B-Quiet warning! Low Grade is junk! (pics)
B-Quiet warning! Low Grade is junk! (pics)
Ok well first off let me say that I have no one to blame but myself. I heard from a few sources that b-quiet was some pretty decent stuff, so I did just a little bit of research and found the same thing. However I didn't do enough research and I ended up getting the lowest grade they have, which isn't what everyone is talking about when they say that b-quiet has some good stuff. The good b-quiet stuff is the 'brown bread' or something like that. So I'm putting in new carpet and put down the sound deadening at the same time, about a week after I get this stuff in I realize it is junk! I can tell no difference whatsoever after putting the sound deadening in and the first hot day we have (in wyoming nonetheless) this junk is sliding around and places that weren't level, like the hatch area, the stuff just bunched together where it started to slide downwards.
I learned long ago, with cars especially, that you might as well do it right and do it once. But unfortunately I didn't do that this time as I was a poor college student and didn't want to go the dynomat extreme route or something like that. I really learned my lesson on this one. Anyways I'm trying to remove this stuff because I've decided to either put in dynomat or some raammat, probably be going with raammat.
I spent 2 hours trying to clean up this stuff with a scraper and heat gun which didn't work well at all and made a huge mess. In those 2 hours I didn't even get the all of the hatch well done. My heat gun ended up going to crap on me so now I guess I'm going to try using a sharp scraper and some paint thinner.
I'm just putting this out there to make sure no-one makes the same mistake that I did and to see if maybe anyone else has tryed to clean up this stuff and how they did it? Or maybe if anyone has any suggestions??
Here are a few pics of what I'm left with.....
I learned long ago, with cars especially, that you might as well do it right and do it once. But unfortunately I didn't do that this time as I was a poor college student and didn't want to go the dynomat extreme route or something like that. I really learned my lesson on this one. Anyways I'm trying to remove this stuff because I've decided to either put in dynomat or some raammat, probably be going with raammat.
I spent 2 hours trying to clean up this stuff with a scraper and heat gun which didn't work well at all and made a huge mess. In those 2 hours I didn't even get the all of the hatch well done. My heat gun ended up going to crap on me so now I guess I'm going to try using a sharp scraper and some paint thinner.
I'm just putting this out there to make sure no-one makes the same mistake that I did and to see if maybe anyone else has tryed to clean up this stuff and how they did it? Or maybe if anyone has any suggestions??
Here are a few pics of what I'm left with.....
Here is there website. http://www.b-quiet.com/
I imagine they still carry the same junk, I got this stuff about 2 years ago and haven't been to their site since.
I imagine they still carry the same junk, I got this stuff about 2 years ago and haven't been to their site since.
i have 35 sq/ft of Brown Bread waiting to be installed and over on FBodyAudio i have hear nothing but good things about it. Some people live in really hot climates and use it with no worries. i guess it's just cuz you bought their lowest grade stuff? i dunno. i hope i didn't waste 95 bucks. Thanks for the info!, sorry about the mess!
- Andy
- Andy
Originally posted by White Ninja
i have 35 sq/ft of Brown Bread waiting to be installed and over on FBodyAudio i have hear nothing but good things about it. Some people live in really hot climates and use it with no worries. i guess it's just cuz you bought their lowest grade stuff? i dunno. i hope i didn't waste 95 bucks. Thanks for the info!, sorry about the mess!
- Andy
i have 35 sq/ft of Brown Bread waiting to be installed and over on FBodyAudio i have hear nothing but good things about it. Some people live in really hot climates and use it with no worries. i guess it's just cuz you bought their lowest grade stuff? i dunno. i hope i didn't waste 95 bucks. Thanks for the info!, sorry about the mess!
- Andy
You should be alright, as I said in my original thread the 'brown bread' is the good stuff that b-quiet carries. I just didn't do all my homework and ended up getting this cheap crap and it has turned out to be one of the worst things I have ever done to my car. Lesson learned though. You should be alright with the brown bread, I was just making sure other people didn't make the same mistake I did.
