check this out http://www.k1-styling.sk/
let me know what you think



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Rick
90 Camaro RS 305 TBI
400 on the way!!
TH700-R4 with Trans-Go shift kit
MacEwen Motorsports White Gauge Overlays
K&N Filter Charger (wooohooo)
GTS Headlight and Taillight covers
5% Limo Tint all around
Classic White Chevy Bowtie sticker on rear window

Man if my camaro were a rice-rocket all those mods would give me what...easily 50-60 hp!!!

 

real Cool man

 

I think it doesnt look that good. Its too...ricyyey or somethin

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1992 Camaro RS 3.1L
T5 Manual 5 speed
Open Air Intake
Z-28 Exhaust

 

after lookin at those pics..makes me hungry for japanese food..maybe some rice

 

Give me the car, but keep the wing.

 

6000 big ones for that bitch

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Rick
90 Camaro RS 305 TBI
400 on the way!!
TH700-R4 with Trans-Go shift kit
MacEwen Motorsports White Gauge Overlays
K&N Filter Charger (wooohooo)
GTS Headlight and Taillight covers
5% Limo Tint all around
Classic White Chevy Bowtie sticker on rear window

Man if my camaro were a rice-rocket all those mods would give me what...easily 50-60 hp!!!

 

I think that looks pretty cool. I think it looks exotic not rice. I would consider buying this kit in the future if it is made of quality and realy turns out as nice as it appears to look.

 

it looks bad *** but you can't tell that it's a camaro.

 

its does look pretty neat. it kinda looks like a ferrari or something else exotic. i wouldnt do that to a camaro though b/c you cant even tell that its a camaro. its kind of like hiding your car behind that cover. like when guys with fieros buy lamborghini body kits. but like i said it does look kind of cool in its own way

 

I think it looks awsome. You would have to put a BAD engine under that, cause if you let someone beat you, they would be telling ALL their friends about how they beat a Ferarri!

 

About that last post. How you'd need an awesome engine. Well duh, we have chevy's don't we :-)
On a serious note now. I couldn't even tell which car was a camaro until I saw the interior shot and looked at the guage layout. That looks really weird, I'd probably end up getting that kit just for fun. Why is everybody on this board against asthetics? I get the feeling that everybody wants there cars to look exactly like the engineers wanted them to....back in....THE 80's. What is wrong with updating an aging interior (don't mess too much with the exterior). Another thing that is starting to get on my nerves is how the term "rice" is being so loosely used in every comment. Rice is good stuff used in poor taste. Are you all saying that our cars aren't good enough for ricaro seats and the such? I see rice as having nice rims, racing stripes, aftermarket tack, coffee can, stickers all on a POS stock not ment to race car like honda civics. Just look at most of the cars at the tracks. They have stripes, aftermarket stuff on, some even have stickers on the windows. It seems to me that the "rice" guys know how to make there cars look good even though they're crap. On the other had we're talking about a camaro here, it's got great potential (unlike rice rockets) so why not change the darn thing to look like an exotic and kick the exotic cars *****. I would so be willing to write an article to that "Cars" magazine when a camaro with that kit kicks the crap out of lets say a diablo. It could be faster (383 SC and NOS with good heads), stop faster (bear brakes), handle better, look better, and for Thousands less. Pop the hood and you see a good old Chevy making gobs of hp. Tell me that wouldn't be cool and I'll come over to your house and smack you upside the head. Just kidding, I think that's all I got for now. Like to hear your opinions so post post post and rip my head off why don't you.

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, Jon (91 RS too many mods to list)

 

Activate Flame mode NOW:
Youve got to be fvcking kidding me. first of all our camaros are bad *** but when you put it up next to a viper it looks like a honda. when you put a viper next to a diablo the viper looks like a grass snake (honda). a 383?????????? pleez. the diablo contains a massive v12!!!!!!!!!! with the technology of a italian race car. not a 80s american muscle car. why do i waste my time! you have just disgraced this post.

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Rick
90 Camaro RS 305 TBI
400 small block, Hooker 1 3/4 super comp long tubes, Random Tech Cat, Hooker aero chamber cat back on the way!!
TH700-R4 with Trans-Go shift kit
MacEwen Motorsports White Gauge Overlays
K&N Filter Charger (wooohooo)
GTS Headlight and Taillight covers
5% Limo Tint all around
Classic White Chevy Bowtie sticker on rear window

Man if my camaro were a rice-rocket all those mods would give me what...easily 50-60 hp!!!

