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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 07:27 AM
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Car: 1983 z-28/SFC/bilsteins/adj.arms
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hey guys! can anybody help tell me how to remove the t-bar? my t-tops leak from the center bar, but i don't want to mangle the weatherstripping which looks pretty good. i've taken off the three visible screws on each side, but i can't budge anything! help!
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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It also has an adhesive pad underneath it. Once the screws are out you'll just need to carefully pry it off.
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 09:47 AM
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There's something like 8 screws under the weatherstripping. That bar's not coming off without at least lifting up the weatherstripping.

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 10:20 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
It is next to impossible to remove the weatherstrip without damaging it. I have tried, and to be honest, I have only gotten about 1/2 of it off before RIP!!!

I am not saying its impossable but...

John

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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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Car: 1983 z-28/SFC/bilsteins/adj.arms
Engine: 355sbc/Demon650dp/hedmanheaders/
Transmission: t-5, alum DS
Axle/Gears: 3.42 torsen posi, baer discs
thanks guys...are the rest of the screws under the weatherstripping? besides the three i see on each side how many are under the rubber? see, i'm sure the damn thing is rusted underneath.. when it rains the water just drips in from the center bar...does siliconing the inside of the "T" help this? or is the water coming in from a seam in the t-bar?
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:21 PM
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I didn't think you could remove it with the headliner in place. Is this the case?
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
The headliner does not need to be removed to get out the black exterior center bar.

MY car would leak after I put in the new seals, and what I did was take some Silicone and seal up between the seal and the t-bar piece. and in the front and rear of the center bar. I no longer have leaks...

John
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Old Jun 10, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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Car: 1983 z-28/SFC/bilsteins/adj.arms
Engine: 355sbc/Demon650dp/hedmanheaders/
Transmission: t-5, alum DS
Axle/Gears: 3.42 torsen posi, baer discs
thanks guys....i'll try the silicone first...just try to seal as much as possible...if it still leaks.i'll take out the t-bar and seal it up from there.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 08:15 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Use some masking tape to keep the silicone off what you want to keep it off...

John
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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You could also try and put some vaseline in the places where you think it is leaking in and if that fixes your leak then go ahead and silicone it.
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
THe Vasiline would probably work, but I have to ask myself, if I was to do this, how would I remove the Vasiline so the Silicone would stick?

John
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Old Jun 11, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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From: Deer Park, N.Y.
Car: 1983 z-28/SFC/bilsteins/adj.arms
Engine: 355sbc/Demon650dp/hedmanheaders/
Transmission: t-5, alum DS
Axle/Gears: 3.42 torsen posi, baer discs
guys...not only are you full of information, but you're entertaining as well! i just want to drive this car without all my **** getting wet on the backseat and the front pass. foot well!...you should see the sponges i've got on the floor...it's sad man.
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