what brakes fit our thirdgens, can i buy c5 corvette calipers and bolt them on? do i have to change rotors? help me out here, i know this question is dumb as dirt

 

Discussed a million times.

 

ya well i did search and now im asking, thanks for the smart *** comment.

 

your options are 1le kits, they are not a direct bolt on with out slightly modded spindles, and c4,c4 hd, c5, c5 zo6, and i know the c6 base model i think has 2 options that fit. and also ls1 brakes. there are probably more but those are off the top of my head and are fairly cheap enough to do. keep searching on here and you will see. all the listed above you need 16 inch and 17inch rims at the least. and the gta wheels i see alot of people complain about stuff fitting. i personaly have a c5 zo6 package up front and love it. i got my kit before i knew who ed miller was on here but look up his name on here or go to where i got mine from and just look a little bit. bigbrakeupgrade.com look under feedback and there is a pic of my black iroc with the brakes on. look at the difference they can make just in looks.

 

Two million. Here's the basic idea:

http://www.ws6transam.org/1LEbrake.html

JamesC

 

We need a bit more info that what you are giving us: What size wheels do you plan on running? How do you drive the car? Any racing in the future? There are swaps out there ranging in size from 12" to 13.5" and I have a 14" kit in the works. Glad to help you out, just open up a bit. I currently offer about 15 different front kits for just third gens so I'm sure we can get you hooked up.

Ed

 

i just bought a set of 18 x 9.5 Z06's, the car is my everday driver, but i dont drive much and when i do i tend to drive hard, the will be drag raced, and im planning to do some autox in the future. because as my car sits, the braking is horrible, me and my dad have flushed the system multipule times, replaced rotors, pads,lines, even drums, the car still is a stone, and quite frankly i deem it unsave for driving, especially with wet roads. i really have my eye on the z06 kit, since i have the wheels coming via ups i saw your set up and its beautiful, i love it

 

Based on what you said and the wheels you are running I would recommend a 12.75" C5/C6 setup, a 13" Wilwood setup, or a new 13.5" C6 Z51 setup. These will give you plenty of brake power and the base 12.75" and 13" WW setups will also allow for a smaller wheel if you ever needed to run one, the 13" WW setup will even tuck into a 16" stock wheel. Let me know if you need any more info on the setups, I have most in stock and ready to go.

Good luck!

Ed

 

could you give me prices of all those options?

 

Sent you a PM..

Ed

 

Do you have any pic's or the parts that would be needed for this setup? I found a set (Kit) of Wilwood's in Jegs but they are only 10.75" rotors but I like the aluminum parts. I think they called them a pro series or something.

 

Spohn sells a complete 1LE front brake set-up for $850 and you can either modify your existing spindles yourself, or send your's in to Spohn and they'll modify them for you for an additional $75.

Spohn Performance, Inc.

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TheBigBrakeUpgrade sells a complete LS1 front brake conversion for a much more reasonable $650 and have a lot of options such as powdercoating the calipers and adding cross-drilled rotors etc. etc. but the price will sky-rocket even higher than the 1LE system from Spohn, after you've selected a few of their options so don't get too carried away....

bigbrakeupgrade.com


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Then there's BAER which is (in my opinion) the best brake upgrade for our cars which is currently on sale for $1151 at ThunderRacing.


Thunder Racing - Complete Braking Kits for your 1982-1992 F-Body


All run duel piston calipers and have 12" rotors and will fitinside the factory 16" wheels.

BAER also sells a kit with 13" rotors that some have managed to squeeze into the 16" '1991-'92 factory 5 spoke wheels without modification. No word yet if they fit the 16" wheels of the earlier IROC's.

I plan on going with the Baer kit myself, probably the one with 12" rotors unless someone can conform the 13"s will work with the factory 16" wheels of my '88. The cost of the 12 and 13" rotor packages are, interestngly enough, pretty much the same so if the 13"s fit, I'd go with them.

 

FYI, I just purchased a Wilwood rear dynalite pro series brake kit which has the integrated parking brake, vented 12.19 inch rotors and 4-piston calipers (part #140-7140). Total cost was $630 and I'm told it'll easily clear the 17" Edelbrock 454 rims that are currently on the vehicle. I won't have the kit installed for at least 10 more days (as it has to arrive first) but I thought I'd at least pass along the info.

 

I'm interested in knowing your results & seeing some pic's. This system seems like it would be strong with pistons coming in from both side's. What did you go with in the front. I think the aluminum hubs with the 4 pistons & smaller diameter rotors might save a little weight but still add performance over stock or 1le? But I 'll let the more informed brakee's keep us on what's hot or not.