 

You guys need to check out speedways vette. Dyno 1650 hp with a 410sb with a custom sheetmedal intake and turbcharged/intercooled monster. Push rod engines might seem ill advanced, but look what you can do with it "Keep it simple stupid" I saw this car and well lets just say its amazing. Don't get me wrong those exotics are awesome and very advanced but don't be so quik to sell out on a well built pushrod engine. You could build a camaro that would kill a diablo on the straights and in the turns all day long and it wouldn't cost $250 grand.

 

im with ya superiroc
Good old American engines could be built to kill any of those cars for less than half of their pric

 

i am in no way dissing our cars. But plain and simple these cars come stock like this. And NO our cars could NOT be rigged to handle like theirs. NOONE offers any kind of suspension like that. These cars are great in their own respect, i own one, but Lambos are clearly superior. If you really think that our cars can handle with a Lambo then your must not know what you are talking about. our cars couldnt handle with a viper with full suspension mods.

 

I think you have been misinformed. A 3rd gen camaro with just bolt on suspenion can easily push 1.3g A viper pushes about .99g I have seen this car do it. Granted these are full race shocks and springs etc and dosn't ride like your caddy, but these car can do it. Why do you think 3rd gen camaros are such a popular road racing machine out west where ther average speed is over 170mph through a canyon of sweeping turns and miles of straights. A know of one such iroc that won the endurance race out in cali a few years ago and that was with vipers and porshes competing with him. This car was featured in high teck about 5 years ago when it was called just high teck magizine wish i still had it.

 

ok are we talking about a heavily modded camaro vs a stock viper?? im sure if this viper had full race suspension it would take the camaro no prob. ok so the iroc won a race...who won the championship. stock for stock the camaro will lose to any "real" high performance car. When heavily modded...sure it can run with the big boys....stock. if these "big boys are fully modded too then the camaro is back to square 1 romping on ricers. sure you can make a camaro fast with thousands less than these "real" high performance cars but why would you want a $50,000 dollar 1980something camaro that sells for 5, when you could have a 2001 viper. like i said before, i am in no way saying our camaros arent a real piece of american made machinery, but why do vipers sell for so much money...cuz they are ready to go right off the lot. same with lamborghinis. also it comes with the name "Ferrari" "Diablo" "Viper" if you rolled up on a hot chick and so did a guy in a new ferrari. You guys race...and you somehow win, so what...shes still gonna go for the guy in the ferrari. Of course if she knew anything about cars she would say wow nice..."camaro".

 

I think this car is serious as heck. i like all of it. i love my camaro. but chevy could have taken some styling hints from these guys. not rice at all. makes me want to take out a loan....

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red camaro with v6 that still kicks but

[This message has been edited by redcamaro83 (edited November 12, 2000).]

 

the camaro won the endurance race. I can't remenber what its called its a anual road race of like 200 miles or something and all the cars were tweaked. Sure i would like a viper to pick up chicks but its also cool to beat old men in there status cars, i didn't buy my camaro to pick up chicks.

 

2001 Lamborghini Diablo VT 6.0 titanium;

Factory Specifications
Engine: 6.0 L V12
Horsepower: 550 bhp @ 7100 rpm
Torque: 620 Nm @ 5500 rpm
0-60 mph: 3.95 sec
Transmission: 5 spd man
Brakes: disc
Curb Weight: 3583 lb
Length: 175.9 in
Width: 80.3 in
Height: 43.5 in
Wheelbase: 104.3 in
Track: 63.4 in
Original Price: $295,000

