Lately there have been a couple threads about shaving the turn signals but i had a radical idea...DONT shave them. I havent checked my car yet to see what sort of clearance issues youd run into but has anyone ever thought of removing the turn signals, covering the hole with a a fairly fine mesh.....and then running ducting up to the front brakes? This is just one of a few different air cooled brakes ideas im toying with right now...lets get your feedback.

 

sounds like a pretty good idea, if u do it right anyways,

 

well ive decided im definitly doing it from the turn signal position i just went and checked and it looks like i should have more then enough space........ill post pics when i do....

 

where would you put the turn signals if you duct the current positioned ones.

 

Well as i see it i have two options. First one being okay im removing the whole fog light housing and turning into a massive ram air and covering the hole with mesh...i could stick two yellow lights one on each side of that central opening about 2 inches thick behind the mesh and that would probably work. The second option is not having any turn signals??? I was looking at my highway traffic and safety act or whatever on the net and at no point does it seem to mandate turn signals anywhere on the car let alone mentioning specifically ones on the front. Thinking it might actually be legal to remove my front turn signals completly??? Ill probably end up doing the signals behind the mesh one on either side because id kind of like to have the turn signals just so people dont try to crash their car into my car.

 

I think you might be right as far as not legally needing turn signals. I've heard a number of times they arent actually needed to be street legal. Though if you go in for smog tests you might be hassled. Come to think of it you may be hassled anyway cuase i've been pulled over for not using my signals. Though hand signals may work instead. (honestly, i think hand signals are the legal alternative to no turn signals)

The ram air and brake thing is a cool idea. I was thinking of trying a ram-air thing in place of my fog lights('85 TA) but i think if it could even be done that all the bends and such would negate the effect. Damn I wish those hood vents could be used!

Matt

 

Well the biggest problem youd have with routing from the fog lights is theres so damn much stuff in the way youd have to be prepared to do a good bit of cutting....but i dont think the amount of bends is a big deal because as long as youre still moving forwards the air has to get pushed through and while the less tubing the better it shouldnt make a big difference.

As far as the turn signal thing yeah hand signals are the alternative but what if it is too freaking cold to have the windows down??? I dont drive my car during the winter but during the later months of the fall it gets freaking cold and my windows sure as heck arent down. I think ill probably rig up some trick headlights on each end of the fog light space because im gutting all of that anyways and its just a bit less of a hassle.

 

just turn your foglights into blinkers. you can even get a double filiment bulb so that they are on "low" when you have the lights on, just like the normal blinkers. Not to hard. and it looks factory!

 

LoL yeah that would work but if you pick through carefully at some point i mentioned that im removing the whole fog light houseing and putting in a big ram air setup.

 

oh, sorry I didnt' see that.

hm... I guess you could make your own blinkers somewhere on the nose, or turn your high beams in to blinkers.

 

how about removing the turn lamps, and mount 2 LED wedge bulbs behind the screen you are using . that way you still have park lamps and turn lamps. you will need to do some creative rewireing for the led's but it will be trick. im thinking of doing that same thing to my car. im in the process of trying to fabricate a mount for the bulbs

 

Trying to get a mental image of this thread!

Okay, take out the side turn signals for front brake cooling? What do you do that requires that much cooling? down hill driving? mountain racing? heavy drifting?

I would rather use the turn signal areas for a mini-ram air. Just build a little "scoop" for the sig area. You could even make it auto-deploying, sort of like a ram-air usage? Flush mounted cover with about a 1/4 inch lip all around. Then when you want more air deploy the scoops. Could even use the induction switch and solenoid from the 5.0 hood? Now you would need to route the air to the carb......

In removing the front turn signals, you could place them in the front nose vents on the hood. I was sort of toying with this idea for the last few years, but I would like to either make them a functional ram-air setup or with a similar set up for the side turn signals or just place some yellow neon in there along with the side vents behind the wheel wells.

