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Old Aug 26, 2001 | 05:10 PM
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Armoral gone bad???

I heard from alot of people that Armoral makes your dash crack really bad.. is this true? And if so, what is the best to shine my baby's insides up with?

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Old Aug 26, 2001 | 05:37 PM
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I too have heard that rumor, and 3 Iroc`s later i am yet to see it happen....

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Old Aug 26, 2001 | 05:58 PM
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Yea, there's alcohol or something in the Armoral that causes plastic and vinyl to dry out. The only cure is to keep using it, which is a nice way to get someone to keep buying it lol.


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Old Aug 26, 2001 | 07:52 PM
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I just painted mine a nice deep glossy black, I'll never need armorall again
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Old Aug 26, 2001 | 08:48 PM
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I painted mine too, and haven't had any problems. It just needs an occasional dusting, but looks better than a "wet" dash.
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Old Aug 26, 2001 | 09:46 PM
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I agree. Painted mine and the console and dash/instrument bezel. I've got no need for Armoral because I use Professional Black Magic on my tires.

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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 05:54 PM
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I just bought a brand new dash, but im just worried it will go to snit like my last one... and the console is looking pretty bad... can i just spray some truckbed lining over it and get the same effect for cheaper? im a broke woman...

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Old Aug 27, 2001 | 08:38 PM
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You guys should use that Formula 500 or some crap like that instead of armor all...The Dashes crack after awhile big whoop.........

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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 01:07 AM
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I spent 200 on a NEW dash 2 days later it started to friggin crack so now i have a small crak pisses me off too. Also the day i noticed the crack i had 2 lightes explode on my seat oh how fun that day was.
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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 08:02 AM
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There is a VERY reputible interior place here in Flint, they are called Schultz interiors. Or something like that, anyway, when I had a vynal top done on my daily driver, I asked them about Armoral, They said to keep that stuff OFF everything but the tires. They suggested Son-Of-A-Gun by STP. I don't have any problems with it. Been using it for a few years. That is JUST MY experience.

I also talked to another interior place here in Flint, and they essentially said the same thing.

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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 12:50 PM
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I used some armorall.. now i have a nice crack right in front of the driver.. i didnt think i needed to replace it right away and my crack grew...!

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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 02:04 PM
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i got a trick for you. Use Eagle One Wet Tire Shine on your dash. Gives a great shine and won't dry the dash out.

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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 06:24 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CamaroChick:
I just bought a brand new dash, but im just worried it will go to snit like my last one... and the console is looking pretty bad... can i just spray some truckbed lining over it and get the same effect for cheaper? im a broke woman...

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It's not that pricy, you're lookin at $3-4 for a can of the interior paint(duplicolor or about 8 for a can of SEM, the good stuff), $10 for a bottle of plastic prep and $8 for a can of adhesion promoter(that's the key to lasting quality) then follow these steps:
1. Wash the piece thouroughly and let dry
2. Spray with plastic prep and remove
3. Spray with adhesion promoter and let dry.
4. Apply interior paint in light, even coats letting it dry between coats.

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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 08:50 PM
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Son Of A Gun by STP is the way to go. It has sunscreens in it. I have been using it for years and never had a problem.
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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 09:41 PM
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uh oh....i just totally armoralld everything.... seams, yadi, yadi....

dmn, used it all over, ive never had probs either.....

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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 11:04 PM
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I've never had a problem with it in all the years I've used it, this is just a stupid urban legend. No factual evidence to back it up. Its a rumor, just a myth

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Old Aug 28, 2001 | 11:10 PM
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hey blue meanie, where do you find that interior paint and prep, ive been looking all around town for that stuff i could really use it.

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Old Aug 29, 2001 | 12:19 AM
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I WON'T use Armorall or Maguires or anything else on my dash because they let of a gas of some sort that locks on the windshield in a film-like way. I hate it! I have to clean the inside of my windshield about every 3 days because of that stuff!

Anybody know a brand that doesn't do that to you?

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Old Aug 29, 2001 | 11:42 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by z28onTweenkies:
hey blue meanie, where do you find that interior paint and prep, ive been looking all around town for that stuff i could really use it.

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Iused duplicolor, you can find it anywhere from wal-mart to autozone, the SEM plastic prep, SEM interior paint and Klean-Strip's Bulldog Adhesion Promoter willl probably only be found at an automotive paint supply store. Check your yellowpages and call around. The SEM products as well as Bulldog are used extensively by professionals so my guess is someone in your area will carry them. If you can't find the plastic prep, try just using rubbing alcohol, but don' tlet it evaporate on the surface, wipe it on, then quickly wipe it off.
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Old Aug 29, 2001 | 06:48 PM
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Thanks you guys... i really need to do my interior, i cant disgrace a camaro by having it look worn... dont you just hate it when you pass a 'maro or bird and see a few hundered dents, peeling paint, etc?!?!