So the "Massive v12" is only 6.0 NOW. Previous the v12 was only 5.7L. Chevy produces that kind of power in a 6.0 (383) with only a v8. Not to shabby. By the way, a viper doesn't look like a grass snake next to a diablo. They're two different cars. I don't dislike any cars, I'm just sick and tired of people saying how this car is **** or this car isn't even in the same class as this car. BS, a camaro or corvette can race against a viper which usually is seen racing against Ferrari and Lamborghini on the international level. Not saying the camaro's would win, but they can hold their own. Take the LeMans with the 6.0 LS1 engines, only reason the corvettes didn't do better was the tread durability.
Technology of an italian race car!!? They still use MAF's and the such, nothing to fance my friend. The "italian race cars" are tuned very well then offered as stock. What about "amerian race cars" do we not use the same technology? I do believe overhead cams are being used in all race engines now, not just italian. Now you've attacked my honor with saying I've disgraced this post. Will you please meet me in NJ at the Hudson and we'll have a dual, "my sir" (history, burr vs. jackson). Anyways, let me just finish up by telling you to go to another board where you can talk about your "massive v12" engines and "itatian race car technology." This is a thirdgen camaro site or have you forgoten.

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, Jon (91 RS too many mods to list)

 

Okay, you wanna know why most girls would go with the guy with the Ferrari...Read on.
Girls like guys that have money, it's plain and simple, been that way for a while now. They feel that the guy can provide for them better than a guy with a camaro. I see it in a nother sence. I look at it as a guy that has just spent $$$ more than me for the Ferrari badge. I don't respect people that make money and then spend it poorly. Not saying that getting a hot chick with the Ferrari is a bad investment. Just saying I'd preffer a girl that can see how my money management was superior to that guy. He can have the Bimbo, I'll take the hot burnette ;-)
By the way, I have 4 posters in my room. A red corvette, a red camaro, a red ferrari 355, a yellow ferrari 355.

Hey, can we get a Flame board up and transfer this subject as the first Post.
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, Jon (91 RS too many mods to list)

[This message has been edited by JPrevost (edited November 12, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by JPrevost (edited November 12, 2000).]

 

that endurance race might be one of the "One Lap of America" races, which does include alot of porchses, vettes, vipers, and other exotics and a handfull of fbodys.

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And NO our cars could NOT be rigged to handle like theirs. NOONE offers any kind of suspension like that. These cars are great in their own respect, i own one, but Lambos are clearly superior. If you really think that our cars can handle with a Lambo then your must not know what you are talking about. our cars couldnt handle with a viper with full suspension mods. [/B][/QUOTE]


uh black B. i hate 2 say this but have u forgotten about the F1 meclaren this bad boy broke all the rules and set the trend 4 exoctia!! quote from car&driver mag. 99yr issue.



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92 F-BIRd FORMULA T-TOP (WHITEKNIGHT) 5.7L-98,700R4B&MSATURDAY NIGHT
SPECIALTRANS 2500STALL,54MM-AS&M TB-PORTPLENT,LARGETUBRUN,
UNDER PULLEYS K&NCOLD AIR KIT,160THERMO,ELDB HEADERS W/3 1/2 Y PIPE 2 RINO CAT 2 4INCH PIPE 2 FLOW,
MSDDIST,6AL,8MMWIRES.
2BLASTERCOIL.ACCELL PLUGS
CUSTOM FASTCHIP BY ED WRIGHT,AUBERN POSI W/ RICHMOND 3.73 AND SPLINES,TUBE FRAME CONNEC
PST KIT.1LE BRAKE KIT! MANY MORE MODS FORESEEN IN MY ERA!13.38ET @ 109.75MPH

 

There was a magizine that featured a street legal IROC that was faster than a McLaren F1. It was modded to all hell, but was still faster.
As far as handling goes, Chevy High Performance Modded a 92 Z-28, not even very hevily, just some basic bolt on mods, and then compared it's performance to that of a Ferarri, Viper, Porshe, and a new Vette.
I believe the Camaro absolutly destroyed the fat Viper in the slolemn and beat every other car, or came damn close, in the solelmn and the skidpad.
I've seen this kit about 6 months ago and I am probably going to buy this kit as soon as I get the money.
I can have a car that will smoke basically anything else I will come upon on the street, out handle it through the curves, and look better than most anything else you will find, for a good chunk less than a new, BLAND, camaro would cost.
I love the way my IROC looks, but it's getting to the point where there are way too many white trash looking camaro's on the road. I want something different. This car is NOT the same as a Lambo or Ferarri kit for a Fiero. It's not a replica!!!!!

One more question.....do you think Callaway Corvettes, such as the C12, are Rice cars??? It's the same concept. THINK ABOUT IT.


