I wanna get feed back from the members on things that could be done better, or things that could improve this section of the site. So I am asking for some feedback from you guys. I know we won't be re-vamping the entire system as it is fairly easy to operate in this manor, but I'd like to hear what you guys have to say.

I would also like to get some suggestions on further monthly themes for the COTM. We have had two months of "open" voting, a "stock appearing" theme, and now "Convertibles". I'm thinking maybe doing a "race car class - non street driven" and "Race car - Street driven" ? Show car? I'm open to suggetions, and this is the thread to do it.

Thanks everyone!

 

I would like to see the 12 categories and their corresponding months posted in list form in the OP of each COTM thread, it would help establish a more structured COTM IMO.

categories:

1. unique motor swaps (non SBC, LTX, LSX, chevy v6), diesel, ford motors, pontiac motors, turbo buick, import motors, ect. THis may be hard to find enough cars for though...

2. Paint - Cannont be stock paint colors if solid, anything else goes

3. Race car is cool, i think the street/non-street driven is a bit to specific.

4. a few open months a year would be nice too

5. stock

6. action/rolling shots

7. burnout pics

 

Its peoples choice. Why categorize it? Theres a reason why the ones that won the first 2 months won. Why? Because their built to be the best looking and perform up to todays standards.

Just my 2 cents to be honest, I guess making each month specific will please the ones complaining that they never got a chance.

 

I don't think a "show car" class would work too well. Thats too general and you'd see people that won a trophy at a local high school fundraiser car show trying to get nominated and the guys with real trailer queens that hit the 100 point shows are not gonna be too enthusiastic about it.

Plus how do you determine if a car that goes to car shows is truly just a show car? Can thy not drive it?

 

i think one over looked but very cool category is

"Rolling shots".. pictures of the cars in motion

 

Then it would be picture of the month. Not car of the month.

 

I see what everyone is saying....but man...why does it have to be this hard? I own several different cars and I'm a registered member on each site with each car. They just have a plain and simple "car of the month"....no categories of any kind. The "plain jane" cars compete with the "show cars" and so on. Sorry if I sound blunt....but there are honestly almost to many choices/categories we can break the cars down into.

Before we know it...we will have categories like..."fatest tires", "biggest rims", "customized" "show car", "stock", "lowest", "race", "ghetto", "convertible" "t-top", "hardtop".....and so on...

 

i'm still waiting for gen 3 swapped, blue camaro, cowl hood, and 6 point roll bar 84 Z28 camaro with 85-90 ground effects and 91-92 Z28 rear spoiler on billet specialties COTM.



I got that on lockdown

 

Thanks for all the replies here fellas! There is so much of this I agree with. There originally has been the thought that the COTM needed to be opened up to include other themes of vehicle to keep this from being the popularity contest with Modified Camaros (site is full of em). Having themes would allow some really nice cars that maybe don't fit in that modified to the hilt theme... I'm torn on this personally, but JT and I agreed that we would give it a try.

I wanted to hear what you guys thought, so this great to get all this feedback.

In regard to the monthly themes I agree that it would be best to know all 12 months in advance (partly why I asked here).

Maybe what would be a good mix is to have every other month an "open" month where "run what you brung" type and whoever wins wins like the first 2 months were. The themed months can help keep some of the interest in other areas up?

 

I do Like the thought of different catagories, but to be honest, I dont think its THAT practical. I think that there should be 2 months open, then a specialty month, then another two months. The four main Catagories should be (since there is only room for four in this 12 month 2 + 1 format), Stock, Convertable, Street Modified, and Competition (Including track cars and drag racers). That I think would work best. Just my .

 

No idea if this has been suggested but how about project of the month, for people like me lol whose car isn't finished but has a good future. Or just a good car to start with. Maybe a rare project car too. Catching on maybe??

 

Not too shabby. But that should be in addition to COTM.

 

oop's that what I mean't just a project category in car of the month

 

I did speak with JT about this thought, cause it was one I also had. We would like to keep it with "finished" cars that "highlight" thirdgens as a whole. There is a plan for a main page display of or COTM winners, and pics of a project car might not fit what JT's plan is for that... at least for now.