Thoughts?

 

I know for Illinois, if you do something custom with the lights like this you have a few stipulations to work with. I'm not sure about other states though. First, the bulb itself must be visible. So you can't tuck the bulb out of sight and just have the glow be visible. Second, it is supposed to be an amber bulb, but alot of people around here get away with white. Third, you cannot have flashing emergency colors. IE, No red or blue.

I think that if you didn't have front indicators and you didn't use hand signals, you'd be getting improper lane change tickets left and right. Sorry, couldn't resist

Matt

 

Har Har! that was a knee slapper

I know here in Phoenix Arizona, the lamps are supposed to be amber, but I looked and looked for an amber foglight bulb, but couldn't find any. I suppose I could frankenstein up a bulb socket for an amber bulb, but I have seen imports all the time with white blinkers, so I didn't bother with it. I'm sure any cop with no experience dealing with 3rd gen camaro's wouldn't even know the blinkers had been messed with, looks factory. (which is what I wanted!)

 

LoL ill absolutly admit i have no good reason for doing this. I just had a little accident and i have to replace the front bumper cover (nose body panel) and as soon as i took it off i went hey there is a direct path from my turn signals to the front wheels and how trick would it be to be able to say i have air cooled front brakes? Not to mention it will help with the customized look im going for NOT TO MENTION I do plan on doing a bunch of auto x next summer so i dont see how it could hurt.

As far as rather turning it into ram air im cutting out the section of the nose thats inbetween the two fog lights, gutting out the fog lights (already done i smashed one to hell when i got in the accident anyways...) and turning the whole thing into a giant ram air scoop.

like i said before id kind of like to put some turn signals in just so stupid people dont hit my car. Ive pretty much narrowed it down to either buying two thin (like 2") turn signals and putting one on either side of the fog light housing since im going to have a massive scoop im going to have now in my nose it wont look bad at all....the only problem is the current headlights are right at the front and angled out a bit where that idea would have them kind of tucked in and would only be visible from directly ahead. The other option is to put like a 1" thick LED turn signal where the current one is and just sacrifice that little bit of air flow. Currently im liking the first idea better but as always opinions are appreciated.

 

thats what got me to work on my nose, I rear ended someone and didn't want to pay anyone to fix the damage to my car I learned a lot in the process, and came out with a pretty unique front end!

BTW, I got the hood and fenders to all line up now, and popped in some headlight "adjuster thingies" to keep the headlights fomr sagging down. it all looks pretty good now!

 

im assuming you had to get a new nose and if so where did you get it from? I'm thinking since its plastic it shouldnt be hard to get one in good shape from a junk yard and just get it painted.

Also other then shaving the blinkers is there anything else that youve done?

 

I used my same nose, just "welded" up the cracks with urethane repair material and plastic weld.

I also filled in the nose emblem, and had a friend weld up my antenna hole. I also filled in any deap scratches and chips on the lower front GFX.

I'm still debating wether or not to fill in the side Z28 logo holes or not.

 

i debated doing that but decided that every time i looked at my car itd make me sad that i didnt go all out fixing it (i still feel guilty about what i did to her ). Your front end looks nice cant wait to see it painted.....I cant wait till i can afford my new nose so i can get it all cut and painted theres going to be some fabbing that i need to do....

 

I don't think you'd get any reasonable amount of airflow from using the turn signals...

I'd be more inclined to do something from underneath...

 

what are you talking about? Do you know how big those turn signals are. To try to create a scoop that was bigger then that underneath would be crazy! Go outside and take a look at your car the hole is pretty damn big.

Oh well your entitled to your opinion.....now i guess its my job to go and prove you wrong.....

 

heh, they are pretty dang big, about 8.5" x 3".

 

Oops, I thought you meant the ones on the sides of the fenders....

 

lol nah im tearing the big ones up front out

 

Revlimit did that 2 years ago I think. Not a bad idea.