It's been a good two decades since this body style was first designed, and I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to update the apperance of the car the same way you update the performance.

 

I do beleive it was the lap of america. Does anyone remeber that red iroc that was in high teck about 5 years ago i was only 16 then. I think there are some people here who agree you can make a camaro beat these exotics. As for the kit i would like to keep my iroc the way it is but also buy a iroc and put this kit on it so when i did need a hotty i could pick one up.

 

Anyway, back to the subject. That car kit is awesome, if I had the money I'd get it. I've always dreamed of owning a Lamborghini Diablo, this would save me about $250,000. The kit is just plain exotically cool, not *****, the only problem is jealous ****** would have to mess with it.

 

Am i the only one who noticed that hideous interior.
But I still say the exterior of the car looks kind of cool

[This message has been edited by cobrakiller1989 (edited November 12, 2000).]

 

Superiroc,

That Article that you saw in Hightech performance was actually the Nevada State Challenge. I have that copy of the magazine and I believe it was written about 4 years ago.

 

Oh and you are correct to say that the high end cars ( porches, vettes, ferrari and the such) were also modified. But then again the beauty of f-bodies are that the engineers of these cars targeted them at those of us who couldnt afford a $250,000.00 car and yet designed them to leave room for massive upgrades and modifications. So much to the extent that they could eventually (with enough cashed layed down) outrun and out-corner the highends. I just love it!!!

 

well spoken ghostryder!! What issue is that magizine i would like to get a copy if i can. I beleive that car had firehawk wheels and a plain hood(no louvers) and was fast as hell.

 

ok you guys go ahead and think what you will. but the next time you try to run a lambo or ferrari (if they will even race you) and you get beaten...remember me. I personally have ridden in a twin turbo intercooled racing porsche, and a Lamborghini Diablo, our camaros while still nice in their own respects, dont make a dent in what they can do. Whos camaro out there can do 0-60 in under 4 sec??? Hey "super"iroc...you have 550hp??? sure you could...with a stroked 400. and a supercharger. but this diablo has it stock...and it better with that price tag. i have ridden and driven in 11 second mustangs and it feels like a honda next to the lambo. ive see 10 sec syclones run the 1/4 and seen a lambo take off...its not the same...they are sick. My fathers best friend has two diablos, and the previously spoken of porsche...so i have seen them all perform. make no mistake, i love my camaro and it will be real fast one day...and maybe one day i will beat a viper...just like when a honda works REALLY hard it can sometimes beat us...but i would trade it in a second for a Lamborghini.

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Rick
90 Camaro RS 305 TBI
400 small block, Hooker 1 3/4 super comp long tubes, Random Tech Cat, Hooker aero chamber cat back on the way!!
TH700-R4 with Trans-Go shift kit
MacEwen Motorsports White Gauge Overlays
K&N Filter Charger (wooohooo)
GTS Headlight and Taillight covers
5% Limo Tint all around
Classic White Chevy Bowtie sticker on rear window

Man if my camaro were a rice-rocket all those mods would give me what...easily 50-60 hp!!!

 

ok i understand et is just a function of traction thanks, but a 10 sec syclone that goes 10s at 124mph is not the same as a camaro runing 10s at 140 mph. How about a vette that goes 165mph with one turbo and small block . How about a 355 with twin turbo going 160mph in a iroc. Lets see a diablo good for about 119mph and oh yeagh that vette has a 3:42 IRS rear not exactly a drag ratio/setup. You can argue handling if you like but power is not an issue. Lingenfelter can take a ZR-1 motor and make 550 hp full emisions thru the cats and all motor. Thats right one of his zr-1 actualy beat a maclaren f1 going something like 228mph with no power adder and the italion cars well they were left in the dust(motortrend). The fact of the matter is most people who have the money and knowledge to build a serios camaro will just buy a diablo but there are still a few that will take a american car just to make a point, or beating of some exotic.

 

Here's my two cents...

If you have a car... MODIFY IT!

I could buy a $15,000 Honda a build the **** out of it for a lot less... but I like Camaro's - PERIOD.

As far as BLACK BEAUTY goes... A Lambo V12 is by no means massive. The pistons on my single piston, two stroke 4-wheeler a twice the size of those. It has big horsepower but a very small V12 compared to the great American V8. It is called T-E-C-H-N-O-L-O-G-Y. The SBC has not changed since... who knows when... 50's or 60's.

