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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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LED Turn Signal Bulbs?

I went to autozone today....looked through some of their bulbs...and they have LED parking lamp/turn signal bulbs (like 10 LED's per bulb).....they were $17 bucks for 2 bulbs...pretty pricey. I was just wondering if anyone has installed a set in there turn signals.....I'd like to get my parking lamps/turn signals a bit brighter...and thought this would be an easy way of doing it.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 12:21 PM
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i saw those as well last week. A little to pricey for me, il stick wit 5 bucks for 2 bulbs
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 01:01 PM
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i saw those as well last week. A little to pricey for me, il stick wit 5 bucks for 2 bulbs
I spent $40 bucks on my foglight bulbs...might as well spend $17 bucks for my parking lamp bulbs..haha...when is it going to stop!!
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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I have LED's installed in my front turn signals, front side markers, fog lights, both headlights, rear triangular side markers, brakes lights, rear turn signals, back up lights, and license plate lights.

Since you know the "white" LED's have almost a purple or blue tint depending on brand, it's very important to match the color of LED to the enclosure. White LED's in the brake lights looked like ***, but red ones look much better. Similarly for the turn signals, white LED's made them look dull and green, therefore an amber LED set is required to make them look decent/bright. White LED's were used for the license plate, back up lights, side markers (clear), and front turn signals (clear). I'll grab a pic in a sec of my front turn signals.

EDIT: Here are some pictures;

Front angle shot;


Front close up;


Side Marker close up;


Aux LED in foglight;


LED in headlights;


I think I'll be changing the front to a rich amber like on the new Vettes, a little less "r!cey"....

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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 02:23 PM
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I have LED's installed in my front turn signals, front side markers, fog lights, both headlights, rear triangular side markers, brakes lights, rear turn signals, back up lights, and license plate lights.

Since you know the "white" LED's have almost a purple or blue tint depending on brand, it's very important to match the color of LED to the enclosure. White LED's in the brake lights looked like ***, but red ones look much better. Similarly for the turn signals, white LED's made them look dull and green, therefore an amber LED set is required to make them look decent/bright. White LED's were used for the license plate, back up lights, side markers (clear), and front turn signals (clear). I'll grab a pic in a sec of my front turn signals.

I think I'll be changing the front to a rich amber like on the new Vettes, a little less "r!cey"....
man....that's some killer lighting!....looks like a train!..I agree that the turn signal/parking lamps owuld look much better having a bright, intense, amber.....that's exaclty what I'm looking for. Are you going to buy LED bulbs for the parking lights/turn signals? The LED sytle bulb would have to look really intense....like it is in my dash....
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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how about the LED bulbs on this site? [url]
http://www.autolumination.com/

this site has TONs!.....which set should I get? 1157 "24 LED" type or the "eagle eye" 1157 type? What did you go with TPIROC? I want my parking lamps to look like the 4th gens and the vette's...

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I just got some 194 replacement bulbs from SuperBrightLEDs and replaced the blinkers inside with green ones like stock.. and the dummy lights with red ones to match. I got the 6 LED per bulb ones and they are VERY bright. Love it.

Question about the exterior lights though.. are the lenses evenly filled up with the light? Or is it a super bright dot where the LEDs are and some light around it? Can't tell that well with the pictures b/c you can't tell how much light the camera is actually picking up. I mean.. I took some pictures of my car when it was almost dark with the 'Night' setting and my amber parking lights looked killer, but they look like crap in real life... which is why I was wanting brighter ones. But.. yea.. how evenly does the LED 1157 "bulb" fill up the light?

Also found some that had LEDs facing forward and some of them facing 90* to the other ones. Seems like those would be the ones to get for the tail lights if the others are just a bright dot with some light around it. Little on the .... expensive side though. https://www.netdisty.net/ds/aut1157/default.asp Haven't read about it much just thought it was a good idea to have LEDs that were sideways.


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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by 84customZ28
how about the LED bulbs on this site?
http://www.autolumination.com/
Sweet, that's the site I bought all of mine at. I don't remember which ones I got though, their site was as well laid out (still ugly though) at the time. I did get inverted 194 LED's so it wouldn't make a "hot spot" in the lens. I think the eagle eye or 24 LED bad mo' would be perfect for the front since it blasts out the widest. My only concern is that they will be like pee yellow, I do want to order from these guys, but want a RICH AMBER and not a sick wee wee color. I will be replacing my turn signals in back and will try a set, if they are pee pee it will be in an amber enclosure so it won't be too bad I don't think. If they look good, I'll get them for the front, too. However I won't be obtaining them for a while, kind of a low priority on a parked car if you know what I mean
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by 84customZ28
Are you going to buy LED bulbs for the parking lights/turn signals?
Those are LED's, white ones.
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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i need 1157's for my parking/turn signals though right?
is there a big difference between the "eagle eyes" and the "24 LED" bulbs? It says that the "Eagle Eyes are the most powerful forward facing LEDS"...I'm about to order...and if anyone knows...that would be a plus..

