I still get wood every time I step into the garage and look at the car as it sits there looking so swell. Works for me! :lala:
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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Say I stick SS badges on my car and then say it stands for the Superramed Stroker that resides under the hood .

The topics are a never ending debate. Its all personal opinion. There is no wrong or right.
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 11:52 AM
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I dont get why everone is **** with SS name . It was mostly just a trim package that could be had on nearly every chevy back in the day . SS has been painfully slow cars as well as quite fast ones throughout its entire existence . Even up to the 4th Gen SS , it was nothing more than a OVERPRICED TRIM PACKAGE , cuz if ya paid attention at all , if the car didnt have any SLP options like the cold air and the exhaust , the lowly ol Z28's were as fast or faster and produced the same rwhp figures as a SS .
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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Originally posted by irocbirdbuilder
...There was a guy on here that just did em from the ss silverado emblems...
Would that be me?


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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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Nice rims :hail:
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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looks great roc
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Old Aug 13, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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All "SS" opinions aside, that's a nice car.

I like the door molding delete.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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I'm split on this. I'd say no if it's just a SS sticker job. But if you build something special, like a personal answer to the 92 Firehawk or the 92 Heritage Edition super cars, then you could put SS on the car and hold your head high.

We should be thankful that Chevy didn't build a half-assed 3rd gen SS.
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 05:53 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by tpiroc
[B]Would that be me?

That would be you i couldnt find your post to get your sn. Personally that car looks like the ss should have come factory and plus the decals arent overdone they look like thats where they would be if there was an ss thirdgen. Gorgeous car keep up the work bro!
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Old Aug 14, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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whats wrong with RS, Z28 and IROC-Z badges. i dont get whats so good about the SS, its a differnt generation camaro. the SS being the top of the line camaro in everything for the 96 and newer ones. but the "ss" of thirdgens is the IROC-Z and Z28s of 91-92. so why would u want to use 4th gen badgin when u can use the right style thirdgen stuff to get the same message across. another thing is, with iroc-z, z28, ss badges, people expect to be imperssed. but they dotn expect an RS to fly, id leave the RS badges on it, theres nuthin wrong with that pacakge.
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by SLP IROC-Z
another thing is, with iroc-z, z28, ss badges, people expect to be imperssed. but they dotn expect an RS to fly, id leave the RS badges on it,
That was my exact thinking, i would like to be the underdog, better then "expecting" to be fast with an SS

The problem is that my car "looks fast" right now, so people are expecting me to be fast, most people are surprised to find out when i have a 305 TBI....

That was the reason holding me back from getting the SS emblems before......but now that my car looks and sounds fast, i'm re-evaluating the situation....
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Old Aug 15, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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Just go for it dude, your car would wear them well. It's already projecting the "Look out I look fast parked" image. I hear the 03 Silverado SS emblems work well
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