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Old Sep 24, 2020 | 05:47 PM
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HOOD INSERT and opening issue

Does anyone know if my 1992 Firebird formula with power bulge hood has a insert in the bulge area? Is. there supposed to be some mesh or Finns there? Also I have the hardest time getting the hood open. It won't unlatch. Is that my hood shocks or Spring?
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Old Sep 24, 2020 | 10:01 PM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

Should be blocked off in that year I believe, the 82-84 HO cars actually had a functioning formula hood to pull in cold air etc. but no other years have that from factory. Saw a guy on YouTube actually add that system to his 91 or 92 Formula to make it functional, claimed a nice gain and it bolted right in.

For the hood not opening correctly does the hood stay open on its own or do you have to hold it up when it does open? If it stays up then the hood struts are good. Could also be your hood latch is gummed up ( mine was filthy and stuck occasionally) or the cable needs adjusted or latch wore out. Not a bad idea to have a buddy pull on the release while you watch the latch and see what it does.
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Old Sep 24, 2020 | 11:05 PM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

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Does anyone know if my 1992 Firebird formula with power bulge hood has a insert in the bulge area? Is. there supposed to be some mesh or Finns there? Also I have the hardest time getting the hood open. It won't unlatch. Is that my hood shocks or Spring?
When they re-introduced this hood they had a sheet metal black blocking plate, I still have mine. I removed it years ago to allow the engine compartment to breath more. And yes, in the 82 to 84 bird with this hood there was mesh version, I had ordered one back in 89 for my car when I bought it. I cut into it and placed 3 auto-meter 2 1//8" gauges in it. Many thirdgen owners back then thought it was cool. Which if memory serves I got the idea from a Pontiac magazine which I subscribed to. I would read it cover to cover several times.

I would love to get another mesh one and I may end up making one some day. As for additional gauges, I have a 3 pod housing for the internal drivers side post this time.

Replace the spring as well as the shocks and clean the release lock. I did that and mine works like new.

here is a pic of the solid plate



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Old Sep 25, 2020 | 06:47 PM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

Originally Posted by Reddragon88gta
Should be blocked off in that year I believe, the 82-84 HO cars actually had a functioning formula hood to pull in cold air etc. but no other years have that from factory. Saw a guy on YouTube actually add that system to his 91 or 92 Formula to make it functional, claimed a nice gain and it bolted right in.

For the hood not opening correctly does the hood stay open on its own or do you have to hold it up when it does open? If it stays up then the hood struts are good. Could also be your hood latch is gummed up ( mine was filthy and stuck occasionally) or the cable needs adjusted or latch wore out. Not a bad idea to have a buddy pull on the release while you watch the latch and see what it does.

Mine is blocked off but its not painted and it looks like it should have something there. As for the hood the shocks hold the hood up. I had a shop clean and grease the latch when they did some work on the car. Still it only opens when it wants to! LOL! I am going to look into the functional hood I would love that! Thank you 11
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Old Sep 25, 2020 | 06:49 PM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

I would love to find a mesh grill for it or even add the functional hood like the previous comment
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Old Sep 25, 2020 | 07:45 PM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

I was tinkering with making a functional CAI for these cars using the bulge hood and TPI. Would take some fabrication of parts but it’s 100% doable
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 02:48 AM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

Firebird hoods are interchangeable from 82 to 92. Early Trans Ams have the asymmetrical cowl induction hood with a mesh screen in the opening. Later on the Formula was introduced with the same asymmetrical hood but the cowl is blocked off and non-functional.

I bought an early Trans Am hood from a junkyard in the desert out west. Underestimated the money it would take to paint match to my car. The hood still sits in my basement.

Now I see Hawks is going to have a carbon fiber hood. That seems more sensible to drop some money on than a stock hood when considering the potential weight reduction.

