I am trying to find out how i want to set up sound system in my car. all i need is some subs and amp. I have heard that 2 truck style boxed will fit in the hatch, but i need to know more opinions.
Thanks.

Try doing a search. There's at least a hundred posts where everybody shows their setup.

just build a custom box not really that hard

Only took me 2 days to build the box and wire up everything....not hard at all. A table saw really helps though.

Thats what i was thinking about doing, i would just need the deminsions.

It hard to get anything in our cars. I need some sort of a trunk area and just have a 6x9 box in the rear. that only take up half the depth. Plenty of room for junk. My amp resides down there also on some 1/2 thick steel plate for a heat sink.

I use to have this box and it just fits under the back window. Buddy had it built which some specs and paid like $200 for it. He gave it to me.

<img src="http://www.viragotech.com/86bird/9.JPG">

I just didn't like it in the window so we used one of the box programs and split it right. So I have one sealed cube and one slotted cube. With the one 12 I'm using now it sound the best with the slotted cube.

It has a plate from a shackle lift kit bolted where the seat would go and then bolted into the box.

I did have it on the other side but like the passenger seat to be able to go down all the way. Makes it easier to do the same thing.

I also don't run the 6x9 inverted anymore. I paid a bundle for them and I had to get an eye full of the chrome I paid for.

Notice that the grey carpet is now black. Did that with some 99 cent spray paint. Works/worked well.

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you painted your carpet with spraypaint?

hopefully he sprayed it with carpet dye and not spray paint........you should also tuck you wires under the carpet.....it will look better

i like the custom steering wheel clock!

You'll have to wait for all the pics to load.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=189093

Mock all you want but yes it spray paint. Works great on the plastic fiber. I tested it on small pieces for wear and feel. It felt like regular carpet, didn't rub off and looks better then the nasty grey it was.

I not sure a dye would even work. You can't dye plastic fiber???
You have to paint it in some fashion. Cloth can be dyed.

Gumby i have the same gray carpet you had, when i got my car the carpet was like brown it was so dirty. I tried everything to get it clean, finaly i tried this stuff 409 with oxy magic i sprayed it on let it sit for a minute and wiped it. It got my carpet looking like new. I even sprayed it on a part of my seat that looked like it had no soil or anything on it and when i wiped it the towel i was using was dark brown and the seat was even cleaner. Obviously its not needed for your carpet now but if you ever see this stuff in the supermarket give it a try.

yeah, really need to do something about the wires. why put the 6x9s in the well when you have a perfectly good stock 6x9 spot?

I have 3 sets of 6x9s, two in the dash, two in the side pods and two in the back. And the 1 sub.

The front and side pods run off the radio and the rear set and sub run off a 1200w amp on the sub/out channel.

Besides all that it sounds great. Everyone is amazed when they hear my system. Epically when all I do is play 128k MP3's. Trust me my audiophile friend who will spend 3/4 of ever song tuning his system for just that song is amazed at what I put together.

I can jam with the best of em.

I like being able to see my wires. No one sits back there and if hiding the wires would get me more action, I'm not sure I could take it.

Looks kinda ghetto and basically falls into the stereotype appearence for our cars....but if you like it, that is all that matters. I prefer to have clean setup with wires hidden and boxes that fit nice and neat. I would like to hear that beast of a setup in person though...... How did you get 6x9s in the dash??? Hopefully you did not cut out the dash grills and have the speakers just sitting in there.

Later

Pics of my setup from start to now

#1. This is a pic taken with regular camera---Notice the dreaded Nitrous bottle. Reason for the new engine The set up is 2 JL 10s with a Coustic 300 pushing them and a Coustic 175 on the highs (Pioneer 6x9s and stock dashies). Coustic crossover for the lows.

#2. 2 Eclipse 10s w/ Sony 800W 4 channel amp pushing them (bridged each side) and a Sony 444 4 channel amp on highs (Infinity 6x9s and JL dashies)

#3. The amps from the forementioned setup (except for the matching Sony 800W amp on highs

#4. I know that there is no more than three pics, but I have to show this last one....... My previous setup of Amps, just moved to the deck and added a Sirius Sat. tuner to the mix. I had to make way for the two Infinity 12s and custom sub box to go into the well. Will update asap with subs installed

Well you can read more in this thread.

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=215499 Transam front speakers


But basically you gotta do some hack work under the dash to get some 6x9s in there. Gotta remove some duct work and I even had to cut into my gauge cluster for magnet clearance. But once the dash pad is back on it all looks stock but sounds much better.

My car is more utility than flash. I Can't go anywhere without a good small floor jack n 4 way, always got some tools with me and other gear. My car is more of a truck. From the front seat forward is all that matters.

