Can interior trim be painted
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Can interior trim be painted
I am trying to get all the interior pieces I need to get my interior looking well. I can't seem to find a rear under hatch panel. My car has a rear wiper and I think that theses were only fitted on earlier third gens. So to find a panel that accommodates a wiper motor is pretty hard. I also need it in tan or Doeskin I think they call it. I am wondering can my original panel be re painted successfully. If so is there a color code for the interior?. Do I need special paint?.
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Any help appreciated,
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I've painted a few of mine because when i changed interior color, i didn't get some panels, so i used the orange panels i alread had and just painted them black. It seems to be pretty temporary, i grabbed about 9 different brands of paint, everything from $0.79 "spray" brand paint to $8.99 paints for interior plastics...i never did get the stuff to stay stuck, any time something brushed against it, the paint came off.
You might try looking at year one or something, places that sell the interior dyes...
You might try looking at year one or something, places that sell the interior dyes...
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Thanks, I will look at the yearone catalogue. Isn't there a special paint for plastic. If you re spray bumbers don't you have to use a type of flexable paint or else it will crack.
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yea, you add a flex agent to the primer and paint your using, but thats a different type of plastic and i dunno if there's a version for the type that the interior panels are made of
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Thanks, I will enquire about this type of paint. If it works the problem will be to get the correct color. There's also the issue of filling the scrapes and scratches on the panel. I have seen bumper filler in the auto stores but don't know how well it will work on this type of plastic.
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Well, I don't know what kind of paint you used that would come off when something brushes against it. I am customizing my interior, and all of the paint I have used has stuck perfectly. And it helps even more if you use Adhesion promotor first, which is in a spray can as well. Krylon fusion paint works wonders, but so does all kinds of spray paint. Also, if you use primers, get filler primer. I have had really good results using filler primer instead of plain primer or etching primer.
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I've painted my complete interior at the start of my interior resto. All I did was take my interior pieces out and clean them before I started. I used regular automotive primer then used an automotive spray paint. You don't need flexible paint for this application because these types of parts don't flex.
I had great results from my method, probably from the prep and the use of a good primer.
Good Luck
I had great results from my method, probably from the prep and the use of a good primer.
Good Luck
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I bought some black krylon fusion paint. I don't like it at all. It doesn't go on smoothly, and it's too glossy. I used some SEM interior paint for my dash project, and after buffing it, got a finish that's identical to the stock black plastic.
When I did my kick panels I used some gray interior paint that I bought at Advance Auto. It was a 100% perfect match and has proven very durable.
When I did my kick panels I used some gray interior paint that I bought at Advance Auto. It was a 100% perfect match and has proven very durable.
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The orginal paint used is no longer. I have crossed referanced the orginal interior paint code for the doeskin interior and went to my local automotive paint supply and got them to mix me up some vinyl dye which is used in todays car and can be mixed to look just like the orginal down to the semigloss apperance. Getting ready to do mine. Will post some picts after it is finished. And this stuff will not rub or scratch off. It will sort of melt into the old interior paint and become stronger once heated up a few time.
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I redid my entire int with grey speaker carpeting and it looks GREAT!! I can't say enough about it. I get nothing but compliments at car shows about it. it is prob also the cheapest way to make your int look like brand new!! I paid less than $20 for the carpteting which was 4 feet wide and 10 feet long with carpet to spare and I think it was about 2 cans of 3M adheisive. great winter project to do in the house and not freeze your but off.
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I would post them but I don't know how to post pics lol. I am one of those guys that doesn't know a damn thing about computers. I do know how to send them through yahoo msgr, thats easy as pie :-) if you want look me up on there, my yahoo I.D. is prostreettransam and then if you know how to post them from there you are more than welcome to. usually I am always invisible so if it looks like I am not on try anyway. I will try to get some pics ready by this wkend, I have to have my wife load them from our camera to the computer.
by the way if you line your int panels with this carpet don't think it forms to the contours of the molding, you have to cut a million pieces(with a razor blade) and basically make a jigsaw puzzle to make it look good. if you really take your time it will turn out great!!!!
by the way if you line your int panels with this carpet don't think it forms to the contours of the molding, you have to cut a million pieces(with a razor blade) and basically make a jigsaw puzzle to make it look good. if you really take your time it will turn out great!!!!
