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Old Oct 25, 2015 | 01:59 PM
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What is the best wax?

I want to know what everybody uses as a car wax. I'm looking mainly for a liquid wax but will look at some paste too. I need something that will make my car shine and last long.
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 07:36 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

I prefer synthetic products not wax.


Its best to remove any wax that's on the car if your going to try this.
Then nothing with wax in it for the rest of its days.


Using Synthetics. They are extremely "Reflective"
It will give a car a glass like shine.



You can use synthetics products only simply by using two products.
Maguire's Ultimate Paste Wax (it is all synthetic) once every 2 to three months or sooner if you want. The product actually will protect for 3 to 4 months if not longer.I would put two coats on yours to start.
And a synthetic polish once a year to remove the first product. ( Race Glaze is also a synthetic protectant ) Then re apply the Ultimate Paste wax again and your good to go.



I use a California duster in between car washes. No wax in the soap.
No wax at any time.

Just start with the first one and if you don't like it you can put wax on top of it.
Here's the products.


1) http://www.meguiars.com/en/automotiv...ate-wax-paste/
2) http://www.raceglaze.com/polish.html
3) http://www.meguiars.com/en/automotiv...itioner-1-gal/
4) http://www.calcarduster.com/originalduster.asp


My paint is only 9 years old so there's that to consider.
But this is what I mean.
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Old Oct 26, 2015 | 08:36 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

i like mothers liquid wax, works great, and mothers mag/aluminum wheel polish for my iroc wheels, and black magic tire shine or armor all shone spray foam on my tires
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 12:52 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

Adams Polishes waxes are the best in my opinion, but they are kinda high end. I use the Patriot for my 91, and used the Americana for the convertible. Never been able to find a better shine from any of the other brands I have tried, such as Chemical Guys, Blackfire, Prima, etc
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 01:50 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

Ron - Thanks for the education on synthetics, didn't even know there was a difference. What do you recommend to remove old wax?
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 02:17 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

I like BlackFire products and Adams. But use Meguiar's Ultimate Polish quite often.
This picture of my 85 WS6 Original paint, using BlackFire
















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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 02:24 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

Does anybody use Liquid Glass Ultimate Polish? I've been using it more over 20 years and find it gives a great shine. Very easy to put on and take off. A second coat is recommended for a durable finish. You don't see it in many stores these days, but it is still available, especially on-line.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 02:33 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

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Does anybody use Liquid Glass Ultimate Polish? I've been using it more over 20 years and find it gives a great shine. Very easy to put on and take off. A second coat is recommended for a durable finish. You don't see it in many stores these days, but it is still available, especially on-line.

I got it and used it a lot over the years. Its available at Advance Auto for one.

My detail cabinet looks like the detail wall at Advance. I got and try'd everything.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 02:50 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

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I got it and used it a lot over the years. Its available at Advance Auto for one.

My detail cabinet looks like the detail wall at Advance. I got and try'd everything.
Yep, that's the can. Good to see someone else uses/used it.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 04:25 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

I've been using the Maguiars as well. Really brings out a deep shine in this old paint.
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Old Oct 27, 2015 | 06:06 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

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Ron - Thanks for the education on synthetics, didn't even know there was a difference. What do you recommend to remove old wax?
You can use a mild polish by hand using light pressure in small swirls wiping off with a micro fiber towel or ( I will probably get a whipping for suggesting it ) but a very small amount of Dawn Dishwashing Detergent diluted with a 5 gallon bucket of water will also strip the old wax away.


At that point you can apply a "very" thin coat of the = http://www.meguiars.com/en/automotiv...ate-wax-paste/
I use two micro fiber towels, one to remove the product then the next to buff any remainder off. Just shake them out once and a while and your good to go.
First time around, try two coats. (Although its not absolutely necessary).




It's about $23.99 at Walmart (usually a little more at your local auto parts store) but you will get many applications from one can.
I do suggest the paste. It just seems to go farther.
Here's a new photo,

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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 07:28 AM
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Re: What is the best wax?

A little old school, but Simonize (spelling?) is good stuff.

I also like Mother's and Mcguires.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 07:37 AM
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Re: What is the best wax?

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A little old school, but Simonize (spelling?) is good stuff.

I also like Mother's and Mcguires.
Simonize.......I remember WAAAAAAAYYYY back when, my Mom would say."hey Bobby, lets go Simonize the Marquis" (She had a 1974 Mercury Grand Marquis). OMG....TALK ABOUT ACREAGE!!! Then Rain Dance came along. I Loved that stuff!
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 07:43 AM
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Re: What is the best wax?