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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 07:10 AM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

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I was tinkering with making a functional CAI for these cars using the bulge hood and TPI. Would take some fabrication of parts but it’s 100% doable
shoot some grease in the hinges as well. Big improvement in opening my hood
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 09:32 AM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

Originally Posted by QwkTrip
Firebird hoods are interchangeable from 82 to 92. Early Trans Ams have the asymmetrical cowl induction hood with a mesh screen in the opening. Later on the Formula was introduced with the same asymmetrical hood but the cowl is blocked off and non-functional.

I bought an early Trans Am hood from a junkyard in the desert out west. Underestimated the money it would take to paint match to my car. The hood still sits in my basement.

Now I see Hawks is going to have a carbon fiber hood. That seems more sensible to drop some money on than a stock hood when considering the potential weight reduction.
I was thinking of a carbon fiber hood as well. And you are correct the cost of paint is out of control!! People have no clue what it costs to paint a car. You are looking at minimum of 8-10K for a paint job and thats just a bare bones no frills paint job.
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 09:45 AM
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Patina is the only way to go 😂
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 11:56 AM
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LOL! Richard Rawlings lazy *** clear coat special.
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 12:04 PM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

Originally Posted by QwkTrip
Firebird hoods are interchangeable from 82 to 92. Early Trans Ams have the asymmetrical cowl induction hood with a mesh screen in the opening. Later on the Formula was introduced with the same asymmetrical hood but the cowl is blocked off and non-functional.

I bought an early Trans Am hood from a junkyard in the desert out west. Underestimated the money it would take to paint match to my car. The hood still sits in my basement.

Now I see Hawks is going to have a carbon fiber hood. That seems more sensible to drop some money on than a stock hood when considering the potential weight reduction.
that hood is expensive! ! ! But man it looks killer.
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 12:14 PM
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that hood is expensive! ! ! But man it looks killer.
Where are you guys seeing the price? All I knew is they were working on one.
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 01:53 PM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

Originally Posted by Hawkeye1980
When they re-introduced this hood they had a sheet metal black blocking plate, I still have mine. I removed it years ago to allow the engine compartment to breath more. And yes, in the 82 to 84 bird with this hood there was mesh version, I had ordered one back in 89 for my car when I bought it. I cut into it and placed 3 auto-meter 2 1//8" gauges in it. Many thirdgen owners back then thought it was cool. Which if memory serves I got the idea from a Pontiac magazine which I subscribed to. I would read it cover to cover several times.

I would love to get another mesh one and I may end up making one some day. As for additional gauges, I have a 3 pod housing for the internal drivers side post this time.

Replace the spring as well as the shocks and clean the release lock. I did that and mine works like new.

here is a pic of the solid plate


Buy mesh at a carpart shop or something like that. Put she solid insert on it, use scissors to cut the mesh in the same shape as the insert. Done. Easy.....
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 02:00 PM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

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Where are you guys seeing the price? All I knew is they were working on one.
Was on Facebook in the comments or the video, might be on IG too
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 08:14 PM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

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Where are you guys seeing the price? All I knew is they were working on one.
It's on FB and instagram. I've seen 3,200 to 3,900 plus shipping.
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 08:23 AM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

Have you tried pulling on different areas of the hood to get it to open? The hood on my '91 RS doesn't pop up when you pull the release like it's supposed to, and won't open if you try lifting it up from the driver's side, but always opens if you try lifting it from the passenger's side for some reason (after pulling on the release of course). I've tried lubing the latch and hinges, replacing the spring, and adjusting the spring, but nothing seems to help. Only thing I can figure is my release cable is stretched, and apparently they're a nightmare to replace.
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Old Sep 29, 2020 | 08:33 AM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

I have bump mine from the rear drivers side near the windshield. It's annoying
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Old Mar 28, 2021 | 09:27 PM
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Re: HOOD INSERT and opening issue

Originally Posted by Hawkeye1980
shoot some grease in the hinges as well. Big improvement in opening my hood
A few shots of WD40 silicon and it opens like new! Thank you! ( A shop that changed the oil said they did that already)
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