I do like the idea. A project though is really hard to get a members opinion on the full scope of it without tons of pics, and info. I feel it could get really cluttered. One way or another for now, "finished" cars is what COTM with have to be.

 

You forgot "Largest Spoiler" Lol!

 

Keep it at "finished" cars...there are too many project cars on this board. I don't know how many times i've read, "it's never done."

I do think 2 months of open nominations and 1 month of Stock/Modified/Convertible/(Something else,) or even doing year specific months (ex. 82-84/85-87/88-90/91-92) would be best.

 

True true. I think every thirdgen is a project haha.

 

I've seen it work both open and restrictive on quite a few other boards. I like it open but most on this board tend to favor a handful of cars and I fear the general masses won't see some really unique and cool cars without closed or categorized months. One or two free-for-all months are almost required. Maybe a month restricted to administrator/moderator cars? If you ever have a red lsx'd trans am convertible month, I think I may have a shot.

I wouldn't hesitate to say my car isn't finished. And it never will be. Or do you mean "drive-able"?

 

I say just make two "of the month" themes, car of the month / and action shot of the month, both categories open to all cars

 

I believe what BADNBLK meant by "finished" and how I understood it is yes, driveable and assembled. Finished(for now), but not finished in the long run. Like you said, "it never will be."

 

My car is not finished either, but is is complete in every sense. I would change so much stuff if time and money allowed. So yeah "finished" (notice the quotation marks) cars is what the goal is at this time.

 

How about Canadian COTM?
Maybe a documented long hauler category. For someone who puts a LOT of miles on their cars. It's always cool to pass another 3rd gen when travelling cross country.
Thought I'd ask.

 

Considering this is an international board I don't think that it would really be fair for just a Canadian COTM.

Long haul... hard to prove man.

 

I think it makes sense to categorize it, or the same 8-10 cars would be in consideration each month.

 

This is true. But just like the Oscars, there's a category for best foreign film.

 

Plenty in the 3rd gen crowd have been on long trips with photos in their archives to show they've been there and back. It WOULD have to be self nominating though.

 

Foreign? There is a regional section that I'm sure if you wanted to make a COTM thread there for just the Canadians you could do so. Since this is now TGO approved and TGO is global each months winner will not be determined by location, but on quality and popularity of the nominated cars

 

I agree that having categories would be the best way to do it. It would give most members a chance to get their car on there. My car is nowhere near some cars on here, like Sickness or Sinister, but it also is not at the low end either, and I think most members fall in that range. I would like to see categories like, rolling shots, burnouts, stock, verts, modified and so on. Keep the topics broad enough to where lots of members would be able to qualify. Again, my car might not hold its own against some of the modified cars on here, but I might be able to get a nice rolling shot that might but me in the running.

 

yepp, I dont like the categories either, the niceest, coolest cars should be winning COTM. Instead of whining about how it's not fair for some lower/average cars to have to compete with the best of the best, people need to step it up and make their car able to win outright if they care that much. But hey its america everybody wants a hand out....

 

A hand out? I havent read one post on this thread where someone was whining and looking for a hand out!

Did notice that you change your mind pretty quickly though!
So, which is it? Yay or nay for categories?

 

The COTM is choosen by majority vote from the TGO members and will represent third gen f-bodies and TGO. There should be a dedicated page to see each selected vehicle, and maybe a small description or history of the car. I would leave it to an open vote with no category. However, to occasionlly add a special dedication, hardship, project, or other unique reason COTM can tastefully be accomplished, with the purpose of once again, representing third gen f-bodies, TGO, and its members.

 

This should get good......lol

 

Don't ask for TGO member opinions.

 

I think we need a "build section". Take a look at what it says under auto detailing and appearance, it says:

"Tips and tricks on how to make your Third Gen shine! Get opinions on products or how something tasteful looks on your Chevrolet Camaro or Pontiac Firebird".

yet nothing in here has to do with any of that. ex: this thread!

Auto detailing and appearance is cluttered with a bunch of random threads. why are there camaro and firebird sub categories after it? all they have is build threads in them! nothing to do with detailing specific parts of camaros or firebirds.

in my opinion create a camaro and firebird build section, and get rid of the sub categorize under auto detailing and appearance (they don't belong there)

just how i feel

 

haha ummm pretty sure i read this as suggestions for the site... does anyone even care about the camaro of the month? i know i dont

 

How can you be that confused? The title of this thread says "COTM Suggestion Thread".

