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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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I think I have said it before, but if you ever want to sell the blue iroc, let me know
Old Dec 14, 2006 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueZee28
Exactly, that's the best part about these projects: Bonding with your dad



oo ya me bonding with my dad lol HUDGE JOKE

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me hey im gonna go get primer adn u can help me out
dad f that car its a pile of sh**
me what ever ill finish restoring it myself
dad good cause iw ant nothing to do with it


thats all he says so thats why i havent got a lot done with it and the rents dish no money so its all my money and hard earned work into it
Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by david068513
it looks really nice. how much did you sell it for?
$4,800

I know we coulda got quite a bit more for it, but after getting ZERO bids in an ebay auction, and having it listed on Fbody sites for 3 months, we just wanted it gone. Got sick of looking at it sitting there with a for sale sign. Do I miss the car? Sure, my dad and I both put a lot of man hours into it. But do I like our new project more? Of coarse
Originally Posted by JB22
I think I have said it before, but if you ever want to sell the blue iroc, let me know

When it's finished it will most likely become my mom's car. If she doesn't want it then my dad says he's gonna sell it for $8,000-$8,500.
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 01:09 PM
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$4,800

I know we coulda got quite a bit more for it, but after getting ZERO bids in an ebay auction, and having it listed on Fbody sites for 3 months, we just wanted it gone. Got sick of looking at it sitting there with a for sale sign. Do I miss the car? Sure, my dad and I both put a lot of man hours into it. But do I like our new project more? Of coarse



When it's finished it will most likely become my mom's car. If she doesn't want it then my dad says he's gonna sell it for $8,000-$8,500.

that was a steal i should have bought it but i got my z and i love it
Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:49 PM
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any news on it?
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by david068513
any news on it?
Nope, probably won't have any more painting done till after Christmas. Actually, probably not till after New Years. I'm off school until the 14th I believe, so that will give me a good 2 weeks to do some more work on it. I'm way too busy right now and I still haven't finished my christmas shopping


Only thing that's changed on the car recently is teh heat shield has come loose and the cats need to be fixed so they dont hit the bottom of the car when I'm driving it
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I see that I'm a little late, but... Sweet project.

That is the exact twin of my car when it rolled off the assembly line, before C&C did the T-top conversion way back when it was still new.
Mine was also a 1990 blue LB9 5-speed G92 hardtop car with gray interior.
What's funny is that I swapped in most of the black interior too, and our cars have the same mileage.

Of course mine's a bit different now than it was new, having T-tops, different wheels and hood, no stripe, tinted windows, 45 more cubes, 1 more gear, two turbos under the hood and a big ol' front mount shining through the grill opening.
Even after saying all that, I praise you for restoring it to stock. That's sweet!

BTW, if you haven't figured it out by now, yes the G92 cars had the oil heat exchangers. It's option KC4 in your RPO list.

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Old Dec 19, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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I never knew you were in college park, md ur only like 40 mins away from me...kinda cool

Your blue iroc is sweet, ive always liked it you have any updated threads with pics?
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueZee28
$4,800

I know we coulda got quite a bit more for it, but after getting ZERO bids in an ebay auction, and having it listed on Fbody sites for 3 months, we just wanted it gone. Got sick of looking at it sitting there with a for sale sign. Do I miss the car? Sure, my dad and I both put a lot of man hours into it. But do I like our new project more? Of coarse



When it's finished it will most likely become my mom's car. If she doesn't want it then my dad says he's gonna sell it for $8,000-$8,500.
When the time comes, definitely let me know. VERY interested!
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Originally Posted by Stevo
I never knew you were in college park, md ur only like 40 mins away from me...kinda cool

Your blue iroc is sweet, ive always liked it you have any updated threads with pics?
Cool, and thanks. I just moved here a month ago. Seems like there are a lot of TGO'ers around this area.

