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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 02:59 AM
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Ground Effects Package vs. None

Well, I know I'm gonna be in the minority on this one but does anyone else prefer the look of a Camaro without the ground effects package? I think that they can actually look better than the fancied up models. Anyone, anyone?
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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 08:42 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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personally I always have preferred the Camaro WITH the GFX, and the firebird without(I like 91-92 tho), I dunno why...

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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 09:15 AM
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Looks much cleaner without if you ask me
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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 09:18 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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That is exactly the reason I do not prefer the T/A's over Firebirds, they seem so overdone with the GFX, I don't mind it, don't get me wrong, I do not think they look bad. If there was an equally equiped Formula and a T/A sitting next to each other I would take the Formula, because I like the absence of the GFX..

I guess thats why GM made different models, for different folks...

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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 10:16 AM
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I don't want to rip on anybody, but If a camaro doesn't have ground effects it will look like a berlinetta. Sorry but I dont like the way those look.
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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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the whole reason my final decision was made when purchasing a 3rdgen, 4thgen's don't have the style and neither do the irocs. not that i don't like either. again, i guess it's all in the eye of the beholder........but i tend to think it looks good.
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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 09:04 PM
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defiantly with them
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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 09:05 PM
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whats wrong with IROCs?
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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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yea, what about the IROC's? ? ?
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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 09:49 PM
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IROC'S are a step above Z-28's and came with everything and more than regular Z's.

:hail:IROC-Z :hail:IROC-Z :hail:IROC-Z :hail:IROC-Z !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW, GFX are the icing on the cake.
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Old Mar 8, 2002 | 11:36 PM
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I definitely like Camaros better WITH gfx. The Firebird looks good either way .
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 02:56 AM
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With.... they look hidious without ground fx.
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 07:30 PM
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Defentaily with gfx. That was one of the main reasons why I dicided to put gfx's on my 85 SC.
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Old Mar 9, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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This is a pic of my car with out ground effect and i think it looks better with out. Iwas thinking about puting 84 ground effects but i like this better what do you think
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 05:39 AM
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3rd gen camaros look ALOT better w/ gfx.. IMO the 91-92 gfx look better than the 85-90 gfx.. kinda off topic, but the 4th gens look like $hit w/ gfx..

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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 12:47 PM
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82-84 Without
85-up, with.
Firebird 82-83 none had gfx
Firebird 84-90 with
Firebird 91-92 without
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Old Mar 10, 2002 | 01:45 PM
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I wouldn't want one without em. They just look like they're missing something. They look like those cheap camaro ber... things. Yeah their a pain to work around, and add an extra complication to body work, but in the end they really spice things up.
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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A camaro without a body kit is like a **** star having no sex. Its just not right O_o haha...I love the look with the body kit...just cant stand it without one. The camaro is a very logn car...to long atcually...the body kit helps the car look taller and also more dropped. Also wider. By making it look wider and taller the car looks shorter.
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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Even though mine's a hunk of crap.. I like it better w/o...


(click for larger pic)

I think this is mike86's, I was bored & did a quick hack on in. The 91-92 wheels are (IMO) what makes them look good w/o fx
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 04:47 PM
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Yup, that's my car. I like those wheels on it.
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 06:59 PM
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Not trying to strike a nerve with someone, but IMO (which probubly means nothing), thirdgens WITHOUT gfx's looks like @$$. They look like a 4x4 or something way in the air.


Just my $0.02 :lala:
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by deadbird
Even though mine's a hunk of crap.. I like it better w/o...


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IMO, all you need is some 91-92 gfx and youd be set, that color is by far the best on a thirdgen, just a thought for ya...

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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 09:56 PM
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Is that gun metal?
:hail:IROC-Z
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 10:02 PM
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looks like medium grey, which is slightly lighter than gunmetal
(AT LEAST I THINK SO?)
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 10:06 PM
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I don't care for camaros without GFX. :lala: I dont think there nasty, but gfx makes them look way better.
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Old Mar 12, 2002 | 10:23 PM
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My beater Camaro is Gunmetal Grey straight out of the Duplicolor can ($35 worth). The back bumper is off a grey 84 Berlinetta.

