pull-down latch question
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Car: 88 Sport Coupe Camaro
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pull-down latch question
My pull-down latch on my 88 seems to move up and down just fine.
The problem is that sometimes it "lets go" during the pull down.
The mechanism clearly engages the "hook" on the hatch, and it pulls it down snug, and just when it reaches the bottom of the movement, I hear "click" sound. When this happens, I can grab the hatch and lift it without any resistance from the pull-down mechanism. Clearly the pull-down is letting go of the hatch right at the bottom of the movement. When I then lift the hatch, the latch is in the open position. Sometimes I have to go through "the routine" of it doing this several times until it finally holds-on to the hatch.
Any ideas what may be going on here?
Maybe the pull-down mechanism just on its way out?
Smart time/money on the notion of just replacing it?
BTW, my hatch struts are pretty kaput - only work (sort of) on hot days. Cool days, the struts won't even hold the hatch up for a moment. So, I don't think the hatch struts are fighting the pull-down motor.
The problem is that sometimes it "lets go" during the pull down.
The mechanism clearly engages the "hook" on the hatch, and it pulls it down snug, and just when it reaches the bottom of the movement, I hear "click" sound. When this happens, I can grab the hatch and lift it without any resistance from the pull-down mechanism. Clearly the pull-down is letting go of the hatch right at the bottom of the movement. When I then lift the hatch, the latch is in the open position. Sometimes I have to go through "the routine" of it doing this several times until it finally holds-on to the hatch.
Any ideas what may be going on here?
Maybe the pull-down mechanism just on its way out?
Smart time/money on the notion of just replacing it?
BTW, my hatch struts are pretty kaput - only work (sort of) on hot days. Cool days, the struts won't even hold the hatch up for a moment. So, I don't think the hatch struts are fighting the pull-down motor.
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Car: '87 IROC
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Re: pull-down latch question
I could see this or maybe the latch isn't engaging enough due to dirt or build-up. My commute used to involve a lot of unpaved roads back when I had my '85 Z28. The dirt would get into the hatch latch and it would take 3-4 times to get it to stay closed. However that car didn't have the automatic hatch pull down though.
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Re: pull-down latch question
Thanks for the replies.
It seems to pull-down really snug, and then at the very end I hear the click sound.
There is no visual indication that the latch has disengaged, or that the hatch has popped-up. But, if I just grab the hatch, it opens right up if the "click" has happened.
There doesn't seem to be any difference if I "help" the hatch down during the pull-down.
It seems to pull-down really snug, and then at the very end I hear the click sound.
There is no visual indication that the latch has disengaged, or that the hatch has popped-up. But, if I just grab the hatch, it opens right up if the "click" has happened.
There doesn't seem to be any difference if I "help" the hatch down during the pull-down.
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From: Clarksville,TN
Car: 1989 GTA
Engine: 5.7 w/Paxton
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27
Re: pull-down latch question
Try adjusting the hatch bumpers on each side inwards so it can go down further THEN give it a some additional pressure and it might catch the next tooth.
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Car: 90 RS 'Vert, 88 IROC-Z, 88 Firebird
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Re: pull-down latch question
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From: Hacienda Heights, CA
Car: 90 RS 'Vert, 88 IROC-Z, 88 Firebird
Engine: 305 ci tbi, 305 ci tpi, 350 ci tpi
Transmission: WC-T5, WC-T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.45, 3.27, 3.27
Re: pull-down latch question
I could see this or maybe the latch isn't engaging enough due to dirt or build-up. My commute used to involve a lot of unpaved roads back when I had my '85 Z28. The dirt would get into the hatch latch and it would take 3-4 times to get it to stay closed. However that car didn't have the automatic hatch pull down though.
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From: Hacienda Heights, CA
Car: 90 RS 'Vert, 88 IROC-Z, 88 Firebird
Engine: 305 ci tbi, 305 ci tpi, 350 ci tpi
Transmission: WC-T5, WC-T5, 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.45, 3.27, 3.27
Re: pull-down latch question
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From: Clarksville,TN
Car: 1989 GTA
Engine: 5.7 w/Paxton
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.27
Re: pull-down latch question
I have seen a gear that was evenly shaved all the way around evenly. Sure seems like something with that ring gear to me. If a tooth was in fact missing on the ring gear the pinion gear will continue to run in place and the hatch motor will no longer pull down. However, in this case the motor would continue to run if the down cycle was incomplete as the switch would not stop the reversing/pull-down operation. I don't think dirt build-up would be the problem, harrison's experiences was with a manual hatch he said. Maybe, a big maybe, something (a screw) has simply fallen onto the top of the pulldown arm and is blocking it from going down....? Kerosene is a good cleaner. Checkout the second photo in my pictures here and you can get an idea of how these things work. After cleaning lube with white lithium from permatex. Hope this helps.
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Re: pull-down latch question
I really appreciate the replies.
The '88 is getting some make-it-pass-inspection work at the moment.
I'm looking forward to doing surgery on the pull-down motor as soon as the more-urgent matters are resolved.
I'll try to do a vid to show what its doing with a little more clarity.
The '88 is getting some make-it-pass-inspection work at the moment.
I'm looking forward to doing surgery on the pull-down motor as soon as the more-urgent matters are resolved.
I'll try to do a vid to show what its doing with a little more clarity.
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