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Thanks for all the replys guys. Let me just try to get it straight, what I need to do is fill the scratches then use filler primer and spray paint it. I can use Krylon Fusion paint or regular automotive paint. I have one question how do I get a paint code for a Doeskin interior.
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If I were you I would go with regular automotive paint. I painted my interior panels with the krylon fusion paint and some parts are already starting to chip off. Also sometimes the fusion paint wont spray correctly and will splatter all over the panel. If regular automotive paint works go with that. It will probably be cheaper than fusion paint too. Fusion cost like $4 a can. Good luck.
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hey I just found out how to post pics on here, I feel like I have finally accomplished something with my computer.
ok this is the pic of my int after I lined the panels with grey speaker carpeting. the pic is bad b/c it looks like it is wavey but in person it doesn't look like that at all. not the brightest pic in the world but you will get the idea.
ok this is the pic of my int after I lined the panels with grey speaker carpeting. the pic is bad b/c it looks like it is wavey but in person it doesn't look like that at all. not the brightest pic in the world but you will get the idea.
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Paint Codes
(flat / semi-gloss):
GM Trim Code:
64BN / 64DN
PPG Ditzler:
24927 / 24908
DuPont Lucite:
C8148 / C8110
Sherwin Williams and Acme-Rogers:
31741 / 31310
Martin Senour:
32-16831 / 32-16792
Inmont:
12817 / 12265
doeskin interior paint codes
(flat / semi-gloss):
GM Trim Code:
64BN / 64DN
PPG Ditzler:
24927 / 24908
DuPont Lucite:
C8148 / C8110
Sherwin Williams and Acme-Rogers:
31741 / 31310
Martin Senour:
32-16831 / 32-16792
Inmont:
12817 / 12265
doeskin interior paint codes
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I decided to have a go at repainting my interior trim. I sanded down the panel under the deck lid. I went to an auto paints store and got a paint match as close as I could and got a spray can of plastics primer/sealer. I was all ready to start but when I read the instructions on the primer can it said not for PP (Polyproplene) plastic which is what the car's interior trim is made from. I called the auto store I got the stuff in and that is the only plastics primer they stock. I searched the net for the correct primer and I have some questions, do I need to get a prep cleaner to clean the panel before I spray prime it?. What is Vinyl Dye, is it paint with an agent to help it stick to plastic?. What is Krylon Fusion Paint, is it special plastics Paint
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Krylon fusion is the way to go. It moleculy bonds to the plastic.
Good stuff from what i hear, not sure on color availability though.
Good stuff from what i hear, not sure on color availability though.
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Originally posted by gholian
I decided to have a go at repainting my interior trim. I sanded down the panel under the deck lid. I went to an auto paints store and got a paint match as close as I could and got a spray can of plastics primer/sealer. I was all ready to start but when I read the instructions on the primer can it said not for PP (Polyproplene) plastic which is what the car's interior trim is made from. I called the auto store I got the stuff in and that is the only plastics primer they stock. I searched the net for the correct primer and I have some questions, do I need to get a prep cleaner to clean the panel before I spray prime it?. What is Vinyl Dye, is it paint with an agent to help it stick to plastic?. What is Krylon Fusion Paint, is it special plastics Paint
I decided to have a go at repainting my interior trim. I sanded down the panel under the deck lid. I went to an auto paints store and got a paint match as close as I could and got a spray can of plastics primer/sealer. I was all ready to start but when I read the instructions on the primer can it said not for PP (Polyproplene) plastic which is what the car's interior trim is made from. I called the auto store I got the stuff in and that is the only plastics primer they stock. I searched the net for the correct primer and I have some questions, do I need to get a prep cleaner to clean the panel before I spray prime it?. What is Vinyl Dye, is it paint with an agent to help it stick to plastic?. What is Krylon Fusion Paint, is it special plastics Paint
I would use the plastic prep.
First clean parts with Simple Green to remove grease then clean with dish soap and rinse well. After dry use Plastic prep. and use vinyl paint.
Painted the interior on a car 6 yrs ago and the interior still looks good.