Check out my webiste, I love my car but I wouldn't mind putting some rims that others would consider "*****" on my car.

Whatever you got, build it! My daily driver is a '99 Ford Ranger. It took me 2 months before I had a roll pan, fiberglass cap and clear corners/tails on it. The worst part is, it's 4-wheel drive. If that don't sound "*****" nothing does... but it looks damn good!

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92 Z28 - 5.7 - Black/Grey Leather
Macewen White Faced Guages
SLP T-RAM, 24lb/h Injectors
Accell 52mm Throttle Body
SLP 1 3/4" Headers and Cat Back Sys.

My T-Rammed L98

 

ok maybe massive wasnt the right word...how about..."larger than a chevy small block"...also in my first post about this...i said CAMAROS...willn never equal a lambo..etc etc. you guys have given some good fighting material...but you have also brought corvettes into the picture...yeah...corvettes are badass especially the LeMans c5-r which leaves vipers in the dust...but that comes with a fat price tag of 300,000 through Pratt & Miller of michigan. and of course this include the LS1...this one making an impressive 600hp at 7000 rpm. i am speaking of 3rd gen heavy camaros that i love and cherish with all my heart...but...are not lamborghinis...and do not run with them...especially not on a twisty road. yes 502 rat motors in our camaros will murder a lambo at the strip...but they are NOT lamborghini material.

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Rick
90 Camaro RS 305 TBI
400 small block, Hooker 1 3/4 super comp long tubes, Random Tech Cat, Hooker aero chamber cat back on the way!!
TH700-R4 with Trans-Go shift kit
MacEwen Motorsports White Gauge Overlays
K&N Filter Charger (wooohooo)
GTS Headlight and Taillight covers
5% Limo Tint all around
Classic White Chevy Bowtie sticker on rear window

Man if my camaro were a rice-rocket all those mods would give me what...easily 50-60 hp!!!

 

you guys are calling the lambo and ferrari and the rest of them stock, which is true because that is how they come. But in another sense those engines are so beefed up when you get it that it is almost already at its greatest potential. when these cars are compared to our cars, we sometimes forget how our cars are mass produced and machine assembled. these "exotic" cars are built by hand and are lucky to produce 20 a year. what i am saying is that if you put $250,000 into a camaro 99.9% of the time you will dust any car, whether its in the skidpad or the 1/4 mile or whatever type of race you might want to try. but although those car perform well i dont believe that performance is the only reason that they are built. I think it has more to do with how rare and "exotic" they are and performance comes a little farther dosn the list. Basically what i am getting at is that Camaros are awesome as are lambos, ferraris, mcclarens, etc. but we are comparing apples and oranges. these types of cars are built for completely different reasons. And since all of us here are thirdgeners with bad a$$ cars, cant we all jsut get along.

 

ok i will stop arguing after this final post. I never talked about a heavy big block and the vette i was talking about is powered by a plain old sb pushrod engine. SB chevys have come a long way as people have tweaked and learned how to make them work. I will say it one last time and then i will let it go, you can make a 3rd gen iroc go faster and turn better than a lambo with a lot of forethought and money that being you don't make 100 grand or better a year. My car will sometime prove this if i ever get out of college. I'am done and i will let it go.

 

super...you have proven to be a formidable opponent who knows his ****. now a lot of stuff i said with out knowledge or proof...and i acknowledge that camaros can make awesome canyon carvers but until i see it i wont believe that it can take a lambo. as for the strip...a 400 small block can make 1900 hp with a twin turbo setup from ken duttweiler....that will murder the diablo. see you later...Rick

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Rick
90 Camaro RS 305 TBI
400 small block, Hooker 1 3/4 super comp long tubes, Random Tech Cat, Hooker aero chamber cat back on the way!!
TH700-R4 with Trans-Go shift kit
MacEwen Motorsports White Gauge Overlays
K&N Filter Charger (wooohooo)
GTS Headlight and Taillight covers
5% Limo Tint all around
Classic White Chevy Bowtie sticker on rear window

Man if my camaro were a rice-rocket all those mods would give me what...easily 50-60 hp!!!