I have a long thread on "Project TWNTRBO" with some pics that I started a long time ago, but I type a lot so beware, heh...
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/powe...o-updates.html

I always wanted to build my dream thirdgen and then have an exact STOCK copy of it to keep mint. This blue '90 would be perfect!
Old Jan 1, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Car: 1992 z28/1992 RS heritage edition
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hey how is eveything going with the car? any updates? pics? what are your plans before school?
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Old Jan 2, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by david068513
hey how is eveything going with the car? any updates? pics? what are your plans before school?
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The plan is that either this thursday or friday we'll be stripping the rest of the top half of the car, and putting it in primer. We're gonna send it to a body shop to get rid of the door dings in it before we do the bottom of the car, because we want the panels to be 100% straight as an arrow. So after thursday or friday I will drop it off at a shop hopefully later this month, can't do it right away because i need this car to drive around while my convertible is getting the front suspension worked on.
Old Jan 3, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueZee28
The plan is that either this thursday or friday we'll be stripping the rest of the top half of the car, and putting it in primer. We're gonna send it to a body shop to get rid of the door dings in it before we do the bottom of the car, because we want the panels to be 100% straight as an arrow. So after thursday or friday I will drop it off at a shop hopefully later this month, can't do it right away because i need this car to drive around while my convertible is getting the front suspension worked on.

sounds good post some pics when you get it done.
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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Update 1/20/07

Right now as it sits, the hood is in primer, and the roof/top half of the quarter panels are ready to be primed. Tomorrow the whole top half of the car will be primered, and possibly the trunk lid and spoiler as well. It's a pretty long process since my dad works during the day and I go to school and work at night. So we have to find time that we can both work on it, and today was a good day to do a little more work! I also took a small video to show you guys how CRAPPY the paint is on the car. It came off soooo easy :yahoo:



Here's the video of a portion of the paint removal:
http://media.putfile.com/Crappy-paint


And the pictures:




Old Jan 21, 2007 | 07:45 AM
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Congradulations on the progress! I tried looking at the video, but i need a plug in, it kinda upsets me that when i did that to my car it wasnt as nice. Did you use a spray gun for the primer? Im kind of mad that Im not into apearence as much as I am into performance..
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Congradulations on the progress! I tried looking at the video, but i need a plug in, it kinda upsets me that when i did that to my car it wasnt as nice. Did you use a spray gun for the primer? Im kind of mad that Im not into apearence as much as I am into performance..
The video is hosted on putfile, so whatever plug in you need for it I'm not sure. I do know it's not a long video or high quality, so if you decide to get the plug in, it won't take long to load.

Yea we use a spray gun for the primer. We're going to let the hood and top half of the car stay in primer until later when we have time to do the rest of the car. Don't worry, we'll sand it down and then shoot one last coat of primer on it before we paint it. We know how primer stands up to the elements.
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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i know you've heard it 1,000,000 times since starting this thread but MAN that car is BEAUTIFUL!! i have wanted to find a blue IROC for quite some time and to find one with that low of miles and those options, man what a smokin deal! i love the direction you're going with 'er, thanks for sharing the pics with us!

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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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love whats going on so far...can't wait to see it finished!!!
Old Jan 21, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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I can't wait till it's finished either. It's my DD right now and I feel like a hoosier/***** driving around with a primered hood.
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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did you ever get the pics of all the cars?
Old Jan 23, 2007 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by david068513
did you ever get the pics of all the cars?
All I've got are in this thread:



https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/auto...other-3rd.html

That has the back end of my convertible in 2 of the pictures, and the '90 was in the garage awaiting primer. I'll get some maybe this weekend with all 3 cars in the photo.
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Originally Posted by Irocman86
oo ya me bonding with my dad lol HUDGE JOKE

i quote


me hey im gonna go get primer adn u can help me out
dad f that car its a pile of sh**
me what ever ill finish restoring it myself
dad good cause iw ant nothing to do with it


thats all he says so thats why i havent got a lot done with it and the rents dish no money so its all my money and hard earned work into it
Honestly, and I'm not trying to be a douchebag, but I dont really blame your dad. And the whole thing with your parents not "dishing out money", umm.... why would they? lol
Old Jan 24, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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The top half of the car is now in primer, and the hood has already been sanded down. All the pinstriping has been removed along with the Tuned Port Injection decals on the rocker panels. Tomorrow morning, we'll be sanding down the roof and sanding the filler we used to cover up a few dime sized dings, and then we'll respray some more primer, and then it will be ready for color in no time.

