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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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Installed a set of those H4 conversion headlamps.

Looks pretty cool Installed them saturday night and decided to replace the bushings in the headlight motors as well.


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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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I was thinking of doing this to my car as well. Just curious to know if you had do any special wiring for them to go in. Would love to see some pics with them turned on. Where did you get them from?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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they look really good, I recently put a set of silverstars in mine so maybe when they burn out Ill do that to mine.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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how much of an improvement have you noticed?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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What brand of lens did you go with?

I am trying to find the best quality one, that can handle a 100/80 bulb (but I think they all max out at 60).
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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i just got my h4's today and i just installed them looks hot as hell got it for only like 26 bucks off of ebay good deal
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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Not sure of the brand, they have japanese writing all over the box. I paid $40 for the set from a friend who ordered them for his Talon, but they were the wrong size.
They sell them at ProCarParts.com I believe for $23+shipping (they charged $15 for shipping).

The bulbs have the same plug pattern as the stock bulbs so no re-wiring was required. bulbs are either 55 or 60/100.

There is also a second bulb in the housing, a small blue one which I didn't wire up, gives the lens a blue glow when the lights are off.

I need to aim my headlights since they are way off. I'll get some pics of them lit up again, the ones I took were too blurry since I wasn't able to get an angle and hold the camera still, may just use a tripod like I should.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Its all listed here. Im currently doing the harness for my Camaro right now. https://www.thirdgen.org/newdesign/t...tupgrade.shtml
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 12:57 AM
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hey i just noticed this tonight while driving the lights are aimed upwards and not center towrds the road n im sure it was on right could it be put in upside down? i also got the little blue light where do i hook that up to ?
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 01:43 AM
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here is a pic of the lights on,


I was going to wire up those small lights to a small relay and then to a switch.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 03:53 AM
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bright!
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 06:00 AM
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Bright for sure...question is, how far do they throw a beam?

Had the misfortune of driving a friends civic pos with those bright *** lights on there and could hardly see **** in front of me.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 06:34 AM
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Originally posted by TorchTA
Bright for sure...question is, how far do they throw a beam?

Had the misfortune of driving a friends civic pos with those bright *** lights on there and could hardly see **** in front of me.
very true i was drivin with the h4 's last night and i could hardly see a damn thing with the blue blubs connected will there be more visual?
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 01:09 PM
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Bristol, whats the scoop on your harness construction. iv heard for them to actually work correct a upgraded harness is needed as our stock harness dosent provide the correct ampreage .
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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I originally just changed the way the wires sit in the connector housing cause the ground and power are different on the H4 bulbs vs. sealed beam. I then read that the increased load wrecks havoc on the stock switch and also read that adding relays prevent damage to the switch and add up to 15% more power making them brighter. I just put in a harness with new connectors...heavier wire and 2 bosch relays....in my cas its made a noticable differance....especially with the high beams on. Im talking to my buddy who helped me about making a kit with the harness completed with the relays...so itll be a very minmal install effort...and might sell a few on ebay if we can get them assembled for a good price.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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Did that last year when I bought my vert. 'Cept with projectors.

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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 03:50 AM
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If i do the H4's on my camaro should i get relays and run better wiring or is it uneeded with silverstars?

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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Looks good!
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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i wanted to buy those, i think they look sweet but with the camaros you need 4 and only getting two looks very out of place since they give the headlamps a VERY different look. can you hook up the brights as well like the low beams??
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 02:38 AM
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Spdfrk1990 If i do the H4's on my camaro should i get relays and run better wiring or is it uneeded with silverstars?
you should upgrade the wiring and use relays when doing an H4 upgrade as most that I have seen have higher ratings that the stock sealed beams. Plus, if you use a larger gauge wire and good relays, they could actually be brighter because you aren't trying to pull all that power thru the 15 yo wiring.
I have H4's on my 91 Z/28. Looks killer........
P.S. It's fixed now.

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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 03:10 AM
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What conversion housings do you guys recamend are any of them glass. WHat about the brights did you have to buy a new connector cause there only 2 prong.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 03:12 AM
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mine are glass. I dont have that silly little blue LED light bulb in the bottom of mine either. i will have to check and see what brand they are.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 08:05 AM
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How do you hook up the brights for the camaro with only 2 prongs do you buy new connectors? I actually like the blue led lights also they look cool at cruise in's with the car sitting there and a bunch of blue lights lit up but my car is blue also.
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by iansane
Did that last year when I bought my vert. 'Cept with projectors.

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I want to know details if u will spill the beans. What cases did u use for the projectors,what kind of car did the projectors come from,and how did u make the shroud that goes around the headlight?
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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 12:19 AM
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On mine, the outer lights do everything. The inners have bulbs in them, but the connectors are not hooked up. I am working on a harness that will let the inners work too, but I have many more important projects right now..... 2 of them to be exact.
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 08:22 PM
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i did em a while ago on my camaro

here is the DS all h4's, projectors on the outside and euro's on the inside... there now swapped to projectors on the inside and euros on the outside... im very happy with the euros but disapointed in the projectors as they are not real focal projectors... but when teamed with a high wattage bulb they emit an insane amount of light not realy focused. all the stuff was purchased from matrix racing. and i made the harness myself... overall excellent lighting over the stock setup
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Old Jan 4, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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pass side
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