 

I think it looks ok but leme put it like this for the price of that i can go out and buy my self a frame of a 69 camaro and buy a 502 big block and have the car ive aways wanted....

 

Okay, now that the flames have come down a bit I'd like to reply to the post about bringing in corvettes into the picture. I was the guy that did that. Sorry if it wasn't clear but I was trying to stress how camaro's race against corvettes and corvettes race against blah blah etc. One more thing, independant suspension is an advantage....or is it? I do believe independant suspensions, larger stock wheels, and lower center of gravity are the only advatages a corvette has over an F-body (don't feel like finding the wheelbase info etc). I know for a fact that f-body's can be lowered, can have independant suspensions installed (corvette fitted, a guy did this, can't remember who), and larger wheels can be installed. Both the camaro and corvette have small block engines that are just tuned differently, that is all, so anything that a y-body can get an f-body can have (for less $). My point now is that a corvette can handle with the exotics and so can an f-body. Granted an f-body was never intended to do so but it can be done and for less money than corvettes, vipers, etc. Sorry for jumping all over you Rick, I just love our cars too much :-) Hopefully we've all learned something and lets focus our rage onto Mustangs and Riceboys.
Oh yeah, about the interior with the kit. Yes I think it looks a bit out of place with all that red, but let me try something and tell me if you like it. I try and imagine it all in black or grey.




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, Jon (91 RS too many mods to list)

[This message has been edited by JPrevost (edited November 13, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by JPrevost (edited November 13, 2000).]

[This message has been edited by JPrevost (edited November 13, 2000).]

 

Here are some cleaner pics:

Gray: http://www5.ewebcity.com/fbodyperfor...s/int1_new.jpg

Blue: http://www5.ewebcity.com/fbodyperfor...s/int1_red.jpg

Red: http://www5.ewebcity.com/fbodyperfor.../int1_blue.jpg

 

ill quote myself

 

I was trying to make a point. The Red and Blue do look pretty bad. But if you can imagine it all in black it would be very nice. I do think I would get rid of the climate controls and install some kind of electronic system just because I never liked our sliding controls much. What do you guys think if the cars exterior was yellow and interior was all black.

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, Jon (91 RS too many mods to list)

 

Most of you Im sure noticed that this company is in europe. We are all familiar with euro styling... I have lived here for several years; if you saw what they do to our American cars it would make you sick. Their concept of cars are completly diferent. So before you go calling it a Japanese rice burner, (dont get me wrong, im no rice fan) understand that its influenced from a different part of the world. Compared to what I have seen them do to US cars, this actually surpasses them all by far. Most important, they dont care if it looks like a camaro or not... its not native to them. If your like me, a true "rice" camaro makes me sick, but K-1 isnt rice, its euro, like it or not.

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91 Z28, 383 stroker soon

[This message has been edited by gregz28 (edited November 14, 2000).]

 

Don't get me wrong I like Vipers and all those exoctic cars, but check this pic out! www.zlx.com/camaro/zl1.htm

 

your black and grey did look a lot better than the red or blue but i was just stating that i didnt like the design at all. Just an opinion, adn you know what they say about opinions. no flame intended and nice rendering of that photo

 

Actually the co. isn't in europe, it's in Illinois where the put the prototype up. The kit is being made in the c.republic. Personally I think all european car interiors look good. I would much rather have a 4th gen camaro interior in our cars but the dash does look better than our normal square center console etc. I'd just like to see the interior updated, not saying our interior is butt. Just saying there is a lot of style overlooked. It might have been the bomb back in 84, but now it just doesn't compare to a new interior of any car. I do however like the fact that our car has leg room and how just removing a stupid panel can give the passenger even more foot room. Okay, I think this should be the last post for this subject. It's getting old.

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, Jon (91 RS too many mods to list)

 

THAT ZL1 IS BAD AS ****

[This message has been edited by cobrakiller1989 (edited November 16, 2000).]

 

I agree, that ZL1 is somethin else...I gotta git me one a those...
But i'm still kinda partial to the 69 ZL1... theres this Camaro book I got at home that has a pic of a black w/ white int "Plain Jane" 69 ZL1 and I almost bust one every time i look at it...

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90 IROC 5.7l (L98)
ram air, K&N's, air foil,Flows

LIKE A ROC