 

You need to shop around..I can beat most if not all of the prices listed above. Seems that when you start adding options the price does go way up. Get a quote and then get with me, I'm sure I can beat the price you're given and don't forget shipping is on top of all that.

As for the Baer 13" kit, it may not fit your stock 16" wheels but my 13" C4 HD kit will. It's what I personally run on my RS and is truly a great setup for the money. That price of $1151 is before any options such as zinc washing and/or drilled and slotted rotors. Again, get a price and then PM me and I'm sure you'll be pleased, do your homework or you'll waste some money.

Ed

 

Why would you think of going with a smaller brake setup than the underpowered stock setup? If you check into it, you'll find that unless you go with a more expensive custom setup that most Wilwood kits are for a lighter car used in drags and such where braking is not the most important thing, on the street you'll want good brakes that won't fade. The 1LE is a great setup but there are better out there without going to a smaller rotor. Do more searching and see what you come up with.

Good luck!

Ed

 

so ebmiller in these kits you sell, they come with everything you need i take it?

 

The wilwood set I'm speaking about is the Dynalite 4-piston HD Pro-series front kit. Part# 140-2992-B, The part number in jegs, add a 950 to the front of the number. Is this an upgrade?

 

Absolutely, down to the last bolt with DOT legal braided lines STANDARD, no added cost to get them.

Ed

 

Not really.. you do get a much better caliper and hub design but a SMALLER rotor than stock, 10.75" x 0.81" thick. The stock rotor is over an inch thick. You can get a full breakdown of that kit here, find the P/N on the right side:

Dynalite Pro Series Front Hub Kits

That kit is rated for cars over 2800 lbs but ours are typically over 3500.

Ed

 

Thanks Ed. If the cost wasn't an issue, What aftermarket kit would you recommend & what GM units would you recommend to use?
I'll be using 18" rears & 17" fronts & custom offset Trakstar S Wheels.

 

Was mentioned that the Baer 13'' rotors won't clear the
16'' Iroc wheels. They do! Barely and no grinding.
Its the calipher you have to worry about but it clears.
Have the Baer C4HD with the Aluminum hubs and 13''
drilled and anodized setup on my 87 Iroc.
The kit I got also came with new spindles on an exchange
basis.Bearings ,seals, Aluminum hubs and stainless lines.

Just for info

Later

 

With a blannk check I'd probably go with a C6 ZO6, Brembo or top grade Wilwood setup with sealed calipers but that would be around $2K which IMO is over the top for a street car. Since you have the wheels that will hold them, I'd recommend a C5/C6 setup without question. Top notch performance and huge aftermarket and parts base. If I had 17"s on any car I currently drive, I would run a C6 setup on the front and some custom setup similar to a C5/C6/LS1 rear setup for consistency. I am building a 1970 RS which will have the setup I just described with DBA Gold series front rotors and the rear setup which I'm still finalizing.

Jaykar, thanks for the info on the Baer setup fitting 16" wheels. It was verified to me that they would not but it seems they do, I stand corrected. My point remains that you can build the same setup for hundreds less and have money left over to go on other areas.

Ed

 

Hi,

Still looking for old paperwork but if remember rite
the kit was 11 hundred and change.
I believe also the reason for the spindle exchange or
machining is thier using larger Vette bearing in the
aluminum hubs. Didn't compare them at the time so
can't say for sure.

I want to upgrade the rears also, BW 9- bolt but going to
have to do on the cheap if I can.

Later

 

I realise there are many more options avaliable to us but I didn't feel the need to go any list every possible one. I was just giving him a few basic options to give him an idea where he could start looking.

As for myself, yes, I do plan on upgrading my brakes, hopefully before the winter arrives but really haven't fully "researched" the subject myself. I was planning on doing that when the time came.

You say your "your" 13" C4 brakes would fit, I'm curious to know more.

Obviously, my existing spindles would have to be modified or replaced all together but what exacly does your set-up include? Is it a complete kit? What options do I have with these brakes and how much money am I looking at here. What are the payment options? etc. etc.

The price on the Baer kit that's on sale now seems pretty reasonable given the quality of the super high quality of parts being used and the peace of mind knowing Baer has been in the business for many years and are amonst the top rated brake companies in the business....

If you could provide something equally as good as, if not better than the Baer option, for less money, that's one hell of an accomplishment.

I must admit, you've sparked my curiosity.

Tell me all I need to know and you may just get another customer