I have 2 amps, 2 6x9's and a 10" sub, my power wire is 4 gauge. If you look into my car you can not see anything, no power wire, no amps, not even the radio(well kinda, i have one of those flip black screen kenwoods)And no i dont have a rear privacy shade to cover the amps and no my rear window isnt tinted. Its just a clean install. But hey to each his own i guess.

"basically falls into the stereotype appearance for our cars"

I think the typical stereotype is the guy in the bestbuy commercial in his izod shirt telling everyone to put a V8 in it. Or the muscle bound Italian in his IROC with more in gold around his neck then mods. Or the guy with a bent rod who gets his car painted first before he fixes the engine.

I really want nothing to do with the typical 3rd gen owner look, 95% of all of them are A-holes.

Here is your typical stereotype 3rd gen owner.

You are right about that, i noticed that as soon as some people buy a 3rd gen they get assholism, i dont know why, its not like 3rd gens are hundred thousand dollar cars

Yep, I keep everything mostly hidden too. Everything in the back is covered by a lose wolven steelers throw. I never brag or ever really tell anyone what I have. Only a few friend has even heard how loud my **** can really go. I never go above 18-20 in my own neighbor hood to keep the sticky fingers away.
But the short run of wire form the console to the back and the 12 sitting behind me is about all thats visible. Everything else is hidden out of sight.

Also every time I have had problems with my system, its been wiring. And after I tore out the insides and put it all back together I decided to leave them exposed for that short run. I hate having a back seat and the speaker fit nice in its spot. If it wasn't there Id have to haul more people. As it is now someone always wants to sit in the other side in the floor hole.

I need to remove it all and build it flat or put a roil bar in the way. Its had to keep it a two person car.

Gumby are you being serious about how "great" you system is? Im sorry but that has to be the most half assed set up i have ever seen. When you say you only listen to 128Kb MP3s, i hope you know that that isent even cd quality sound! Id like to hear what kind of equiptment your running in your car. Im not sayin that my system is any great SQ car....but im pretty sure you cant "run" with what most people have on this site.

Well yea its lower than CD quality. My system is set up so I can play just MP3's and have it sound kick ***.But still it is just a MP3.

I also have a nice radio [DEH-P4000] with so many settings and tweaks you need the book.

Id say its harder to build a good MP3 system than a clear competition system. Some products are too good.

I am not talking about steretype for the people.......just the cars. 95% of the third gens out there should be introduced to a car crusher. Faded worn paint, dented front fender, cracked rear glass, underhood looks like a home for a rat, torn seats, cracked dashpad etc.etc.etc.

It makes me sick when I see one on the road and it is in BAD shape. If you do not want to fix it or keep it in good running condition........hate to say this.......GO BUY A HONDA!!!!!

just my .02 on the matter

Thats a little extreme. Why crush good cars??? A bad looking 3rd gen is only 1 new owner away from being restored. Now maybe we could only allow certain people to buy these cars but don't punish the car cause of a cheap owner.


Thats 3rd genocide.

When you say MP3 system do you mean you have a harddrive and soundcard and all those goodies or just a reciever that plays MP3? cause if its just an MP3 cd player then what makes it different than my cd player....other than you can put a **** ton more songs on a cd? and why do you think that some products are to good?

Agreed.

Honestly. There is no more difference between a stereo with CDs as the source and a stereo with MP3s as a source than there is a stereo with a tape deck as a source to one with CDs as a source.

Especially if you have the MP3s at such a low bitrate.

I don't mean to burst your bubble there, but most head units nowadays have many many options. Alot of the time, the manual is needed

I am glad you are as happy with your system as you are. Hope it does whatever you expect it to do.

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i'm with the people who like a "stealth" setup. i have two amps, a 3-way set of components, a setup of 6 1/2" in the 6x9 spot, a deck, and a 12" sub and the only thing you may see when the car is parked is the comps. i have the custom metra HU kit that flush mounts the deck (JVC SH909, awesome deck) and i built a dummy face off an old dead stock deck. the amps are inside the rear seat and although there's plexi to show them off, its covered when the seat is up. the sub box is flush with the bottom half of the well and (although ghetto-ish) covered by a blanket or towel. want to pick up a locking hatch cover, but no money in the budget at the time. also working on a ported box, so the cover would no longer fit, although this box would be carpeted flush with the top of the well. no wires anywhere.

onto the mp3 thing. my deck does mp3s, and very well at that. i prefer VBR mp3s because they are 99% accurate to the cd, while not having too big of a size (usually able to fit 8 or 9 albums on one disc). 128 mp3s only really sound good on cheap pc speakers or headphones. as soon as you introduce them into a decent environment, their shortcoming become very apparent. cymbols sound like trash due to the sampling, sound artifact can be heard (sometimes very loud). none of these sound good. since they are there and not going away, all that tuning a system to these is doing is masking them and muddying the sound.

