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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 07:11 AM
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6x4 Speaker Questions

Have any of you guys got Lanzar 46.1 4" X 6" speakers. 2-way, 220W max with neodymium magnets.

Any one had any trouble fitting them?

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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 11:06 AM
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why would you get lanzar? theyll blow on you in a week.
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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they pish then? just that all others that i have seen are only 50w RMS n stuff and we plan on doing an install that will rock, no cheap crap in it if you get me.

what am i best doing? putting a set of 4x6's or making up some plates and putting some good components, that will take amplification, in the space, and mounting the tweeters elsewhere?

also anyone done any good door pods? i made a set with my brother for his Ka and they are the dogs, but not to sure what kinda thing i should do on the Firebird
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 12:57 PM
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no 4x6's are gonna give you good bass response... and what he said about blowing in a week... is cuz they are a crappy speaker... the reason the RMS isn't very high on other brands is because they don't NEED a lot of power to sound good... geta pair of kick panels with a good component set and a good amp then you'll be set
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by JamFitz
they pish then? just that all others that i have seen are only 50w RMS n stuff and we plan on doing an install that will rock, no cheap crap in it if you get me.
install that will rock? no cheap crap? Lanzar?
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 01:00 PM
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lol, ok then a set of pannels and components it is then. Thanks
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 02:37 PM
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Yeah, just make sure they're not Lanzar components either!
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Old Sep 29, 2002 | 02:39 PM
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hehe ok then. i might go for a set of Kenwood HQ stuff, or the dual mags i put in me bro's Ka. wanna see a pic of the pods?
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Old Oct 2, 2002 | 05:10 PM
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ok then, in that case, what kinda kicker platers should i get? or should i make my own? i havent had the dash off yet so i aint to sure u see. if nyone knows a good brand plz let me know

and the 6x9's behind the front seats, can they just be replaced easily or is it a bugger to get acess to them?

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Old Oct 2, 2002 | 05:22 PM
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its very easy to get to the 6x9s, you should use baffles when installing your new 6x9s. check crutchfield. i must say, thats one thing thats not rediculously over price at crutchfield.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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Lanzar eh?? ....i hear that Lanzar VIBERANT series amps are a decent low cost amp... anyone?
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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got no idea m8,i from the UK and i aint hear of Lanzar b4, what do the baffels do? just stop it from getting dammaged and echoing into the car body 2much?
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 04:58 PM
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you got the basic idea of them.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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good stuff. thankx

kick plates nyone? should i make my own or buy some n put components in them?
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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Baffles should help stop some crappy sounding bass coming out. Lanzars suck. Dash 4x6s suck. go components if you can. All IMO.
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Old Oct 3, 2002 | 11:24 PM
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That is one sweet looking doorpod setup. I can't say I've seen one nicer. Most I ever see are dumb rectangular boxes on the bottoms of the doors that look like they should never have been there. Kick panels are definitely the way to go... if you want good high quality ones, talk to REZN8R on this board. If you want OK ones for too much money, go with QLogic brand. The 4x6 locations in the dash are good places to mount crossovers for the kick panel components (usually a 6" mid-bass and 1" tweeter). If you plan on going completely insane, just build a sub box for 2 15s in your rear well, a box above the gas tank with 4 8" sub/mid-bass speakers, and a wicked amp rack where your rear seats are (used to be.. ). Throw some random 5" and 6" components here and there along with two more tweeters, and you'll be setting off alarms three blocks ahead of you. :-D
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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 10:23 AM
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lol and thankx, took us a while to do them :S. yeah we were thinking about 2 JL 8w3's and a JL 10w3 in the back with 3 amps sub mounted behind perspex in the boot. maybeh for a laff also a set of 6x9's a set of 6x9's in the original positions and maybeh a wee door build, a bit more restricitve in the Firebird than in the Ka :P.

cheers for the help

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 08:13 PM
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you will never get good mid bass from the 6x9 without building a custum box to put in place of the sh!ty fiberglass/cloth with holes enclosure.
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 07:19 AM
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u seen the newest kenwood 6x9's? bassy as **** n i only running them off the head unit so far
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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jamfitz, have you ever run your 6x9's in boxes befor you put them in your third gen? i am running the JBL GTO serires 695 (dont no the exact number) and are not the gto 925 that they offer on their web site, min have an rms rating of 5-150 watts, which is more than they offer now. my 6x9's have better midbass than factory, but dont even have half the mid base output possible because of the factory encloser.
i have been wandering if removing the fiberglass encloser that is there from factory would improve or hurt the sound. has anyone done this?

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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 04:43 PM
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which fiber glass enclosure?
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Old Oct 5, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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you know that black cloth like thing that the speaker mounts into. that is the fiberglass "enclosure".