Brandon
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you sould try puting a plastic garbage bags over it until it dries or just keep them in there, i did that when i put sound deadening in, it has never given me any trouble
This stuff can't really dry though, its tar based, when it gets hot it gets gooey and slides around. There isn't really any way to fix that I think, plus I want to get this junk out so I can put something decent in.
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One option besides heating it is getting a can of liquid nitrogen in a compressed form. You spray it on to the surface you want to remove a sticky, gooey from and it hardens it. Then you chip it off.
Now, I just know this because i've used it when I worked at dominics to remove stuff like gum from the floors. No idea what it may cost, or do to your paint so please don't take this as a working option. Its something you may want to ask body men about. They might have experience with removing that crap.
Now, I just know this because i've used it when I worked at dominics to remove stuff like gum from the floors. No idea what it may cost, or do to your paint so please don't take this as a working option. Its something you may want to ask body men about. They might have experience with removing that crap.
Someone else I know suggested this to me, but where would I get something like this? I checked wal-mart and autozone to see if they had that aersol stuff that is supposed to freeze gum, etc, but I didn't see any. I know I've seen this stuff before though, but can't remember where.
I'm not worried about the paint at all, its going to get a new one anyways.
I'm not worried about the paint at all, its going to get a new one anyways.
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ah just a thought but i would try paint thinner/ mineral spirats or acetone or maybe some good ol gasoline will make it easier to get off?
when ever i the previous owner got gum in the carpets i used the stuff to clean keyboards like said above and it worked great....now i keep like 2 cans at all times just incase i get gum on clothes,carpet,seats or anything else
That looks like a mess. The brown bread is great stuff and is used by many top competitors. I personally have 100 sq feet of the b-quiet extreme in my car and had no problems with it whatsoever. In fact I would reccomed it as an alternative to dynamat extreme when on a budget. I too bought it when I was still in college. My next car will be entirely brown bread since I can afford it now.
Have you sent these pics to b-quiet. They should do something for you to make this right.
Have you sent these pics to b-quiet. They should do something for you to make this right.
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91% Rubbing Alcohol will remove just about any sticky mess... but that's a lot of crap you've got back there. If you do try the alcohol just wear rubber gloves if you have any cuts on your fingers. That stuff burns 3X worse than %70 in a cut!
Later,
Harry
Later,
Harry
I have 70 sq ft of brown bread in my '91. Covered the entire interior body and doors. It is great and the engine/muffler noise that was originally maddening is now a quiet rumble. My doors just make a dull thud when shut too.
I used a wooden roller to install it all. It sticks like mad if you roll it good.
I used a wooden roller to install it all. It sticks like mad if you roll it good.
Originally posted by Thirim
removal?? putty knife and heat gun... though why bother?.. get brown bread and put it on top.
removal?? putty knife and heat gun... though why bother?.. get brown bread and put it on top.
I tried the putty knife/heat gun trick, it didn't work at all really. It just made the stuff gooey and didn't help at all. I haven't tried the cold method yet but I'm not sure how much one of those cans would do and I don't really want to have to buy 20 cans of that stuff to get it all removed. There probably isn't any easy solution though. The reason I don't want to put anything on top of it is because when it gets hot this stuff slides around and within the next few months I'm going to be moving to arizona most likely. This junk slide around with just the heat when I lived in wyoming! I really don't want to just put anything down on top of this, but I really don't know what else to do besides putting 100's of hours into removing this stuff.
Anybody else? Thanks for all the comments guys. BTW - I think now that its been suggested I might send those pics to them and see what they say.
Thanks again.
Brandon
My reply from B-quiet:
Brandon,
I'm sorry to hear you had problems with B-Quiet Original. It has not
been offered for sale in over 16 months - and for the last six months
that we did offer it, it was sold with the warning to be used only on
floors and other flat surfaces. This warning was on both our website
and
on the application instructions.
If it's been applied to doors or other vertical surfaces, it should be
quite easy to remove with a scraper and some heat from a heat gun/hair
dryer. Once the bulk of the material is removed, a degreaser (even
something like WD-40) will remove any residue.