I especially like the guys with leaves under the hood. I am just like the other guys that drive third gens as beaters, that look like beaters, its horrible, because some of the guys don't even change the oil or anything. They just beat the hell out of them. I'm going to be driving my 87 iroc-z every day after the winter is over, but I'm going to take good care of it, and have a great stereo, have it run low 14's and look mostly stock. I agree with many of you on this post, that alot of third gens are in horrible shape and shoot be put out of there misery, and if they were in good shape, and taken care of they, shouldn't need to be restored. My dads 68 GTO was taken well care of, and it doesn't need to be restored.

Classic case of "3rd gen assholism"

Because I say and know my system sounds good I have offended him some how and now must engage in a pissing contest to prove it???

Like I care what you think or believe. This is the problem with the
"3rd gen assholism" they are player haters through n through.

"I don't think what you said is true, my car is better, prove your system sounds good"

If my word isn't good enough for ya. so be it. You are not part of the crowd I want to please.



P.S. I said the car was recently worked on and a mess in that pic, leaves n garbage all over the engine bay form the hood being off. My car is half way painted primer and slowly being re-done.

Not directing this towards any one person, but what you said is very true. Seems like 3rd gen owners like to talk sh*t about other 3rd gen owners cars. Its either, Oh yeah but its a v6. Or yeah but those rims suck, or how bout when you have a engine problem and your motor is a v6, everyone says "drop a v8 in it" , or "yeah but you have a dent! <~~ All sh*t i've seen said on here. Seems like everyone thinks their car is better than anyone elses.

Also if you don't have alot of money to dump into the car, doing it slowly still shows promise. I Have two thirdgens, and I don't talk about whos is better or worse than myne. I've worked on 9 or 10 third gens already, a few look better than myne, run like myne or worse, but none of the ones I have delt with run better than myne. I don't mean anyone on this board either, just guys in person. We all have these cars for different reasons, and what people say about them or yours or myne, is strictly opinions. I mean we didn't buy our cars because someone else liked them, we bought them because we liked them.

I mean we didn't buy our cars because someone else liked them, we bought them because we liked them.
Bout time this dude said something i can agree with him on.

thanks man, but I still stand my ground, and dayton subs aren't crappy, they still pound and last, KEITH.

they still will not compare to a brahma or a re

dayton titanics and adire tempest are good subs for the money you do have a point. But there are soo many better speakers out to suit anyones needs

I really feel bad for the 4cyl owners. They don't get any respect.

I have no idea what is it but 3rd gen's are not a buddy buddy kind of car brand for some reason.

Its the players haters club. We should elect hater of the year.

I have a V8 car, I have owned a 80 V8 camaro and wouldn't trade anything for my 86 2.8 T5 Bird. Its a pleasure to drive. If one more #$%# off says put a V8 in it when I ask a simple question, I'll go postal.

I keep thinking we need an entire forum of our own but the other ones out there suck. We need to make everyone with a 6 here a mod to make it interesting.

Anyone who says "put a V8 in it" gets banned.

I hate going off.

Guy through together a nice turbo on his 2.8 for $100 on donated parts and a lone gun out of no where come in the V6 section hating on his just wonderful back yard mechanic work.

Like a credit card and a summit catalog makes you a super tuner.

I get enough crap from my audiophile buddy. He didn't like anything I bought or did but the ends results shut him up.

Gumbie.....i wasent tryin to be an ***....i was just wondering if thats what you had for a setup cause ive been thinkin about building a computer/MP3 player for my car.... sorry for the mix up

Yeah thanks boomin boy, I ordered two titanic mark II 12's and I'm looking for an amp right now, I want to run at least 600 watts rms each or more into 4 ohms for my iroc "sounds" project. Any reccomendations. Because when Dayton tested them, at 500 watts rms, they put out 115 dbs and never exceeded xmaxx and stayed linear, so I know they will handle more power, and I want to put that 18mm of xmaxx to use.

JBL 1200.1 will give you 1300 watts into 1 or 2 ohms with a good electrical system...im not sure if the subs will handle that much all day though, its only a 2 inch VC

I'd have a problem getting down to 1 ohm though. I am going to build the box with a divider, so I want to run 600 rms into 4ohms for each sub, I'll handle the electrical system during the install, respond to the rest under my post with my titanic on it. thanks