I miss driving the thing, I love that 5spd. I am on the prowl to get a T5 for the convertible now, 8)





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Dad went ahead and sprayed a few coats of color on the IROC while I was at work tonight. I wanted to do some of the color too but I had to work! Oh well, both doors need to be re-primered and sprayed again because the paint lifted off for some reason. :x

So basically, the car should be done (clear coat finished) by the end of the weekend and we'll get the correct stripes and what not put on next week. So as of right now, here she is with no clear coat and with two crappy doors. 8)





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How come he didn't mask off the entire wheel well so he didn't get blue paint in them? The guy that painted my car didn't do that so I have still have red wheel wells I haven't had time to fix.
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 11:21 PM
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How come he didn't mask off the entire wheel well so he didn't get blue paint in them? The guy that painted my car didn't do that so I have still have red wheel wells I haven't had time to fix.
We're going to probably end up taking a brush and some black paint and painting the inner fenders anyways. That's what we did on the red '89.
Old Jan 26, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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looking sweet, wish i was better with paint/bodywork myself. the thought is daunting...
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 12:04 AM
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looking sweet, wish i was better with paint/bodywork myself. the thought is daunting...
I've always wanted to paint my own car
Old Jan 27, 2007 | 02:00 AM
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I've always wanted to paint my own car
I second that.

I guess the first time I realized I wasn't cut out for painting was when i tried to paint that model I had of a 69 camaro...


...then again, I was using markers.
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First coat of clear is on now, it's drying and then tomorrow we'll wetsand it very carefully. We got 2 small runs in the clear around the hatch when we were painting the "hatch-jam". And a mop fell over and hit the hood and went straight thru the paint We'll have to respray some blue on the hood and then blend it. Should have everything done paint-wise by tuesday or wednesday and then we'll be putting on the stripes.
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just subscribing. great find and good job. nice to see you keeping such a rare car nice and stock...and saving it.
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 12:38 AM
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Here's 3 teaser pics for ya

It's only got one coat of clear on it, the tails have clear as well. Tomorrow we're sanding and then putting another coat of clear on. Probably gonna go with 3-4 coats before we buff it out.







Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:21 AM
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What product do you use to buff it out? What exactly does the buffing change?
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 09:01 AM
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haha how did i miss this thread? very nice find nick! i cant wait to see it all done, its gonna be so sexy.
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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good job man.. I wish i knew how and had a place to paint. How did your dad and you learn?
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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so what year is the marron iroc.
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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What product do you use to buff it out? What exactly does the buffing change?
All the post-paint materials we use are 3M. (rubbing compound, polish, etc)
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haha how did i miss this thread? very nice find nick! i cant wait to see it all done, its gonna be so sexy.
I thought I told you about this one

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good job man.. I wish i knew how and had a place to paint. How did your dad and you learn?
I am learning from my dad. He grew up doing this kind of thing in high school, buying old Camaros and Firebirds and fixing them up to sell them to friends. Between his high school years and present day, he's owned 13 or 14 Fbodies ranging from '69 Camaros/Firebirds to Bandit T/A's to 3rd gens

Originally Posted by Carpenters87Irc
so what year is the marron iroc.
The maroon IROC-Z was a 1989. A friend of a friend bought it and I see it every now and then, I sometimes hang out with the kid.
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Just wondering, not to bash (really, I am not bashing), but why, if you are "restoring" this car, none of the trim was removed? Bumpers, ground effects, mirrors, door moldings, weatherstrips, handles, locks, antenna bezel (literally a 30 second R&I)? Also, why is the IROC-Z door decal on already, if you guys plan on adding more clear?

Looking at the pics of the roof in prime, it looks like the factory door decal was just left on - did you guys just tape around it??

I'm just wondering why if so much care is being taken, why all the "little stuff that makes all the difference" is being overlooked?
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Stuart S
Just wondering, not to bash (really, I am not bashing), but why, if you are "restoring" this car, none of the trim was removed? Bumpers, ground effects, mirrors, door moldings, weatherstrips, handles, locks, antenna bezel (literally a 30 second R&I)? Also, why is the IROC-Z door decal on already, if you guys plan on adding more clear?

Looking at the pics of the roof in prime, it looks like the factory door decal was just left on - did you guys just tape around it??