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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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do these bulbs have the same resistance as a refular filament bulb? I was wondering because if the resistance in the circuit changes it will change the speed at which the lights flash. I need to put brighter bulbs in my car because with my blackouts on my tals look dim and I would like to brighten it up back there
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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anyone got a pic of how the brake light LED's look in the light and dark?
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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Is there a big difference between the ones that are $7 and $64... I imagine theres some but I cant imagine a $57 difference in illumination quality...
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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well...I installed my LED bulbs in my turn/parking lights...(1157's) and now, they will not blink....they just stay on. Does anyone know why???????
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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Stupid idea.. but .... you turned all the way them after plugging them in right? I replaced the bulbs in my parking lights and the blinkers weren't working... the lights turned on but didnt blink. Arrows inside didnt blink either.... turning the bulbs was a stupid mistake on my part... just making sure you didnt do that same


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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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thats what I was afraid of the resistance in the bulbs is different than the stock ones. That causes te flasher to have a different amperage and not blink so either you replace the flasher with the right one, dont know which one though or put resistors inline with the bulb wiring to get the resistance back to what it needs to be.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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I just found out that I need an "equalizer" for them to work properly...they are 7 bucks each...I just bought them.....when I get them..I'll try'em out again....more and more money..
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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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Just for anyone who might want to know, here's a quote from a PM I sent 84customZ28;

My 1157 LED replacements have diodes built in so the flasher doesn't get confused. You have a couple options, you can load the circuit with a diode, or get an electronic 552 flasher module that's for "variable loads". You may find them as "Heavy Duty and Towing" untis that will accomodate various loads including the very little load of an LED.
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by 84customZ28
I just found out that I need an "equalizer" for them to work properly...they are 7 bucks each...I just bought them.....when I get them..I'll try'em out again....more and more money..
How about using an electronic flasher relay instead?
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Old Apr 4, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by Petes 84Z28
How about using an electronic flasher relay instead?
See post above yours.
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what were the specs of the led's you used?
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by 19doug90
what were the specs of the led's you used?
They changed the site I got them at around so I'm not certain which ones I got. But all you need to look for is a set/pair/whatever with a built in diode.
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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I bought the 194's at Allied Auto Parts for the turn signals.

They didn't light up the whole light area and the bulbs were 1/4 inch taller than the stock ones. Couldn't secure the back of the bulb socket because the LED's hit the top of the light cover and would not "give" enough to secure the socket to the light housing.

I took 'em back.

I like the full illumination of the regular yellow 194's in the turn signals.

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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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They changed the site I got them at around so I'm not certain which ones I got. But all you need to look for is a set/pair/whatever with a built in diode.
what the heck is a built in diode?
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Old Apr 7, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by 19doug90
what the heck is a built in diode?
A built in diode simulates the electrical load equivalent of a filament style bulb required for the 552 flasher module to operate properly. The LED replacement has such little draw of power that the 552 module thinks that the bulb it burnt out, meaning the circuit is NOT completed and the 552 will not flash. The diode completes the circuit by merely drawing power so the 552 can live happily ever after, and perhaps one day grow up, have a family, and flash till it can't flash any longer. The death of the 552 will be sad, but his life will have been spent flashing, not just sitting doing nothing as he JUST MIGHT BE if you don't load the circuit with either an "equilizer" - fancy name for an overpriced diode, diode enhanced LED replacements, or for crying out loud just sticking with filament style bulbs.

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hmm well heres my issue, i just bought some normal LED's off e-bay and they dont have a built in diode. Is there any way to wire something up that would achieve the same effect?

EDIT: let me be a little more specific, im actually doing some custom stuff and fabricating my own strip of led's in a custom bracket and was hoping to use the wiring for the stock lights. What can i do if i dont have LED's with a built in diode so i can use the wires.

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I'm just going to install those equalizers and I will be set
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Old Apr 8, 2004 | 09:45 AM
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Originally posted by 19doug90
What can i do if i dont have LED's with a built in diode so i can use the wires.
USE AN ELECTRONIC 552 FLASHER AKA HEAVY DUTY/TOWING/VARIABLE LOAD 552 FLASHER.
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well..I installed the "equalizer" and the LED...but still...no flashing....just stays on. I would be happy to do what TPIROC suggets...but..this LED stuff is getting very old...I'm just going to send everything I ordered back..(even though there is a 20% re-stocking fee) I wish they just made LED turn/parking light bulbs to just plug-n-play.....
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Old Apr 11, 2004 | 10:57 PM
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I don't know what to tell ya man, that sucks. I just bought the friggin' things, and put them in - that's it. All I was sure of was that they had the diode. Otherwise it's really not that difficult to replace a 552. I understand the frustration however.
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