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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 06:02 AM
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ahh right, dnt have a clue sry
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 07:32 PM
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I had a post up here a while back about building mdf boxes in place of those fiberglass things. I think it would require a little metalwork to get it all snug in there, but would probably be worth it. Anyway, if you're gonna go for something like this, I'd just get a 6" component rather than a 6x9, this way, you KNOW you're gonna get some real good sound. I haven't seen any manufacturer websites that havebox building specs for anything smaller than 8" subs, but I'm sure you can always give them a call.
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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 07:59 PM
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i am not planning on running stock size speakers for much longer, i just run what i have, i have eclipse 3.5 in the dash and the jbl 6x9s in back, and 1 jl W0 pushed by a soundstream audio amp.

i am trying to fit 6.5 in components in the back, super tweets abouve those and a set of 3.5s below them. in front i am going to run a cuustom mod dash with 4 super tweeters aimed toawrd the occupants (the way there suppose to be), and either 2 setes of 3.5s, or 2 sets of 4", or a set of 6.5 in place of the 4x6s. also going to have a set of tweeters on the a pilars neer the top of the windsheild, and custome made kicks on the floor housing a set of 6.5 components with tweeters abouve those. i want to run the new jl W7, but wont if i can find something that will sound as good for cheaper. i plan on using 3 high quallity high power amps to power all of this, and have an in dash panasonic dvd player as my head unit, which = expensive, best sounding, in car surrond sound system. take into mind that all speakers but the subs will be aimed at the occupants, to get the best sound possible. i like clear sound, this should give it to me

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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 08:37 PM
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as far as the dash goes, the speakers reflect at an angle off the windshield that aims the sound directly at the occupants. A cool idea though, would be mounting the four tweeters on the dash, aimed at the occupants, with Left and Right sides for each person. I'm sure the sound would be messy in the back, but would sound awesome up front.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 06:22 AM
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interesting, not sure how it would sound either but it could be good. i was thinking about the new kenwood HQ(the purple ones) speakers that have the tweeter mounted above the woofer and considering them.
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Old Oct 7, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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i want to run the new jl W7, but wont if i can find something that will sound as good for cheaper.
you simply won't find anything that'll run with the new W7...cheaper anyway... although you may wanna look at his little brother,.. the JL W6v2. same design and evertyhing.
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 06:04 AM
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yeah i looked into the 10w6v2 and it was gonna need maybeh a RF 500 monoblock amp. the 10w6v2's should run about 400 watts RMS so its gonna b £400 for me to get an amp for it. still considering it though. if ur wanting to run a 12w7 i suggest that u either pay for a RF one or get a JL one that they recomend useage with. no point in having one of the best subs out atm and not having it souding the dogs, its a comp sub so get a comp. amp!

nyone got ny of the JL series? i have heard the w0's they pretty good, thinking about a few w3's for the TA. maybeh a w6v2 in me bro's car, not sure though. nyone got ny info on the w3's?
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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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if you read my whole post, you would see that i have a 12 jl W0, and yes it is one of the best bang for your buck subs, they are severlly underrated in power. i want to hear the highest quallity audiobaun subs next to the jl w7 to see what the diff in sound qullity is if any. ya i love jl, its what i have run from the begining. as for the system i desighned sounding wererd, i have to clarify the speaker positions, they will be pionted at the occupants, meaning the occupant compartment, and install them in a way to get the best sound and scan (side to side, back to front) possible. yes the sound would reflect off the windsheild, but every time sound is deflected, it hurts quallity more than you would think, take my 3.5s for instance, in my supra they point at you directly, they were clear, and loud, in the camaro, they are somewhat muffled, and the highs arent half of what they were before, and this is all using the same sorce of power, my panasonic df88 cd player. so in the long run i think myt setup will work and sound a lot better, and get them out of direct sunlight to make them last longer.

thanks for reading my essay
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 06:00 AM
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lol no problems, yeah the 12 w0's my m8 got are superb. so waht ur saying is try not to have to much sound deflecting off then windsheilds?
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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no 4x6's are gonna give you good bass response...

come listen to my Infinity Kappas sometime. granted, you're not gonna bass into the 30Hz range, but for the size of that driver, the bass is rather impressive!. (BTW, I have a Rockford 10" bass tube in what little trunk I have to take care of any shortcomings on bass.)
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Old Oct 9, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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The 4x6 locations in the dash are good places to mount crossovers for the kick panel components
if you dont have to adjust them ever, that would suck every time to take the dash pad off
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Old Oct 11, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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lol no problems, yeah the 12 w0's my m8 got are superb. so waht ur saying is try not to have to much sound deflecting off then windsheilds?
yea, any deflection of sound, especially highs, will distort it .

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