Stuart.. I do think the 91-92 fx are some of the best looking made but, I personally wouldn't want them and, it would take waaay more than gfx for that pile of ___ to 'be set'.

Gfx to me is sort of like black paint... it's nice to look at but, I don't care to own it (my bird used to be black so I know..). I'm starting to wish I had never put the gfx on my 'bird and just went with a 91-92 front... it's little late to change my mind now though
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 01:41 AM
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Does anybody else think that Camarofreak85s car looks pretty cool with a black sailpanel ala the newer Z28s? I kinda like that.

On the original question: I could care less. A Camaro is a Camaro is a Camaro. They all have potential to look good whether or not they have a particular appearance package or color or driveline in them. If they're taken care of and the owner obviously cares for and has put a lot of work into it, it's a 10 in my book. If someone just has money and has forked out a lot of it to have all the work done or just buys a finished car then shows it as "his own", I don't have an inkling of respect for that.
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 05:33 AM
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I personally like Camaros and birds with ground effects. Iroc-Zs are the coolest looking car on the road. I'm thinking of putting ground effects on my sc in the future.
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 08:44 AM
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i like both actually...

i personally think my roomate's (cdartz on here) car looks kickass



but i also dig the gfx as well. My iroc has them and i wouldn't have it any other way

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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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Transmission: 700R4, M5
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Wraith,
I think I really like the top Camaro with no GFX and the 16" wheels. looks really good...

John
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 02:40 PM
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deadbird,

1.) You need to fix the link to your site, delete the thirdgen part

2.) Once I got to you site, I found that you are Putting Handles on from An Intepid, i wanted to do just that (Either Intipedid or Malibu Handles, cant decide which, only ones Ive seen so far that look good and are flush like I want)

3.) Lovin the Tans Am, your camaro doesn't even compare, no wonder your talking down on it
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Old Mar 13, 2002 | 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by IntimidatorSC
I personally like Camaros and birds with ground effects. Iroc-Zs are the coolest looking car on the road. I'm thinking of putting ground effects on my sc in the future.
I love the way your SC looks just the way it is.
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 01:20 AM
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like duh...
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 03:41 AM
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like duh...
Please expand upon your definition of "duh" in this instance.
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by Jza
Does anybody else think that Camarofreak85s car looks pretty cool with a black sailpanel ala the newer Z28s? I kinda like that.

It's unique. I think I like it, too. I'm not sure if it would look right in other colors, but that works.
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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hes a better pic of my car i like it the way it is and i like it even better because its one of a kind
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 03:29 PM
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sorry heres the pic
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 04:35 PM
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i like both

i had 2 camaro's with no gfx so far and i like them just as much as the ones with, but i am currecntly putting gfx on my car

R.I.P.

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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 05:52 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
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camarofreak,
I like what you have done by painting the top of the caar black. I have considered doing that to my formula, but just painting around the windshield.

John
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 06:00 PM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
to this:

what do you think?
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Old Mar 14, 2002 | 09:32 PM
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okfoz, I like the windshield pillars painted black on your car. It looks cooler that way.
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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I'm really surprised that the Camaro without ground effects has gotten as many votes as it has. I like them for two reasons: I think ground effects and stuff usually looks pretty cheesy because it's clear that it's just added on to the body as opposed to being part of the original style; also, the Camaros without groud effects are more practical in the sense that you don't have to worry about scraping the front air dam on everything in your path. I agree that the G.E. package makes the car look a lot "tougher", but I kind of like the clean ones...
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Old Mar 20, 2002 | 10:10 PM
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The non FX cars have much more "style" to them than the Z28's IMO,.......

The ground effects package only looked good in 91-92 when they actually had a function (brake cooling) and were not just dead wieght on the car. (I'm sure you can all feel the aerodynamics of those ground effects - NOT)

my opinion about the camaro FX (best-to-worst) :

1) no Effects

2) 91-92 Z effects

3) 82-84 effects

4) 85-90 effects
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