 

The Camaro and Firebird sub-forum is for members to post pictures of their own Camaro or Firebird, as well as have a place to post about their Camaro or Firebird (i.e., build threads). As to why those sections are under the Appearance and Detailing forum, it's because they're partly for members to simply pictures of their ThirdGens and the Appearance and Detailing was previously housing some of those threads. Basically, it's a section for members to post their ThirdGens (pictures or build threads) as the descriptions of those forums state. Right now, I don't see this changing. The more sections we add, the more scattered the material will be. Right now there's some consolidation.

 

How about "Car Of The Month Interiors"?

 

Possibly a photography board?

I don't understand the whole deal about not liking categories. I think as long as they are broad enough like modified or stock appearing they would be fine. I think convertibles is a little too specific considering the production numbers; the most specific I would go would be like base model or the higher trim models. However, who says that just because someone has an immaculate stock car that it is of lesser quality than a modified one? I think last month should be proof otherwise. Even if there are categories, I agree that at least half of the months should be open.

Has anyone considered the idea of some sort of car of the year? I don't know how it would work, but I think it might be cool.

 

DD/street cars with new paint / a finished look about them with a rake/muscle car look. .That would eliminate any stock or cars set up to look stock and pro track cars.
Yes my car does fall under that category,along with many others.

 

1. The idea is to keep the crazy modded cars from swamping the votes and making us overlook the super nice factory stock cars, right? Since the modded cars are far more common, I say do 3 months open, 1 month stock theme. I would say alternate but Im not sure there are enough of these left to really have a bunch of bone stock low mileage completely stock cars for a new poll every month.

2. I'd avoid going after cars with certain "options"... ie convertibles, T-Tops, Trans Ams, Z28's, LU5, TPI, 16 inch wheels, RS, Berlinetta, etc etc etc etc. That gets you into chasing your tail a lot. Cars with those options will fit in these categories one way or another and get recognition anyway. I think themes should stay far more broad than that.

3. I personally would like to see "road race/autoX", "drag race", and "forced induction" cars. I wouldnt think that would be done often, but I think as an occasional category it'd be nice to see stuff along those lines. I think most months should just be the "tastefully done, high performance street cars" theme. There needs to be writeups on each car to detail the unique things about them, also. You dont necessarily need that with totally factory stock cars, but with "showcar","Race", "street driven" blah blah (Not endorsing any specific categories) themes, just a picture of a car doesnt really tell you much about the level of work and craftsmanship that's been put into it, and that's a deciding factor. Also a "gen 3 swapped, blue camaro, cowl hood, and 6 point roll bar 84 Z28 camaro with 85-90 ground effects and 91-92 Z28 rear spoiler on billet specialties" theme would be pretty cool too.

How we would accomplish that, I dont know. I would presume the nominees would be more than happy to write up a build story on their cars, but they'd have to either submit the writeup/pictures for nomination or they'd have to write everything else out afterwards, and I get the impression some of these people get nominated without even knowing it.

4. Which brings me to my last point, not to knock a "car of the month" type deal, but maybe what we need isnt so much a contest of popularity, but just a "showcase" of very nice thirdgens on the site, maybe they could have their own boards like the "Members [Camaro/Firebird]" board, where people can read on them, see pictures, ask questions etc. Unfortunately no one ever seems to use the vbGarage and it's perfect for that, while the Members Rides boards have just turned into a board full of project car build threads (Not that there's anything wrong with that). But just getting a nice writeup about each car in the nomination/voting process would accomplish this I think.

Unfortunately we cant let the process get too bloated and complicated, and we can't involve the admins due to the fact that they dont seem to want to be bothered about it. So a lot of this stuff maybe difficult or impossible to ever implement, but that's just my thoughts on it. Basically that you can't have "themes" without having someone write a detailed write up on their car. How do you have a "show car" theme without knowing anything about the car other than how it looks? Or a "race car" theme without knowing what's under the hood? It just doesnt work at that point.