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Vinyl Dye is a sort of paint. It has to be mixed by a automotive paint store but has great results. I as well have the med doeskin interior color and the dye is a exact match to the orginal paint color used. Just take a look at the interior of a car of today and that is vinyl dye that is used to color the plastic panels. The paint code for med doeskin is 64BN. I am getting my panels done this coming week and will post some picts.
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I have been looking for some plastics primer and paint/vinyl dye. I have tried all the local auto stores here (I live in Ireland) but can't get a plastics primer for Polypropylene (PP), which is what the interior trim is made from. I have been looking to see if I could order it from the US. Has anyone tried a product called SEM?, they make a plastics primer and paint. I guess a Vinyl dye would be the best to use as it would dye the trim as oppossed to paint it. I can't find a vinyl dye that can be used on PP plastics, Does anyone know of a brand name I could look up?.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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my luck???? what does that meen or was that for somebody else??? Marlyn if an automotive paint store would be that easy than don't you think somebody would have said something?? if your such a genius than what automotive paint store would we go to in order to buy these paints Einstien??? think REAL hard before you answer that one now. does Marlyn need 
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Thanks Transam84 for your common sense reply. If that other guy had read my post correctly. I said I tried the auto stores and couldn't get the paint where I live.
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Not saying some of the other listed ways of painting plastic are'nt good, but I spent some real $$$ on SEM products that my body man suggested, since I changed my interior over to 98 Firebird, my existing plastic did not even come close to matching. I needed graphite colored paint. I am lucky enough to have a regular automotive supply store close and found this SEM plastic paint. It was a 3 step process, first I had to wash everything with soap and water, then I had to spray on a SEM de-greaser that helped get rid of the armor-all and mold release agent from the factory molds-this is why alot of you get chipping and flaking, once everything was degreased/dewaxed I applied a SEM product that actually opened the pores of the plastic in preparation for the actual color, while this was still tacky I applied the SEM graphite colored paint. It's been in my car all summer, looks better than factory since it was all new looking again, and after a full season of my harnessees hitting/dragging over the rocker covers I have yet to see any sign of chipping/fadding. Really good stuff, and I think you can do a search online for this SEM product and find the stuff needed to do this job legitamitly. Yes I has over $100 bucks in painting material, but the results easily speak for themselves, sometimes cheap will suffice, but then if you spend the money to do it the "right"way, you won't have problems in the future.
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Not saying some of the other listed ways of painting plastic are'nt good, but I spent some real $$$ on SEM products that my body man suggested, since I changed my interior over to 98 Firebird, my existing plastic did not even come close to matching. I needed graphite colored paint. I am lucky enough to have a regular automotive supply store close and found this SEM plastic paint. It was a 3 step process, first I had to wash everything with soap and water, then I had to spray on a SEM de-greaser that helped get rid of the armor-all and mold release agent from the factory molds-this is why alot of you get chipping and flaking, once everything was degreased/dewaxed I applied a SEM product that actually opened the pores of the plastic in preparation for the actual color, while this was still tacky I applied the SEM graphite colored paint. It's been in my car all summer, looks better than factory since it was all new looking again, and after a full season of my harnessees hitting/dragging over the rocker covers I have yet to see any sign of chipping/fadding. Really good stuff, and I think you can do a search online for this SEM product and find the stuff needed to do this job legitamitly. Yes I has over $100 bucks in painting material, but the results easily speak for themselves, sometimes cheap will suffice, but then if you spend the money to do it the "right"way, you won't have problems in the future.
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you can get flat semi gloss or gloss. I went with the semi gloss finish as that was the orginal paint. since I have no luck attaching pics on other peoples post I will post a pict uder the title of 83 interior redone if you would like to see my project interior
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Originally posted by armac
you can get flat semi gloss or gloss. I went with the semi gloss finish as that was the orginal paint. since I have no luck attaching pics on other peoples post I will post a pict uder the title of 83 interior redone if you would like to see my project interior
you can get flat semi gloss or gloss. I went with the semi gloss finish as that was the orginal paint. since I have no luck attaching pics on other peoples post I will post a pict uder the title of 83 interior redone if you would like to see my project interior
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As you can see there was still alot of crud to be cleaned off after all the fabbing for the interior install, plus having the windows all out during this entire process in the garage, while working on other cars too.
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here's a before shot, not an extreme color difference, but this SEM product can take on white over black, it's that good.
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