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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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newer style brake booster

I have seen in a pic of a third gen camaro. what looks to be the braking system off a newer body camaro (4th gen) .Is this something that can be done fairly easy or is it alot of work? It looks like it opens he engine bay up on that side of the motor. I am currently having some issues with space on that side of the motor due to the supercharger I have installed on my car (ati carbed blowthrew style)any help with this question would be great.Or advise were I can get the info I need
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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yes it can be done. and its easy should only take you like 1hr to bolt it in max. 4 bolts under the dash and it pulles out and the bracket on the pedal.

im researching how to make the lines fit into the newer 4th gen master.
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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does installing the 4th gen booster eliminate the distrubution block also.or does that have to stay?and another thing I have drum rear brake does that means I need to find a 4th gen with drum rear brakes also.once again thank you!!!
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 11:17 PM
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you wont find a 4th gen with rear drum brakes. just convert to disk if you want. but it will work just fine with the drum in the rear and you have to keep your distrobution block up front you just have to make your own lines frm the master cylinder to the proportional vavle.
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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the V6 4th gens had drum brakes I believe. This is a mod I planon doing soon as mine has almost 200K on it now and I plan on adding C5 brakes
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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Does it weigh any less?
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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bottled your car looks sick. but what about the gearing and strength of the v6 10bolt? you should just get a strange 12 bolt for a 4th gen and use disk brakes.
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Old Dec 10, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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the mod I was talking about doing is the master/booster upgrade along with the C5 brakes. Not the rearend drum swap.
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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by 92camarors5spd
you wont find a 4th gen with rear drum brakes. just convert to disk if you want. but it will work just fine with the drum in the rear and you have to keep your distrobution block up front you just have to make your own lines frm the master cylinder to the proportional vavle.

As stated below, this is wrong. Many 4th gens came with rear drums.

The booster and master are separate so yes, you'll still need both of them. One option for you is to install this one from CPP, it has an internal prop valve built into it so all you'll need is this one part:

http://www.nastyz28.com/forum/showth...ghlight=master

Ed
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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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Ed, thats not a bad looking piece there. you think something like that is a big improvement over our setups? Would it be worth it money wise to get that instead of a 4th gen master? I know I need to upgrade mine sooner or later and I want something that is clean looking and is easy to setup and use. My car originaly came with a drum rear and I have installed the Lt1 rear disc brakes. I will add the C5 front brakes in the spring and thats when I plan on replacing the old tired master and booster with maybe a 4th gen unit or something like that setup. Now I would have to still run a booster with that setup right?
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Old Dec 28, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 92camarors5spd
yes it can be done. and its easy should only take you like 1hr to bolt it in max. 4 bolts under the dash and it pulles out and the bracket on the pedal.

im researching how to make the lines fit into the newer 4th gen master.
My questions--
  • Is the fourthgen master/booster set better than properly-working thirdgen units?
  • What's the difference in driving? Less pedal pressure? Quicker response? Better braking performance?
Adapting the lines shouldn't be a problem. There are lots of flared size adapters available, even at Home Depot. How'd that turn out for you?
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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:42 PM
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i asked this a few months ago and it is more so for looks. i was told the plunger is a little smaller in the master cylinder and will in turn take less brake pedal force to apply the same amount of pressure to the calipers. it bolts right on and has the nicer and easier fill cap. i havent done the swap yet for lack of money but will be doing that and a line lock kit soon.
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