If there's anything else I can help with, please let me know.
Regards,
Wade
I'm going to write them back again and see if they have any other suggestions. I saw the warning, that he mentions, about applying it to doors, vertical surfaces, etc. The only vertical surfaces I applied it to is the back hatch area where it slopes down. But its not just the vertical areas where this slides around, it does it on the floors too. I can only imagine how bad it would be in arizona. I have tried using the heat gun method but it doesn't do anything but make a mess. I know there is no way a hair dryer would accomplish this. I had my heat gun on the 900* setting and had this stuff literally dripping in areas and then when i tried to scrape it up all it did was turn to mush and make a mess. I wish it was as easy as he makes it sound, but its not at all
I'm not sure what else to do.
Brandon,
I'm sorry to hear you had problems with B-Quiet Original. It has not
been offered for sale in over 16 months - and for the last six months
that we did offer it, it was sold with the warning to be used only on
floors and other flat surfaces. This warning was on both our website
and
on the application instructions.
If it's been applied to doors or other vertical surfaces, it should be
quite easy to remove with a scraper and some heat from a heat gun/hair
dryer. Once the bulk of the material is removed, a degreaser (even
something like WD-40) will remove any residue.
If there's anything else I can help with, please let me know.
Regards,
Wade
I'm going to write them back again and see if they have any other suggestions. I saw the warning, that he mentions, about applying it to doors, vertical surfaces, etc. The only vertical surfaces I applied it to is the back hatch area where it slopes down. But its not just the vertical areas where this slides around, it does it on the floors too. I can only imagine how bad it would be in arizona. I have tried using the heat gun method but it doesn't do anything but make a mess. I know there is no way a hair dryer would accomplish this. I had my heat gun on the 900* setting and had this stuff literally dripping in areas and then when i tried to scrape it up all it did was turn to mush and make a mess. I wish it was as easy as he makes it sound, but its not at all
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Laquer thinner.
Sorry to hear about the mess. It sounds like one of those "*** I hope this works since that's all I have the money for."
Been there, done that. It's a hard learned lesson that we all seem to forget sometimes.
Use the laquer thinner and a wire brush. It'll thin it out enough for you to be able to whipe it off with a rag.
Sorry to hear about the mess. It sounds like one of those "*** I hope this works since that's all I have the money for."

Been there, done that. It's a hard learned lesson that we all seem to forget sometimes.
Use the laquer thinner and a wire brush. It'll thin it out enough for you to be able to whipe it off with a rag.
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i used brown bread and i cleaned the tools with electro contact cleaner.. it was the 1st spray i grabbed.. and it works great, the instructions say paint thinner though.. but that electro contact cleaner.. not sure whats in it.. probably a lot of x-tane's but the stuff just fell off the knife and roller.
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This is going a little extreme, but out at work we have this cleaner that will take the hair off your *** if you make it strong enough...I mean it turned this wall that was yellow, and I mean yellow, from smoke, fiberglass, adn all sorts of other nasty stuff. And it turned that wall COMPLETELY white, the wall looks like it just got a new paint job. Only down side is that it is bout 500 bucks for 5 gallons...but if you can find someplace that will give you a gallon can, for reletively cheap, that will clean your entire car out. Just mix it any way you want, in a spray bottle, in a bucket and use a scrubber or sponge, whatever. Just wear gloves cuz the stuff will burn like a ****** if you get it on your hands at full potency (not mixed w/ water) I'll try to get the name of the stuff tomorrow from work. I know its a long shot, but if you can find some of it, you should be set. Actually....I can get you a quart can of it, I can "borrow" it...I dont know how the post office will like it shipping in the mail...PM me if interested, and we'll try to work somethin out...I borrowed some for my rims, have bout 3/4 of a quart can left. It works on anything, and doesnt hurt paint. You only have to mix like a tablespoon per GALLON. So mix in a few medicine cups into an empty windex bottle, and it should work great. Or, if you can find some Methyl Ethyl Ketone, its stronger than Acetone. Try that stuff. You'd have to go to a chemical place for that though.
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