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Simonize.......I remember WAAAAAAAYYYY back when, my Mom would say."hey Bobby, lets go Simonize the Marquis" (She had a 1974 Mercury Grand Marquis). OMG....TALK ABOUT ACREAGE!!! Then Rain Dance came along. I Loved that stuff!
Ha, just always makes me think of the movie A Christmas Story when they're opening presents - "A can of simonize. . "
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 09:21 AM
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Re: What is the best wax?

I use a carnauba wax called P21S Concourse. Its priced midrange (about 40 dollars). It goes on real easy and is not difficult to remove. Its hard to show depth on white cars, which are my 3rds, but my 4th is dark blue so I'll post that picture.

I suppose car care products are like women though, everyone has their own personal preferences.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 09:39 AM
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Re: What is the best wax?

Nice Depth Kymmee

My 4th is the same blue. I'll need to try P21S Concours on it!
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 04:49 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?



Longest lasting wax I've used. I use it on my daily drivers. For my camaro I use:



Goes on and off like butter. No streaking. Very deep shine.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 07:13 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

I like the Pinnacle Souveran as well. Adams products are good too.
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Old Oct 28, 2015 | 09:12 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

Ron, do you happen to know if your synthetic products contain silicone? I have to avoid all producs with silicone because it causes contaminants at work. As far as I've seen all waxes (the good ones anyways) have silicone :/
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Old Oct 29, 2015 | 01:42 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

Waxes are not a one size fits all situation. Waxes are situational, preferential and circumstantual. This is why every wax on Amazon has wonderful and horrible reviews. Best starting point is to use one of the laser temperature guns and measure the paints surface temperature after it has sat out for two hours. If it's over 125* you can throw away all your carnuaba waxes. Why? Because most will soften and slowly melt away leaving you with no protection or when the wax softens dust and debris gets stuck to it and when the wax cools it becomes trapped in the wax. Lighter colors less frequently in the sun are usually fine for carnuaba but darker colors will easily hit 125*. The black in mine has seen 185*. No insulation on that steel hood of yours, hello 185-200*. Synthetic wax usually has a melting point of 185* but depending on the material used can be much higher. Also don't kid yourself, good paint looks good in cheap old turtle wax and bad paint looks bad in pinnacle wax. If your clear coat is in sub par condition just go to maaco and ask them to do a simple exterior scuff and respray.
I agree with Ron in that Meguiar's or products on the same price point are all you need, anything over is just your donation to the company. Ron's paint looks great because it's just that, good paint! There was a thread on here I think with a member showing a car with its trophies and great paint with his tub of turtle wax on the hood.

Long story short find out your surface temperature, find a product and look up the msds to see what's in it, and find out its properties from there.
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Old Oct 29, 2015 | 05:54 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

Plus 2 on the above post.. Depending on the year and where my car was in the U.S. at the time, I've Used Blue Coral Autofom with Fomblin A, then went to Meguiar's Cleaner Wax, Now using Nu Finish... My original 1986 paint still looks show room new..

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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 09:30 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

There is no "best". It really depends on the effect you want-- like wet look, deep glossy finish, etc. Try some brands of wax and decide which one you like.
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Old Nov 25, 2015 | 10:00 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

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There is no "best". It really depends on the effect you want-- like wet look, deep glossy finish, etc. Try some brands of wax and decide which one you like.
The first four words of your comment is correct. The last part is just brainwashing you have endured from the marketing departments of the wax companies.

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The last part is just brainwashing you have endured from the marketing departments of the wax companies.

Unless I misunderstood what you're trying to say. I disagree. Different products will give you different looks. Zaino vs Pinnacle Souveran is a good example in my opinion. It's personal preference which looks better obviously, but it's two different looks.

The average Joe walking by your car in a parking lot may not tell a difference, but there is a difference. That is as long as your paint isn't garbage in the first place.

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Old Nov 28, 2015 | 06:41 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

Originally Posted by IROCThe5.7L
Unless I misunderstood what you're trying to say. I disagree. Different products will give you different looks. Zaino vs Pinnacle Souveran is a good example in my opinion. It's personal preference which looks better obviously, but it's two different looks.

The average Joe walking by your car in a parking lot may not tell a difference, but there is a difference. That is as long as your paint isn't garbage in the first place.
I don't think you misunderstood me, I just have a deep, but respectful, disagreement with people that believe a certain wax is going to do xyz. Paint looks good because it was well cared for, wet sanded, had quality paint used, multiple layers of clear and the list can go on.
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Old Nov 28, 2015 | 09:42 PM
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Re: What is the best wax?

Originally Posted by ZsTransAm
Ron, do you happen to know if your synthetic products contain silicone? I have to avoid all producs with silicone because it causes contaminants at work. As far as I've seen all waxes (the good ones anyways) have silicone :/

All I can find without actually calling the manufactures is the Meguiar's Ultimate is Automotive Shop safe.


I would have to give them both a call to verify.
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