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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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plz help me. ?? about my speedo & glow gauges

Well i just did the unthinkable...i broke the speedo needle on the 145 cluster i just bought while trying to install these glow gauges

i do have extra 85 mph speedos, anyway i could swap over the needles and if so plz help me out here!!
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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On the directions I've seen, people are able to pull off the needles, near the base, with a fork. But, even if you do get one off and back on sucessfully, it's going to be hard to line it up perfectly perfect. 'Cept that it's the speedo which stays at zero when not in motion, it will still be a little tough.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Car: 86 "Ram Air" IROC
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um did you not read it dude? i already broke it...telling me how to take it off now isn't gonna help me much...i snapped the tiny little metal pin that conects the needle to the cluster unit..i got the pin out of the needle part but it looks like its broke off too close to the cluster part and i really have no way of taking that part of the pin out...any1 got any suggestions?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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superglue that motherfu%$^r
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Car: 86 "Ram Air" IROC
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the pin is too small, i already tried
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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Car: 86 "Ram Air" IROC
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this REALLY sucks if im unable to repair this, these things are NOT cheap...
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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From what I've read on the boards thats "unrepairable" but that doesnt mean you couldnt figure something out? I would play with your other one and see if you cant get the pin that the needle stick onto to pull out somehow.. just a thought, sorry I'm sure that totally sucks I've been through similar situations
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:46 PM
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Car: 86 "Ram Air" IROC
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Originally posted by grngryoutmyway
From what I've read on the boards thats "unrepairable" but that doesnt mean you couldnt figure something out? I would play with your other one and see if you cant get the pin that the needle stick onto to pull out somehow.. just a thought, sorry I'm sure that totally sucks I've been through similar situations

well aint that a bich...
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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Car: 86 "Ram Air" IROC
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maybe a sawtering (sp?) gun??
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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Hey you said you had extra 85 mph speedo's, I was telling you how to pull it from the '85 without breaking it......
And soldering won't help on plastic

P.S. My speedometer is broke, live like me, dangerously hehe :P
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by KBeez
Hey you said you had extra 85 mph speedo's, I was telling you how to pull it from the '85 without breaking it......
And soldering won't help on plastic

P.S. My speedometer is broke, live like me, dangerously hehe :P
the pin that holds it in is metal smart guy...and why do i want to go back to an 85mph cluster after buying the 145 and the glow gauges?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 11:17 PM
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Are you saying you broke off the needle (plastic) part, or the actual metal part that goes on the shaft? I'm guessing you broke the plastic, right at the start of the needle huh? Well you should be able to pry off the circle of the broken one, pry off the needle of the 85, and put it on the 145. I *think*. And if it's a dual needled '85 then you can break off one of the needles. That's what I did and you can't even tell there was one there.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 11:28 PM
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Originally posted by KBeez
Are you saying you broke off the needle (plastic) part, or the actual metal part that goes on the shaft? I'm guessing you broke the plastic, right at the start of the needle huh? Well you should be able to pry off the circle of the broken one, pry off the needle of the 85, and put it on the 145. I *think*. And if it's a dual needled '85 then you can break off one of the needles. That's what I did and you can't even tell there was one there.
can u not read? i clearly said i broke the METAL PIN that connects the needle to the cluster...
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 11:58 PM
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So wait... is it the plastic or the metal that broke?












LOL... you need to relax man. No need to get mad at everyone.

Personally, I think you're pretty much out of luck unless you can find just the speedometer unit itself somewhere instead of the whole cluster.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 12:09 AM
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 07:52 AM
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It could be worse. At least you can drive the car. *Looks at my RS with bent pushrod*
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by irocz eric
the pin that holds it in is metal smart guy...and why do i want to go back to an 85mph cluster after buying the 145 and the glow gauges?
A long time ago i bought a 145 speedo in the same condition.What i did i cut a small(about 1/16) piece of plastic ext tube(red ones) from the brake cleaner cans.I inserted the tube on the pin(speedo)w/some crazy glue.Then put the needle back on as close to the original spot as possible(about 1/4in past 0 ).BUT any weight you add to the rotating assembly WILL decalibrate the speedo somewhat.Even as small as 1/16.Plastic at least is lighter that metal,but if you cant find a plastic tube.perhaps small dia brass tubing.It just has to barley fit over the pin so it wont slip.Worked for me.I even sold the speedo this way eventually.

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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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Originally posted by 84 1LE
A long time ago i bought a 145 speedo in the same condition.What i did i cut a small(about 1/16) piece of plastic ext tube(red ones) from the brake cleaner cans.I inserted the tube on the pin(speedo)w/some crazy glue.Then put the needle back on as close to the original spot as possible(about 1/4in past 0 ).BUT any weight you add to the rotating assembly WILL decalibrate the speedo somewhat.Even as small as 1/16.Plastic at least is lighter that metal,but if you cant find a plastic tube.perhaps small dia brass tubing.It just has to barley fit over the pin so it wont slip.Worked for me.I even sold the speedo this way eventually.
Good idea, you might want to consider some of that shrink wrap tubing a few layers of that should hold it in place nice n tight
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by grngryoutmyway
Good idea, you might want to consider some of that shrink wrap tubing a few layers of that should hold it in place nice n tight
I think crazy glue would be better(lighter & hold better).Too much shrink tubing will just add more weight.That will slow the rotaing assembly causing a lower indicated speed.
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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Don't the 145 speedo and 110 speedo have the same needles????

If so, just buy a dirt cheap 110 speedo and do it that way.......
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
Don't the 145 speedo and 110 speedo have the same needles????

If so, just buy a dirt cheap 110 speedo and do it that way.......
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 06:25 AM
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Try and fin da speedometer repair shop, im sure there is one somewhere. like the places that can roll the milage and give you correct papers on it, im sure places like that could probably fix it.
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