I'm just wondering why if so much care is being taken, why all the "little stuff that makes all the difference" is being overlooked?
I was wondering the same thing. In the pic of the primered B-piller, I see lines from the body work underneath, and the cleared finish looks like it was put on very dry. plus, like stu said, it's a shame that you didn't take the time to remove things instead of mask around them. That makes all the difference in the quality of a paint job, and when it's a DIY effort, it doesn't cost any more.
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Old Jan 29, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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lol you probly did tell me about this and i just never got around to looking at it or i just forgot lol. i was wondering the same thing also about not taking all the trim off..
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim85IROC
I was wondering the same thing. In the pic of the primered B-piller, I see lines from the body work underneath, and the cleared finish looks like it was put on very dry. plus, like stu said, it's a shame that you didn't take the time to remove things instead of mask around them. That makes all the difference in the quality of a paint job, and when it's a DIY effort, it doesn't cost any more.
Honestly, I don't see what the point is of taking off all that other stuff like the side moldings, the bumpers, etc. Really the only paint on the car that was totally screwed up was the hood and the roof of the car. The rest still had perfectly good clear coat on it. There's not even any flaking on the paint under the hood, or in the door jams. It wouldn't be worth the effort to remove every small thing on the car if the paint underneath is still good. And yes, we did mask off the door decals, because if we removed them we'd be spending another $70-80 to get new HIGH quality ones to put on. Again, they're in good condition still, along with the clear coat that surrounds them. So we masked them off and went to town. We uncovered them after the first coat of clear because we're going to spray some clear over the top of them.

And another thing, just because a car isn't rottiserie style restored, doesn't mean it hasn't been restored. Just because we didn't rip out all the seats and carpet and every single piece of trim, does not mean that this car is not being restored. It's going to look and drive like it did back in 1990 with few small changes such as the tail lights and door decals having clear coat on them. If someone has a huge problem with that, then I have only one solution for them. Get over it lol

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i agree Blue...i think ya'll are doing a jam-up job on it!!

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we weren't bashing nick, just wondering why you were doing things the way you were. lol. any more pics?
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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The only problem with painting one that way is that your clear forms a bridge between your bumper and ground effect where they mount to the car. thus the flexing causes these areas to crack. eventualy leadind these areas to peel. Trust me i know my red 92 is like that cause it was sprayed being together. Nothing really wrong with doing that way, just depends on who long you want it to look good.

Blue im not trying to bash you or your father, because that is a really good looking car. And you both do good work. Cant wait for finished pics.
Old Jan 29, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueZee28
Honestly, I don't see what the point is of taking off all that other stuff like the side moldings, the bumpers, etc. Really the only paint on the car that was totally screwed up was the hood and the roof of the car.
OK. Beyond the fact that you'll get an "edge" on everything, and that the moldings aren't supposed to be painted, that's fine...

Originally Posted by BlueZee28
The rest still had perfectly good clear coat on it. There's not even any flaking on the paint under the hood, or in the door jams. It wouldn't be worth the effort to remove every small thing on the car if the paint underneath is still good.
Nobody questioned why you weren't painting the jambs, underhood, etc...

Originally Posted by BlueZee28
And yes, we did mask off the door decals, because if we removed them we'd be spending another $70-80 to get new HIGH quality ones to put on. Again, they're in good condition still, along with the clear coat that surrounds them. So we masked them off and went to town. We uncovered them after the first coat of clear because we're going to spray some clear over the top of them.
That's just cheesy. Sorry. And I don't say that in a mean way.

Originally Posted by BlueZee28
And another thing, just because a car isn't rottiserie style restored, doesn't mean it hasn't been restored. Just because we didn't rip out all the seats and carpet and every single piece of trim, does not mean that this car is not being restored. It's going to look and drive like it did back in 1990 with few small changes such as the tail lights and door decals having clear coat on them. If someone has a huge problem with that, then I have only one solution for them. Get over it lol
No problem with it, it's your car... to me that isn't "restored" though... it's repainted, yes... but don't turn around and expect that it's at the level of a car where those precautions actually were taken, and don't think it's worth anywhere near the same amount... To be honest, doing a car the way you are, just makes a harder task for someone "fully restoring" that car at a later time... along with the fact that any trim with paint on it, will most likely be replaced...

And not for nothing, "taking a brush and some black paint and painting the inner fenders" has gotta be one of the tackiest things I've ever heard. The front liners come out in about 5 minutes, and is it really that much effort to tape off the rears, and reshoot them with either rubberized undercoating, or just black paint?

In the past, when I saw pics of your old Maroon car, it was pretty impressive looking. I even remember reading the ebay auction... and based on the pics, the price seemed more than fair; but now, seeing the shortcuts taken on this car, I'm questioning if it was just the result of good camera work... again, I am not saying this to bash of offend in any way...
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i just gotta say its not the end of the world... the cars going look great .. people have their own thoughts.. they painted my car all together i had no problem with it.. you got a sweet collection of third gens the car is looking sweet..



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