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Old Aug 29, 2001 | 11:16 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Sitting Bull:
I WON'T use Armorall or Maguires or anything else on my dash because they let of a gas of some sort that locks on the windshield in a film-like way. I hate it! I have to clean the inside of my windshield about every 3 days because of that stuff!

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Is that what causes that filmy stuff on the windshield??? I thought that was from dust or something. Anyways I use 2001 Polish (the stuff in the neon green bottle) Works great, but I noticed Black Magic Tire shine works really well too.


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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 02:18 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CamaroChick:
Thanks you guys... i really need to do my interior, i cant disgrace a camaro by having it look worn... dont you just hate it when you pass a 'maro or bird and see a few hundered dents, peeling paint, etc?!?!

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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 10:08 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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The filmy stuff that you get on the inside of your windows is usually caused by a few things. Smoking is the most obvious, since I dont smoke, it doed not contribute to my windshield scum. probably one thing at alot of people seem to overlook is any time you have a vynal, leather, or cloth, they each give off fumes that seem to cling to the windshield & other windows.

The leathers are not as bad, but all the plastics, vynals and cloths in your interior give off something. It is like they are slowly evaporating. That is why new plastics that are plyable, and flexible, slowly become brittle. Each of our cars uses alot of plastic in the interior, and to be honest, most of our plastic pieces will be so brittle and broken up that we will have a heck of a time to find good ones in the junk yards.

When I started only a few years ago, it seemed like finding good parts was not that difficult. The pickins are getting slimmer and slimmer for nice parts in the salvage yards.

The proces has a few names, "half life" is one of them. That is why our dshes crack, it is just the nature of things, and it is also the cause of the film on the windhsield.

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Old Aug 30, 2001 | 11:40 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CamaroChick:
Thanks you guys... i really need to do my interior, i cant disgrace a camaro by having it look worn... dont you just hate it when you pass a 'maro or bird and see a few hundered dents, peeling paint, etc?!?!

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hey now, im driving my car around right now all sanded down and a few patches of bondo to fix some little dents until i get it painted, but its not a disgrace. it may look like sh*t for now, but it runs like hell
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Old Aug 31, 2001 | 07:26 AM
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Treatments dont do much to keep the dash from cracking. Use a sunshade, park in shaded areas when possible, park in a garage, etc.. Armorall tends to work much better if you use it as it was designed.
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Old Sep 2, 2001 | 11:44 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by u r sofa king we tah did:
hey now, im driving my car around right now all sanded down and a few patches of bondo to fix some little dents until i get it painted, but its not a disgrace. it may look like sh*t for now, but it runs like hell </font>
Ain't nothing wrong with bondo... sh*t its almost as great an invention as duct tape!! im in the deep pits of Jaw-jah... (GA) and i dont think there is a car around here without a spot of ducttape or bondo on it somewhere!

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Old Sep 2, 2001 | 10:17 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CamaroChick:
Ain't nothing wrong with bondo... sh*t its almost as great an invention as duct tape!! im in the deep pits of Jaw-jah... (GA) and i dont think there is a car around here without a spot of ducttape or bondo on it somewhere!

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Hey, don't forget about the zip ties!

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Old Sep 3, 2001 | 12:39 PM
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ohh child i KNOW i didnt forget the zipties..

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Old Sep 3, 2001 | 01:08 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
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Just an FYI, cars come from the factory with bondo in them. My father used to work for Buick, and he remembers guys on the line that would be all they did. Bump and paint. Granted most of it was just minor stuff from manufacturing.

A good bondo job will take an ordinary Camaro or Firebird and make it look perfect. Let me be the first to tell you that all those show cars that have that mirror finish have bondo or glazing puddy in them NO car comes off the line perfect, Bondo & a little primer, paint & alot of work can make a car "appear" perfect.

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Old Sep 3, 2001 | 09:28 PM
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I'm on my 3rd thirdgen and I can honestly say that in the sun Armorall is crap. It would always need to be done every week at least. If I didn't keep up the dash turns to a very light white/grey.
I CAN say that the STP Son-of-a-gun stuff WORKS. I bought a little bottle over a year ago and have had to use it maybe once ever couple months just because of dust.
These are the only 2 products I've tried and I can honestly say that the STP stuff wins hands down!

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Old Sep 13, 2001 | 11:05 PM
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I use Turtle Wax Tire Wax on my dash and am very happy with the results. However, if you use it on your tires (which I do) it will not make them super shiny (which I guess alot of people like).
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