Title says it all. I'm gonna be doing the targa top mod and I need to know what's stronger for reinforcing the body against flex/ stress. .

What do you guys think?

 

Both!

 

 

:rockon:

 

Well, i think you have your answer! keep me posted on that cause im wantin to do the same to my Z here soon when i have the money!

 

I have to agree with both, as well. I remember seeing TPI383s in-progress pics of his targa top and if I remember right he said that the car needed subframe connectors and at least a 6 or 8-point roll cage.

 

both, i've got spohn sub-frames and 8 point cage with a cross brace. love it! :hail: if you don't mind the door bars, go for it

 

im gonn have pinned door bars so they will swing open with the door instea dof me having to climb over it every time lol.

If you could only choose one what would it be .

 

i'd go with the cage, but the sub-frames help tie in the cage and make it stronger (go for both! )

why are you limiting yourself to only one anyway?

 

you have to do subframes before a cage. you can't do a cage then subframes.

 

 

What HE said !!

 

i did both and look at me now.

not even jarod from subway has anything on me.

 

The only right way to do what your wanting to do is to use both. try sending TPI383 an e-mail and see what he might suggest do. If you do a for targa top, you can find TPI383 threads on how he did his. that may help

 

who me??.....

I had SFC's 1st then decided to do the targa top. when I cut the bar out. You could Deff. tell a Diff. I'd have to say soon as I took it out. The Z Felt just as much flex as my Vert. maybe a little worse. and that was with weld in SFC's You could Tell for sure it was weaker.

If your gonna take any advice DO NOT do the targa with out a Cage. I didn't drive the Z with just SFC/TARGA and I know if it was you would still twist the hell out of it with the top out.

6point MIN. and SFC's Personally go 8point SFC's and more braces if you have the fab skills. Like Unibody to SFC's etc.

Dint plan to use your backs seats if you put a cage in. I did some measuring for someone who wanted to see if his kids could still fit. You only have like 12inches between the middle bar the rear seat. Mine are useless anyways just for looks.

This is by no means a Daily Driver. I'm building it to show and Go. More on my CE Coatings business and fab stuff.
Single Turbo Stroker,. Mini Tubbed, Targa Top, Everything will be ceramic, thermal and powder coated. A rolling business card for at the track and shows so to say.

Hope this help. If not ask away..

 

I knew you would chime in soon, but dang that was fast!

 

hehe.... funny I clicked this link hoping to see other cage pic's.

Ya I get home from work in the Am and surf for awhile. Im headed out to the garage now to work on the mini tubbs more. Then make a drive to summit racing to pick up some parts

 

car got wrecked yesterday waiting to see if insurance is gonna call it a total. Seeing as how it has no front nose. and no fender i am pretty sure of the results.

 

You've got to be kidding!

 

can't say I am.

 

What happened??

 

Im curious.... how come you have to put subframes in FIRST and THEN a rollcage???

Dan

 

because the car is like a wet noodle. you can put in the cage but can't stop the front half and back half from twisting. there's not real frame underneath and you need to tie up the subframes first. then the cage can be welded up to the frame ties.

 

I was looking for a better answer than what i got above.

I wanted to put the cage in before the sub frames because i could do it on the ground, knowing i had a level surface and then from there i could put in the SFCs by getting the car in the air as level as possible.

I was thinking that SFCs, installed without a lift, even with a really good attempt at levelness might come out badly... I figured the cage would strengthen the body enough that installing the SFCs wouldn't be such a big deal

Is it really not possible to do the cage before the SFCs?

anyone?

 

and why do you doubt what i've said when other people agree with me? if you already made up your mind that you are going to do things "your way" then why ask it? I try to offer some advice, and you're going to shoot it down? put the subframes on, then the cage you can do both on level ground in your garage/driveway wherever.

 

you only became defensive and didn't answer the question. Why do you need to do it in that order?

I explained my original plan before stumbling on the post above that says "sub frames first, cage later." and now i want to know the reasoning behind the statement. Saying that the car is a wet noodle, although true, doesn't explain why one needs to be done before the other.

before reading that post i had thought...
installing the cage on level ground with the car just sitting on the ground would be easy and stiffen the chassis up a lot. I could then raise the car up in the air and install the SFCs knowing that putting it in the air wouldn't cause too much hassle in terms of flex because of the added stiffness gained from the cage. I AM NOT saying I'm right, I just want to know why I'm wrong.

I didn't mean to stir you up man, i apologize.

Does the cage actually get welded to the subframe connectors then? because i haven't bought mine yet and am unsure where it will end up... as far as i know, it just gets welded to the plates on the floor above the subframes

 

(pics that are above) does the roll cage come all in one piece or in many pieces that you have to weld? Anyone got a pic of spohn * point cage that is chrome? Id love to see them.

Thanks for your reply

 

typo error

 

talk about old post.

cages come in many pieces that have to be notched/fited and welded in.