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Old 03-31-2003, 04:46 PM
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Problem with new amp, JBL 600.1

i just got it today and threw it in. i'm sure that i have everything connected properly but the power light on the amp isnt coming on. i've changed grounds a few times and i have to have power to it... so whats wrong?
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Re: Problem with new amp, JBL 600.1

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i just got it today and threw it in. i'm sure that i have everything connected properly but the power light on the amp isnt coming on. i've changed grounds a few times and i have to have power to it... so whats wrong?
Do you have a remote wire connected, to tell it to turn on???
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yup, but even if the remote wasnt good it should still show power right?
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what gauge is your remote wire?
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its 16, i was wondering about that but even without the remote shouldnt it atleast show that it has power?
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Nope thats the switch for power.
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ok i'll go look over all of that, maybe a screw split the wire or soem crap.
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try 14 or 12 gauge for your remote
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even though it comes from the wiring harness at 16 gauge?
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no need to go larger than 16 for your remote, 14 would be the max (and it would still be overkill). one way to check to see if its the remote wire, make sure the power and ground are hooked up to the amp. next, get a small piece of wire and connect one end to the remote in and the other end to the 12+. the amp should turn on. also, check to see if the head unit is even putting out power to the remote wire. take a voltmeter, hook the ground up to chassis (or anywhere else thats grounded) and touch the other probe to the remote wire. if the head unit is on, it should be putting out 12v. if it is, and the previous test also worked, then your remote wire got broken somewhere down the line. had this happen to me (screwed a panel down to tight and it cut the wire.
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no need to go larger than 16 for your remote, 14 would be the max (and it would still be overkill). one way to check to see if its the remote wire, make sure the power and ground are hooked up to the amp. next, get a small piece of wire and connect one end to the remote in and the other end to the 12+. the amp should turn on. also, check to see if the head unit is even putting out power to the remote wire. take a voltmeter, hook the ground up to chassis (or anywhere else thats grounded) and touch the other probe to the remote wire. if the head unit is on, it should be putting out 12v. if it is, and the previous test also worked, then your remote wire got broken somewhere down the line. had this happen to me (screwed a panel down to tight and it cut the wire.
Exactly.

The amp will not turn on with out a 12V source to tell it to turn on. You could run a Zillion volts to it. Still wont come on.

Must use a remote wire. or sumpting like that.
Any 12-18 guage wire should be fine. But 12 is gonna be kinda big...
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well i reran new remote wire and it still didnt work. thats when i connected the remote on the amp to the 12v and it worked perfectly. stupid pioneer head units! this is the second time since june that i've had to send it in to get fixed. anyone wana buy it once i get it fixed? haha. anyway thanks alot for your help guys.
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Originally posted by KsKid
well i reran new remote wire and it still didnt work. thats when i connected the remote on the amp to the 12v and it worked perfectly. stupid pioneer head units! this is the second time since june that i've had to send it in to get fixed. anyone wana buy it once i get it fixed? haha. anyway thanks alot for your help guys.
Just hook up a swithed wire.
When you want the amp to turn on, hit the switch.
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heh i like that idea... but i'de rather have it fixed since its something thats broken. stupid pioneer
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or what ya could do if ya want it to turn on with the car is just find a source that turns on when the car is turned on, thats what i did with my pos amp i got for my 6x9s
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yeah i thought of that too... but since its pioneers POS product i'm gona make them fix it the right way or else i'll just make them take it back. this friggin ticks me off
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yeah, thats why i never buy pioneer and thier amps suck i hate them, but thats my opnion
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i should have looked into them better before i bought one, but that was before i knew about ike sound and i just thought "hum, pioneer, thats a well known company, their stuff must be good." GRRR! i'm just glad i didnt get sony. oh crap, i just remembered i bought the pioneer to replace a crappy sony that was in the car when i bought it.
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once i get my deck back would it hurt anything to put a switch on the remote wire just so i can turn it off and on easily when i want to? it would be nice to have music but not that much bass sometimes. thanks
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wont hurt a thing. the remote out doest put out much power
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I'm a little confused about you guys that are using up to 12 gauge for the remote wire. I just did an install with a rockford fosgate amp kit (one of those rediculously overpriced ones) and the remote wire was 20 gauge. Come to think of it I don't ever remember seeing an amp kit that came with anything bigger than 20 gauge. Is there some sort of benefit to having a larger remote wire that I'm missing
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i'm doing it because its stronger and the coating is thicker... with me i'm always taking out my dash, pannels, head unit... stuff like that so i give my wiring a pretty good beating while i'm at it. this way it wont be as likley to accidentally expose something. (i've screwed my head unit twice now, im going with the better safe than sorry method)

thanks for the info for the switch.
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Didn't see anyone mention it, but does your remote wire coming off the headunit harness have a fuse? I know the top Premier models have this fuse, don't know about the lower lines though. The fuse they put on it is REALLY small and REALLY EASY to blow.
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nope, its defentally the head unit though. theres nothing else it could be. i got the amp to work and took a line directly from the head unit to the remote on teh amp and nothing... i did have another question though. i remember reading something about its bad to cross 2 certain wires. is that the power and ground wires? because right now they are crossing, right infront of the amp. or was it the power wire and speaker wire? i have no idea, thanks alot though
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it is best to keep power wires away from signal wires (such as speaker or rcas). it is not horrible to do, it just makes your system more likely to have noise.
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ok, thanks... and what the heck is wrong with the post, its infected with HITHERE's...? haha
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